S.B.G
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It's always a good idea to update the firmware as they're designed to improve performance and correct known bugs.
It really isn't a hassle, as the update takes only a couple of minutes.
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The Samsung 840/840 Pro SSD thread
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It's always a good idea to update the firmware as they're designed to improve performance and correct known bugs.
It really isn't a hassle, as the update takes only a couple of minutes.
jjk454ss
macrumors 601
So a USB optical drive wont work? What about a USB Thumb Drive? I only figured it was a little bit of a hassle because I dont run Windows on my machine and don't have an internal optical drive.
S.B.G
Moderator emeritus
I can't rule that out as a possibility, but I am not aware of a way to do it.
**** able to initialize the 840 in the optical bay but the 840 pro it failed to initialize in the OS bay. Nor will my t bolt devices turn on . External monitor and my Pegasus . So putting a OS now on a partition I created for the 840. Actually 2 partition one OS and one storage. Ill boot from the backup OS from the 840 and see if I can get the Pro to initialize . I had this issue with a OWC SSD drive awhile back.
I did burn the firmware update on the 840 pro before I started but I have a external cd drive. Not sure I can boot from it reading these posts
I tried, and failed, to mount anything successfully for purposes of this upgrade. I went as far as command line, which if the drive is installed internally on the SATA bus, works fine. But being connected to the USB bus, I finally decided I had better ways to spend my time 🙂
I tried USB-optical = fail
I tried USB-dongle = fail
I tried firewire SSD = fail
See above.
chmodme
S.B.G
Moderator emeritus
I tried first to boot to an external to load the firmware on my 840, but it didn't work for me either. I had to use the internal SuperDrive to get it to work.
That's not good. I got my tbolt stuff going now ill boot from my OS internal back and see if I can get the pro to initialize . Pita
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Internal backup
Sorry iPhone typing
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Internal backup
Sorry iPhone typing
Thanks, Hellhammer. Here are my results for 3 and 32 threads, 4K random, respectively. Are they okay?
DiskTester 2.2 64-bit, diglloydTools 2.2.0, 2012-12-15 18:05
OS X 10.6.8, 8 CPU cores, 8192MB memory
Capacity GB: 466.07
Free space GB: 261.29
Simultaneous I/O threads: 3
Transfer size per I/O: 4K
Number of transfers (per thread): 131072
Test file size per thread: 32GB
Gap size (spacing): 0B
Total space required: 96GB
Aggregate I/O size: 1.50GB
File system unified buffer cache: DISABLED (default)
Test type: RANDOM
Writing 3 simultaneous streams...OS X 10.6.8, 8 CPU cores, 8192MB memory
Capacity GB: 466.07
Free space GB: 261.29
Simultaneous I/O threads: 3
Transfer size per I/O: 4K
Number of transfers (per thread): 131072
Test file size per thread: 32GB
Gap size (spacing): 0B
Total space required: 96GB
Aggregate I/O size: 1.50GB
File system unified buffer cache: DISABLED (default)
Test type: RANDOM
Code:
MB Write MB/sec Write ops/sec
53 9.0 2295.0
77 6.5 1664.1
96 5.4 1373.4
112 4.7 1197.2
125 4.2 1071.9
137 3.8 978.6
148 3.5 905.5
158 3.3 846.3
167 3.1 796.5
176 2.9 753.3
184 2.8 717.0
192 2.7 683.1
198 2.6 653.2
205 2.5 627.9
212 2.4 605.0
218 2.3 584.2
224 2.2 564.7
230 2.1 546.0
236 2.1 530.4
241 2.0 516.2
247 2.0 502.9
252 1.9 490.6
[...]
1533 0.4 97.8
1535 0.4 97.8
1536 0.4 97.8
Code:
MB Read MB/sec Read ops/sec
3 0.6 141.1
6 0.5 137.2
9 0.5 139.8
13 0.5 140.5
16 0.6 141.0
19 0.5 139.7
22 0.5 139.2
25 0.5 138.2
28 0.5 136.9
31 0.5 136.1
34 0.5 135.6
38 0.5 135.4
41 0.5 135.3
44 0.5 134.4
46 0.5 133.5
49 0.5 133.2
[...]
1530 0.5 130.1
1533 0.5 130.1
1536 0.5 130.1Simultaneous I/O threads: 32
Transfer size per I/O: 4K
Number of transfers (per thread): 4096
Test file size per thread: 1GB
Gap size (spacing): 0B
Total space required: 32GB
Aggregate I/O size: 512MB
Test type: RANDOM
Transfer size per I/O: 4K
Number of transfers (per thread): 4096
Test file size per thread: 1GB
Gap size (spacing): 0B
Total space required: 32GB
Aggregate I/O size: 512MB
Test type: RANDOM
Writing 32 simultaneous streams...
Code:
MB Write MB/sec Write ops/sec
59 0.9 240.1
88 0.7 177.6
110 0.6 147.9
129 0.5 129.4
145 0.5 116.5
160 0.4 107.0
174 0.4 99.6
187 0.4 93.8
200 0.3 89.1
212 0.3 85.0
224 0.3 81.5
235 0.3 78.6
246 0.3 76.0
[...]
497 0.2 53.8
508 0.2 53.5
512 0.2 53.4Reading 32 simultaneous streams...
