The Samsung 840/840 Pro SSD thread

[S.B.G]

It's the same exact thing for pretty much any kind of drive... including hard drives. The way you phrased it (to me) seemed like you meant this behavior was unique to SSDs. If that isn't the case, I take back what I said.

No I didn't mean it in the context of SSD's alone. I was only trying to be a help to him in a generic way which wasn't too technical for him. I didn't want to bog him down with a lot of technical details that weren't necessary for him to accomplish his goal.

Apologies if I wasn't clear in my writings.

 

[thegoldenguy]

No I didn't mean it in the context of SSD's alone. I was only trying to be a help to him in a generic way which wasn't too technical for him. I didn't want to bog him down with a lot of technical details that weren't necessary for him to accomplish his goal.

Apologies if I wasn't clear in my writings.

To All, Free and clear. Happy Happy. And I understood you quite well.
Once my PCI-e Card comes in for the SSD I will post the results of the speeds.

Thanx again.

 

[SnowLeopard2008]

No I didn't mean it in the context of SSD's alone. I was only trying to be a help to him in a generic way which wasn't too technical for him. I didn't want to bog him down with a lot of technical details that weren't necessary for him to accomplish his goal.

Apologies if I wasn't clear in my writings.

Gotcha. I take back what I said.

 

[Ricanlegend]

Help me out on this. Where do I find the info.

the info is on the link speed your is only 3gigabit you need 6 gigabit for sata3

 

[daneoni]

I know this isn't the 830 thread but i dont wanna revive an old thread. Which do you guys think is better, the 830 or the M500? 512 vs 480?

 

[S.B.G]

I know this isn't the 830 thread but i dont wanna revive an old thread. Which do you guys think is better, the 830 or the M500? 512 vs 480?

I have an 830 and an 840 but cannot comment on on the others. I believe the 830 has a more durable NAND than the 840, but is now at EoL. As for performance I think they're both very close to each other in specs.

I can't really see which performs better myself because the 830 is in a MBP on SATA3 while the 840 is in an iMac with SATA2. That means the MBP with 830 is faster than the iMac with the 840.

 

[daneoni]

I have an 830 and an 840 but cannot comment on on the others. I believe the 830 has a more durable NAND than the 840, but is now at EoL. As for performance I think they're both very close to each other in specs.

I can't really see which performs better myself because the 830 is in a MBP on SATA3 while the 840 is in an iMac with SATA2. That means the MBP with 830 is faster than the iMac with the 840.

I see. Thanks.

 

[paul-n]

The feeled performance of both drives should be more or less the same. The 830 is EOL but known for pretty good reliability, which is really important I would go with the 830 or the 840 Pro.

 

[jwjsr]

That won't be so easy with a 3.5" hard drive. But you can always replace it with a HGST 2.5 1TB 7200RPM drive and use a 3.5" adapter for the SSD.

What does the System Information say about the link speed of the drive?



You can copy the iso onto a USB flash drive via Disk Utility's Restore tab.

I need step by step please.

What format for usb stick?

what exactly do i select for "destination" and "source".

for some reason(because I am dumb) i cannot attach a screenshot> but my choices for destination are:

samsung_ssd_840_dxt...
dxt07boq
btdsk.img
fdoem

source choices are:
64.02 gb generic usb s..
disk6s2


What specifically do you do after you think you have used restore to copy the iso file to the usb stick?




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[MarceFX]

Hi,

I'm getting a new MBP 13" from the Apple Store. I plan to upgrade it with 16 GB of RAM and a Samsung 840 (non-pro) 512 SSD drive, I will keep the Superdrive.

Anything I need to have into consideration? I know the Pro version is awesome, but it's also way more expensive and can't afford it.

Thanks!

 

[S.B.G]

Hi,

I'm getting a new MBP 13" from the Apple Store. I plan to upgrade it with 16 GB of RAM and a Samsung 840 (non-pro) 512 SSD drive, I will keep the Superdrive.

Anything I need to have into consideration? I know the Pro version is awesome, but it's also way more expensive and can't afford it.

Thanks!

As long as you know what you're doing, and it sounds like you may, there isn't too much to worry about. If you need guidance, feel free to ask questions here or visit the very handy guide at iFixit.com.

http://www.ifixit.com/Device/MacBook_Pro_13"_Unibody_Mid_2012

If you need to update the firmware, you can do it via OS X by downloading it here: http://www.samsung.com/global/business/semiconductor/samsungssd/downloads.html

Good luck!

