'The Savant' Star Jessica Chastain Says Apple TV+ Delay Is Wrong Call Amid Violence

[ignatius345]

There is no such thing as an Apple family, unless your last name is Apple.

Corporations don't care about us, we are only a means to satisfy shareholders.

This ☝️

Corporations are NOT our friends, no matter how much they try to convince us. Sometimes their interests are aligned with ours, but whenever they start talking about their "values" it's corporate-speak for "the positions that will make the highest number of consumers buy our products". In reality, their only values are about shareholder value. End of story.

And as we've seen for a long time, they all just blow with the political winds. A few years ago, they were all about diversity because people were marching in the streets for George Floyd. Or falling over themselves to sponsor Pride floats. Now they're cozying up to Trump, because they want to protect themselves from his tariffs and other policies. The corporations who run CBS and ABC will cancel late night hosts in a heartbeat if Trump's goon at the FCC cracks his knuckles and says "we can do this the easy way or the hard way."

Corporations exist to make money. That's it. They're not anyone's "friend" except their shareholders.

 

[turbineseaplane]

Corporations exist to make money. That's it. They're not anyone's "friend" except their shareholders.

That’s why I never understand why so many folks on the forum defend everything Apple does.

If it benefits you and you like it, I guess defend it, but don’t just defend everything Apple does because they are not looking out for your interests.

 

[KPOM]

By more balanced, do you mean sympathizing with the terrorists or promoting mass casualty events?

The "targets" would include left-wing terrorists and not just right-wing terrorists.

 

[Artemiz]

Apple needs to get out of the business of financing the production of TV and Movies. It's not their core business and is a distraction.

Are you familiar with the concept of expanding a business?

 

[IJustWannaTalk]

The "targets" would include left-wing terrorists and not just right-wing terrorists.

Siiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiigh.

You're talking about the protestors, aren't you?

 

[BaldiMac]

The "targets" would include left-wing terrorists and not just right-wing terrorists.

Left-wing terrorist groups aren't a significant thing in the US.

 

[KPOM]

What balance are you referring to? The vast majority of political violence since the 70s has been on the right. What political violence that there has been of the left, has almost exclusively been individuals.

If you want to take a look a violent political extremist groups in the US, then you are looking at right-wing extremists.

Even the left-leaning Atlantic now admits that left-wing political violence is rising.

Left-Wing Terrorism Is on the Rise

For the first time in more than 30 years, attacks by the far left outnumber those by the far right.

www.theatlantic.com

And there's a reason you started with the 1970s instead of the 1960s.

 

[Rogifan]

I always thought the premise of this show was bad. Why did Apple green light it?

 

[KPOM]

Left-wing terrorist groups aren't a significant thing in the US.

Left-Wing Terrorism Is on the Rise

For the first time in more than 30 years, attacks by the far left outnumber those by the far right.

www.theatlantic.com

Things like "CHAZ" in Seattle and the 3-month long riots in Portland a few years ago aren't just organic protests. They are coordinated.

 

[jimbobb24]

I'm so disappointed in how Apple has handled this moment (meaning this US Administration).

All these companies with money and power need to stand up, fight back and hold the line.

You don't "work with" regimes aspiring for dictatorial control.

There's no amount of paying bribes or gold & glass statues that will ultimately save you.

They are afraid to run a show about infiltrating online hate groups to take down the most violent extremists in the US?

That button needs to be pushed on NOW, more than ever!

"Aspiring for dictatorial control"
Sometimes I wish i wasnt such a milquetoast moderate because I want whatever you are smoking and for the world to get this black and white. Its must be fun/horrifying/invigorating.

However on your bold point we can all agree. If the govt was better at doing this they would have caught the assassin before his killing as he frequently was visiting online sources filled with hate and was a violent extremist.

 

[WestonHarvey1]

That's also the worldview of the FBI (because it's true). Or at least it was, until they deleted the relevant data a few weeks ago.

Pretty sure the FBI has been aware of the Weather Underground, Symbionese Liberation Army, New World Liberation Front, Animal Liberation Front, Antifa, Earth Liberation Front, etc etc etc.

 

[IJustWannaTalk]

Even the left-leaning Atlantic now admits that left-wing political violence is rising.

Left-Wing Terrorism Is on the Rise

For the first time in more than 30 years, attacks by the far left outnumber those by the far right.

www.theatlantic.com

And there's a reason you started with the 1970s instead of the 1960s.

Now rising, sure.

But still nowhere near as big of an issue as on the right.

The 'both sides' schtick seems to be hell bent on ignoring any actual problems in favor 'but both sides do it!'