Code:
MB Read MB/sec Read ops/sec
13 0.2 55.8
27 0.2 55.4
41 0.2 55.5
55 0.2 55.7
69 0.2 55.7
83 0.2 55.7
97 0.2 55.6
111 0.2 55.6
124 0.2 55.6
138 0.2 55.5
151 0.2 55.2
165 0.2 55.1
178 0.2 55.1
192 0.2 55.1
206 0.2 55.0
220 0.2 55.0
233 0.2 54.9
246 0.2 54.8
[...]
479 0.2 53.3
491 0.2 53.1
502 0.2 52.9
512 0.2 52.9Write 512MB in seconds: 76.7
Read 512MB in seconds: 77.4
Aggregate write rate MB/sec: 6.7
Aggregate read rate MB/sec: 6.6
Write ops/sec: 1709
Read ops/sec: 1692
kcrossley
macrumors regular
So, what's the solution to upgrading the Samsung 840 Pro firmware? Can you simply put the firmware onto a CD and boot from that or do you need to have Windows installed?
On another note, have any of you noticed Bluetooth issues after upgrading and especially if using the OWC Data Doubler?
On another note, have any of you noticed Bluetooth issues after upgrading and especially if using the OWC Data Doubler?
Bluetooth is fine with the OWC data double.
Still no love on initializing the Pro. May pull it out stick in a external , load OS on it than reinstall.
Still no love on initializing the Pro. May pull it out stick in a external , load OS on it than reinstall.
kcrossley
macrumors regular
Then I wonder what happened to me, because after upgrading my Bluetooth connectivity sucks. My Apple Wireless Keyboard keeps connecting and disconnecting and keystrokes are laggy. Not sure what to do.
hfg
macrumors 68040
I think I have been through the same sequence with trying to boot anything other than OS X on my late 2011 Macbook Pro with the SuperDrive removed and connected externally via USB. This has included Windows 7 and 8 install, Crucial SSD firmware update, and Samsung SSD firmware updates.
Each time I had to resort to reinstalling the optical SuperDrive back into the Macbook Pro to accomplish the necessary boot sequence. This has resulted in my current thinking of just leaving the optical drive internal to the computer for now with a large SSD.
I had been enjoying a "Fusion" setup with both Windows and OS X partitions on the SSD and joining it to the original 750GB 7200rpm hard disks in an optibay. But the occasional need for the optical drive to be reinstalled made having a tightly coupled Fusion drive impossible to maintain, so I split it back into a separate standalone SSD and this made the secondary hard disk logically easy to remove to utilize the optical drive as necessary. My need most recently was to reluctantly swap a 256GB 840 Pro back to a 512GB Crucial M4. I paused half-way through the process to update the Samsung firmware after reinstalling the optical drive, and before swapping the SSD for a larger one.
I sure wish I could find a solution for booting external "DOS based" CD disks from the Macbook Pro with an external optical drive!
-howard
Okay pulled Pro out of Mac put in external and able to initialize . Yahoo
Cloning OS to it than install. Ill check firmware when all done and guess I should do trim enabler as well
Cloning OS to it than install. Ill check firmware when all done and guess I should do trim enabler as well
S.B.G
Moderator emeritus
You don't need to put Windows on the Mac in order to upgrade the firmware. Here is the link to the OS X firmware update page at Samsung.
Download the appropriate ISO, burn it to disc and then restart the Mac holding down the Option button and then choose to boot to the CD/DVD drive and follow the on screen instructions.
kcrossley
macrumors regular
So is there anyway to do the upgrade with an Apple External Superdrive? I just tried and my MacBook Pro didn't recognize the AES.
Also, what happens if I update the firmware with software on the drive? Is it better to clone everything to another drive, then perform the firmware upgrade?
Thanks!
S.B.G
Moderator emeritus
So far not that I've heard of.
I updated the firmware with all my stuff on it and had no problem at all.
dukebound85
macrumors Core
Doesn't seem like it
Seems you need an internal optical drive for this.
Not sure why an apple external would make it any different in this regard as it is still USB mounted.
S.B.G
Moderator emeritus
I use the Doubler, and had to deinstall it to reinstall the optical - so I could do the upgrade. Once reinstalled it works like it did previously.
I don't know the vintage of your computer, and I don't recall if it's a MBP? But they (the MBP) do differ in terms of how the little bluetooth module attaches, etc.
First thing I think of is double check the tiny little wires and connections? And there are little shield pieces to prevent shorting to the aluminum case, etc.....again, assuming it is a MBP?
chmodme
kcrossley
macrumors regular
Thanks for the post. Yes, it's a 2012 MBP. I'll need to crack it open to check everything again. I don't recall any kind of shielding though. I really am not looking forward to reinstalling the optical drive. 🙁
More fiddling = higher risk of breaking something
I know exactly what you are saying. This little Friday doing BS has resulted in my thinking about the options - suck it up and get the 840 512 Pro and reinstall the optical drive.
Costly thinking.... 🙂
chmodme
kcrossley
macrumors regular
The problem for me is that while I have no problem with the OS and apps being on the SSD, I just don't trust the SSD with my data, which is why I prefer the dual setup.
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I hacked my external Superdrive with this little jewel, but unfortunately the drive is not bootable 🙁 Why does Apple do this stuff?
http://apple.stackexchange.com/ques...-appear-identical-to-internal-superdrive?rq=1