EDIT: Thanks to dukebound85 for the reminder, here is the TRIM enabler Chameleon SSD Optimizer which you will need.

 

[dukebound85]

Hi,

I'm getting a new MBP 13" from the Apple Store. I plan to upgrade it with 16 GB of RAM and a Samsung 840 (non-pro) 512 SSD drive, I will keep the Superdrive.

Anything I need to have into consideration? I know the Pro version is awesome, but it's also way more expensive and can't afford it.

Thanks!

that is my exact setup and nothing much beyond just installing it.

As mentioned in this thread, just use a tool like chamelon to manage the ssd

 

[DougFNJ]

Hi,

I'm getting a new MBP 13" from the Apple Store. I plan to upgrade it with 16 GB of RAM and a Samsung 840 (non-pro) 512 SSD drive, I will keep the Superdrive.

Anything I need to have into consideration? I know the Pro version is awesome, but it's also way more expensive and can't afford it.

Thanks!

This is the same setup I use and this machine is blazing fast, you will love it.

 

[sick z33]

I need to upgrade my old iMac with one of these

 

[sniper29a]

2011 Early MBP 17"
16GB (2x8GB) Corsair Mac Memory
SSD Samsung 840 Pro 512GB
HDD original Apple/Hitachi 700GB/5400rpm

I have cloned Mac OS X partition. So far I had at least 2 crashes/kernel panic. Unsure, whether is that problem of my old installation of Mac OS X. I have made many experiments with this OS.

I will see what happen later on after clean installation.

So far I am quite disappointed. Real performance, despite better than HDD, is pretty poor in Adobe PS 5. I don't see any difference. Boot is faster, no doubt. Copying is also faster, but who cares about 5s faster copy speed. Productivity is my main priority. OS responses are also quicker.

I just don't understand poor performance in PS. Image load same like before. Average file size is 700MB, It suppose to be loaded under 2s. It takes same time like with original HDD.

Any suggestions guys?

 

[akswun]

Ok so after a month and a half my Brand New 840 (250gig) died on me.
I'm running a late 09 MBP (2.53 w/8gRAM) which is SATAII.

Was running great for the month and half I had it. Was running TRIM and never really put the drive through a lot of work. If you call using handbreak or metaX hard work then yes, but no.

What specifically happened is that my mbp is usually on and was working fine. Wanted to use it in my living room to DJ with and when I woke the computer up it was a little slow, then it beach balled on me. Even the beach ball froze. So I did a reset and bam... got the white screen with the folder with the question mark. Did a reset and 'option' key to choose a bootable drive and the 840 wasn't detected.
Removed the 840, reinstalled my old HD and did a reinstall of osX.
So the place I bought my SSD had a limited 1 month warranty. So I was forced to call samsung and am in the process of returning it via UPS. I've read that they're pretty quick with replacements but I hear they send refurbs. GAH!....

So, what did I learn? This drive has known drive failures. But I feel there are too many positives to really bring it down. It worked well but died so not so good.
So for those wanting to buy this drive get the 3yr retailer warranty so you don't have to go through the hassel of contacting Samsung. It's a lot easier getting a NEW drive from your retailer than it is to contact Samsung to get a second hand drive.

 

[mmomega]

Ok so after a month and a half my Brand New 840 (250gig) died on me.
I'm running a late 09 MBP (2.53 w/8gRAM) which is SATAII.

Was running great for the month and half I had it. Was running TRIM and never really put the drive through a lot of work. If you call using handbreak or metaX hard work then yes, but no.

What specifically happened is that my mbp is usually on and was working fine. Wanted to use it in my living room to DJ with and when I woke the computer up it was a little slow, then it beach balled on me. Even the beach ball froze. So I did a reset and bam... got the white screen with the folder with the question mark. Did a reset and 'option' key to choose a bootable drive and the 840 wasn't detected.
Removed the 840, reinstalled my old HD and did a reinstall of osX.
So the place I bought my SSD had a limited 1 month warranty. So I was forced to call samsung and am in the process of returning it via UPS. I've read that they're pretty quick with replacements but I hear they send refurbs. GAH!....