 

[jarman92]

Pretty sure the FBI has been aware of the Weather Underground, Symbionese Liberation Army, New World Liberation Front, Animal Liberation Front, Antifa, Earth Liberation Front, etc etc etc.

Sure, and if it were 1975 then you may have a point. But literally every org you listed was last relevant roughly 50 years ago (Weather Underground and SLA don't even exist anymore, and "Antifa" isn't an org any more than "racist" is), and in 2025 the overwhelming majority of political violence comes from the right.

 

[IJustWannaTalk]

Left-Wing Terrorism Is on the Rise

For the first time in more than 30 years, attacks by the far left outnumber those by the far right.

www.theatlantic.com

Things like "CHAZ" in Seattle and the 3-month long riots in Portland a few years ago aren't just organic protests. They are coordinated.

How many people were killed during those protests?

 

[jarman92]

Even the left-leaning Atlantic now admits that left-wing political violence is rising.

Left-Wing Terrorism Is on the Rise

For the first time in more than 30 years, attacks by the far left outnumber those by the far right.

www.theatlantic.com

And there's a reason you started with the 1970s instead of the 1960s.

"For the first time in more than 30 years, attacks by the far left outnumber those by the far right."

Guess you stopped reading before the subhead 😂

 

[turbineseaplane]

"For the first time in more than 30 years, attacks by the far left outnumber those by the far right."

Guess you stopped reading before the subhead 😂

Yeah, from that article:

...according to our analysis, violence on the left accounted for four plots and attacks from 1994 to 2000, compared with 144 on the right. That difference narrowed in the following decade, but the right continued to account for significantly more attacks and killings than did the left.

In the past decade in the United States, 36 left-wing attacks have killed 13 people, whereas 152 right-wing attacks have killed 112.


Link if anyone needs it

 

[IJustWannaTalk]

"For the first time in more than 30 years, attacks by the far left outnumber those by the far right."

Guess you stopped reading before the subhead 😂

Not doing the full reading is the only way the right, in its current form, can possibly exist.

 

[jarman92]

"Aspiring for dictatorial control"
Sometimes I wish i wasnt such a milquetoast moderate because I want whatever you are smoking and for the world to get this black and white. Its must be fun/horrifying/invigorating.

However on your bold point we can all agree. If the govt was better at doing this they would have caught the assassin before his killing as he frequently was visiting online sources filled with hate and was a violent extremist.

I'm sorry, you don't think Trump is an aspiring dictator? Walk me through your logic, please.

 

[jarman92]

Not doing the full reading is the only way the right, in its current form, can possibly exist.

Seriously. I already knew that and still I'm continuously shocked by how they can say things that are just flatly contradicted by every shred of available evidence.

 

[turbineseaplane]

Seriously. I already knew that and still I'm continuously shocked by how they can say things that are just flatly contradicted by every shred of available evidence.

I'm not surprised at all.
Objectively, the Right has "news" sources that are lying them -- flat out.

I have a brother who's wrapped up in it and I hear things from him, daily, that are diametrically opposed with factual reality.

 

[IJustWannaTalk]

"Aspiring for dictatorial control"
Sometimes I wish i wasnt such a milquetoast moderate because I want whatever you are smoking and for the world to get this black and white. Its must be fun/horrifying/invigorating.

You're not a moderate, you're conservative. You like the status quo.

 

[Johnny907]

I think her statement is very reasonable. The show is currently a meme because the trailer gives the impression it’s worldview is that all political violence comes from the right, but perhaps it will be more balanced than that.

Oh sweet, summer child.

 

[IJustWannaTalk]

Seriously. I already knew that and still I'm continuously shocked by how they can say things that are just flatly contradicted by every shred of available evidence.

I was raised conservative. Took a lot of work to unwind all my biases against anything new.

I get that it's hard and often requires sacrifice.

 

[WestonHarvey1]

Sure, and if it were 1975 then you may have a point. But literally every org you listed was last relevant roughly 50 years ago (Weather Underground and SLA don't even exist anymore, and "Antifa" isn't an org any more than "racist" is), and in 2025 the overwhelming majority of political violence comes from the right.

Yes, things shift this way and that over time. This entire post exists because a left wing radical assassinated a right wing figure.

 

[IJustWannaTalk]

Yeah, from that article:

...according to our analysis, violence on the left accounted for four plots and attacks from 1994 to 2000, compared with 144 on the right. That difference narrowed in the following decade, but the right continued to account for significantly more attacks and killings than did the left.

In the past decade in the United States, 36 left-wing attacks have killed 13 people, whereas 152 right-wing attacks have killed 112.


Link if anyone needs it

This is the KEY part. Just because left-wing violence is rising doesn't mean it's as widespread as right-wing violence.

That being said, universal health care and a UBI would solve a TON of these underlying issues.