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The problem for me is that while I have no problem with the OS and apps being on the SSD, I just don't trust the SSD with my data, which is why I prefer the dual setup.

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What is not to trust with the SSD assuming you have backups? I use CCC and TimeMachine in unison.

chmodme
 
So my 840 Pro 512 gb unit is up to date on firmware. This is my OS drive so I do care about that.

The 840 500gb drive is in the optical bay and firmware is not up to date its
DXT06B0Q instead of DXT07B0Q

Im not going to worry about that drive as its storage and OS backup
 
The problem for me is that while I have no problem with the OS and apps being on the SSD, I just don't trust the SSD with my data, which is why I prefer the dual setup.

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What is not to trust with the SSD assuming you have backups? I use CCC and TimeMachine in unison.

chmodme


The only problem is the 500GB is mucho $$$$'s.

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So my 840 Pro 512 gb unit is up to date on firmware. This is my OS drive so I do care about that.

The 840 500gb drive is in the optical bay and firmware is not up to date its
DXT06B0Q instead of DXT07B0Q

Im not going to worry about that drive as its storage and OS backup

The optical drive bay is only 3Gb/s, whereas the hard drive bay is 6Gb/s. I would get a Data Doubler.
 
I got mine (with mounting kit) for $375 a few weeks ago with Amazon Prime. Newegg is selling them for $299 right now, 25% off.

That's why I hate technology. BTW, that price is probably for the 840 regular, not the 840 Pro. BIG difference in terms of write speeds.
 
The problem for me is that while I have no problem with the OS and apps being on the SSD, I just don't trust the SSD with my data, which is why I prefer the dual setup.

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I hacked my external Superdrive with this little jewel, but unfortunately the drive is not bootable :( Why does Apple do this stuff?

http://apple.stackexchange.com/ques...-appear-identical-to-internal-superdrive?rq=1

Why not just keep a time machine backup then on a traditional hdd?

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The problem for me is that while I have no problem with the OS and apps being on the SSD, I just don't trust the SSD with my data, which is why I prefer the dual setup.

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What is not to trust with the SSD assuming you have backups? I use CCC and TimeMachine in unison.

chmodme


exactly. Same here with my current set up. I use TM and CCC concurrently with my main drive

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I got mine (with mounting kit) for $375 a few weeks ago with Amazon Prime. Newegg is selling them for $299 right now, 25% off.

amazon is at 279.99 fyi for the 500gig 840 non pro
 
The only problem is the 500GB is mucho $$$$'s.

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The optical drive bay is only 3Gb/s, whereas the hard drive bay is 6Gb/s. I would get a Data Doubler.

Not exactly true. Mine is 6g in the optical bay and 6g in the hard drive. Link speed is 6g in both drives. Its way I upgraded from the 2011 model to the 2012 as reports came in they changed the link speed in the optical

Black Magic test
840 Pro reads 515 writes 481

840 512 reads 305 writes

Pro
Vendor: Intel
Product: 7 Series Chipset
Link Speed: 6 Gigabit
Negotiated Link Speed: 6 Gigabit
Description: AHCI Version 1.30 Supported

Samsung SSD 840 PRO Series:

Capacity: 512.11 GB (512,110,190,592 bytes)
Model: Samsung SSD 840 PRO Series

840 in optical

Vendor: Intel
Product: 7 Series Chipset
Link Speed: 6 Gigabit
Negotiated Link Speed: 6 Gigabit
Description: AHCI Version 1.30 Supported

Samsung SSD 840 Series:

Capacity: 500.11 GB (500,107,862,016 bytes)
Model: Samsung SSD 840 Series
 
Not exactly true. Mine is 6g in the optical bay and 6g in the hard drive. Link speed is 6g in both drives. Its way I upgraded from the 2011 model to the 2012 as reports came in they changed the link speed in the optical

Black Magic test
840 Pro reads 515 writes 481

840 512 reads 305 writes

Pro
Vendor: Intel
Product: 7 Series Chipset
Link Speed: 6 Gigabit
Negotiated Link Speed: 6 Gigabit
Description: AHCI Version 1.30 Supported

Samsung SSD 840 PRO Series:

Capacity: 512.11 GB (512,110,190,592 bytes)
Model: Samsung SSD 840 PRO Series

840 in optical

Vendor: Intel
Product: 7 Series Chipset
Link Speed: 6 Gigabit
Negotiated Link Speed: 6 Gigabit
Description: AHCI Version 1.30 Supported

Samsung SSD 840 Series:

Capacity: 500.11 GB (500,107,862,016 bytes)
Model: Samsung SSD 840 Series

Really? Then I was misinformed. Maybe I'll switch mine to cut down on the hard drive interference that's affecting my Bluetooth.
 
Okay, I pulled the 840 Pro out of my MBP and it's currently connected to my son's MacBook via a USB cable and a NexStar Hard Drive Dock. I'm running Windows 8 with Parallels and I was able to find the drive and launch Samsung Magician, which sees the drive but won't let me update the firmware.

Is that because the drive is formatted for OS X?

Where do I go from here?
 
Okay, I'm spent for the night. I couldn't get the firmware update to work using Samsung Magician, so I'm not sure what's going on. SM saw the drive, but it had no volumes, so none of the features would work.

I tried reseating the ribbon cables so I'll try testing the Bluetooth performance in a few minutes. Until then, I've got my trust Mac extended keyboard hooked up via USB.
 