So, what did I learn? This drive has known drive failures. But I feel there are too many positives to really bring it down. It worked well but died so not so good.
So for those wanting to buy this drive get the 3yr retailer warranty so you don't have to go through the hassel of contacting Samsung. It's a lot easier getting a NEW drive from your retailer than it is to contact Samsung to get a second hand drive.

Was this the Pro or non-Pro 840 ?

 

[akswun]

was this the pro or non-pro 840 ?

non-pro

 

[NazgulRR]

Anyone with a 500GB 840 (non-pro) that can say how the drive performs when it is almost full? Does it keep the same performance?

Would be great if someone could post a Blackmagic speed test results from one that has ~50GB free space left .
(And ideally on SATA2 connection as that is what I would be putting it into...)

 

[sniper29a]

Anyone with a 500GB 840 (non-pro) that can say how the drive performs when it is almost full? Does it keep the same performance?

Would be great if someone could post a Blackmagic speed test results from one that has ~50GB free space left .
(And ideally on SATA2 connection as that is what I would be putting it into...)

Why would anyone keep just 50GB free on drive? Is it just test or so?

 

[MarceFX]

As long as you know what you're doing, and it sounds like you may, there isn't too much to worry about. If you need guidance, feel free to ask questions here or visit the very handy guide at iFixit.com.

http://www.ifixit.com/Device/MacBook_Pro_13"_Unibody_Mid_2012

If you need to update the firmware, you can do it via OS X by downloading it here: http://www.samsung.com/global/business/semiconductor/samsungssd/downloads.html

Good luck!

EDIT: Thanks to dukebound85 for the reminder, here is the TRIM enabler Chameleon SSD Optimizer which you will need.

that is my exact setup and nothing much beyond just installing it.

As mentioned in this thread, just use a tool like chamelon to manage the ssd

This is the same setup I use and this machine is blazing fast, you will love it.

Thank you guys! I'm just looking forward to getting my hands on the machine next week

 

[NazgulRR]

Why would anyone keep just 50GB free on drive? Is it just test or so?

Someone that has 450GB of data would...

 

[c17guy]

I'm sure you guys are sick of seeing these questions, but any advice would be greatly appreciated!

Early 2011 Macbook Pro with OS X
Plan: Install 840 Pro 256 GB into main bay, while moving the original HDD to the optical bay (OWC DataDoubler).
Method: As stated above, once both are installed, use Carbon Copy Clone to clone the Mac partition from the original HDD over to the SSD, then make the HDD a storage drive with a Windows Bootcamp partition (which is already installed).

The idea is that I'll switch everything over to the SSD minus pictures, videos, etc. and continue to use the HDD for those purposes. At the same time, having Windows Bootcamp already installed, be able to boot into Windows anytime I need without having to put anything on the SSD in that regards.

Does this sound ok to you guys? I think I have the whole procedure down, but of course, this is also my first time experiencing upgrading my Mac. I'm also going to dl the Trim app many have suggested and also edit the Hibernate mode as well. Anything else I'm missing?

 

[glenthompson]

I'm sure you guys are sick of seeing these questions, but any advice would be greatly appreciated!

Early 2011 Macbook Pro with OS X
Plan: Install 840 Pro 256 GB into main bay, while moving the original HDD to the optical bay (OWC DataDoubler).
Method: As stated above, once both are installed, use Carbon Copy Clone to clone the Mac partition from the original HDD over to the SSD, then make the HDD a storage drive with a Windows Bootcamp partition (which is already installed).

The idea is that I'll switch everything over to the SSD minus pictures, videos, etc. and continue to use the HDD for those purposes. At the same time, having Windows Bootcamp already installed, be able to boot into Windows anytime I need without having to put anything on the SSD in that regards.

Looks like a good plan. My preference was to clone my internal to the SSD connected to an external connection first. That way I could boot from the clone and test before opening up the MBP. I decided to keep my optical installed and keep the original drive as a backup.

 

[c17guy]

Looks like a good plan. My preference was to clone my internal to the SSD connected to an external connection first. That way I could boot from the clone and test before opening up the MBP. I decided to keep my optical installed and keep the original drive as a backup.

Thanks for your response! I would love to keep my optical, but honestly it'll be just as useful in an external. I'm currently deployed overseas, but everything is waiting for me at the house! One week and hopefully I'll be attempting the install. Fingers crossed it goes well.