I just installed Parallels 8 and Windows 8 on my MacBook Pro 9,1 and while Samsung Magician works under this configuration it can't locate my Samsung SSD, which Windows thinks is a network drive.

Is there anyway I can use Parallels 8 to perform the firmware upgrade? If not, is there a DOS mode in Windows 8, which will allow me to upload the firmware via an .ISO file?
 
I just installed Parallels 8 and Windows 8 on my MacBook Pro 9,1 and while Samsung Magician works under this configuration it can't locate my Samsung SSD, which Windows thinks is a network drive.

Is there anyway I can use Parallels 8 to perform the firmware upgrade? If not, is there a DOS mode in Windows 8, which will allow me to upload the firmware via an .ISO file?

If you can't get the bootable image from Samsung to work, I found that creating a temporary Boot Camp installation worked for me. But I never could get Parallels to see the SSD.
 
For people having trouble updating to the latest firmware. Go to Startup Disk and select your DVD that you burned. Then press the restart button under Startup Disk. Then your computer restarts and firmware update starts :)

My DVD wasn't recognised when i pressed the Option button during regular startup, but this worked for me.
 
For 20 quids more, get the 250GB. You can never have too much space and you shouldn't fill the SSD to the top (based on our own tests, having ~25% free space is optimal from a performance standpoint).
I'm looking into getting a 500 GB Samsung 840, but I'm curious about something. I've cleared a lot of data off of my current drive but have 112 GB in "backups" data. My Time Machine drive is connected and runs regularly, so I'm not really sure why this is so large... regardless, it's a lot of space to occupy. Finder doesn't acknowledge it (since it views it as data that can be written over if necessary), but that would be occupying space on the SSD. Is this an issue that other SSD owners have to work around? Other than increasing my disk cloning time, is it anything to be concerned over?

Another question: TrimEnabler seems to be the default that people are using, but someone mentioned Chameleon SSD Optimizer. Any thoughts on it?

Is there anyway I can use Parallels 8 to perform the firmware upgrade? If not, is there a DOS mode in Windows 8, which will allow me to upload the firmware via an .ISO file?
Not as far as I know. Virtual machines don't have direct access to the hardware that they're running on ("virtual" machine), which is critical to updating the firmware.
 
Upgrading the firmware wouldn't be so ridiculous if Samsung wasn't Apple's supplier of choice for SSDs. I think someone said Samsung is working on a Mac OSX installer. I think I'll just wait for that to happen.
 
Upgrading the firmware wouldn't be so ridiculous if Samsung wasn't Apple's supplier of choice for SSDs. I think someone said Samsung is working on a Mac OSX installer. I think I'll just wait for that to happen.

There was a lot of back and forth going on yesterday among several of us, and I can't remember your situation specifically. But, did you download the OS X version of the firmware and try to update it?
 
There was a lot of back and forth going on yesterday among several of us, and I can't remember your situation specifically. But, did you download the OS X version of the firmware and try to update it?

I did, but I couldn't get it to boot from the external Apple Superdrive, because Apple doesn't allow you to boot from an external optical disc drive, for whatever reason. I could put it on a USB thumb drive, but I don't think you can boot from that either.

I tried installing Parallels and Windows 8 (because I needed to anyway) and that would have worked, but the Samsung magician can't find network drives, so I got tired of messing with it. :)
 
I did, but I couldn't get it to boot from the external Apple Superdrive, because Apple doesn't allow you to boot from an external optical disc drive, for whatever reason. I could put it on a USB thumb drive, but I don't think you can boot from that either.

I tried installing Parallels and Windows 8 (because I needed to anyway) and that would have worked, but the Samsung magician can't find network drives, so I got tired of messing with it. :)

What about putting the SuperDrive back in (this is a MBP right)?

What I am seeing is that you have to have the CD on the main SATA bus of the computer to be able to update it; anything else won't work.
 
What about putting the SuperDrive back in (this is a MBP right)?

What I am seeing is that you have to have the CD on the main SATA bus of the computer to be able to update it; anything else won't work.

I might try that later. Every time I crack my MacBook open it's like rolling the dice in terms of breaking something. :)
 
Access time & small files

The boot time with SATA III and SATA II is virtually identical. And in general, the application of load will not faster with SATA III than SATA II. The boot time and the application load, we can probably see a slight difference in the benchs but not really in a real use.
 
A request!

Kindly post the following info

1) Screen grab of BlackMagic Design's Disk Speed Test of your original HDD (before) and Samsung 840/840 Pro SSD (after)

2) Hardware overview from "System Information" namely
- Screen Size and Model Year
- Model Identifier
- Processor Name
- Processor Speed
- Memory
- Bus Speed
- Serial-ATA's Link Speed & Negotiated Link Speed
- TRIM: On/Off
- OS X version

4) Info on the Samsung SSD.
- Capacity
- 840 or 840 Pro
- Disk bay installed: Main or Superdrive bay
- Firmware version

3) Other noteable modifications like RAID 0, battery life (with HDD and with SSD) etc.
 
It's a shame Apple hates Samsung because I really love Samsung products :D

That Samsung SSD looks really good when you open the backplate of my MBP and the performance is amazing. I think the 2013 rMBP boots slower than my current MBP based on my impressions in the Apple store because my SSD is faster.
 
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