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I got free muffins, water and some nice eye candy, 4 to be precise, at the 3G O2 launch in welwyng garden city, shame the server crashed within 5 mins of opening the store.

I had the same at the Bullring Store.

Got inside the store by 8:05. Left with my iPhone 3G at 16:45. 😱

I'm not getting sucked into the hype this time. I'll order one for delivery and if I've got to wait a week or two, so be it. 🙂
 
The poster is correct... if VAT is 22% then the phone would go up to £122 in his example.

Just like when VAT dropped to 15% so did the prices of all UK products... the company pays less VAT but still keeps its profit margin.

Therefor 117.50 gives £100 profit and £117.5 tax then in turn 22% VAT would mean 122 giving £100 profit and £22 VAT
I haven't followed all of these VAT posts, but it is quite feasible for the VAT rate to go up and a retailer to keep the customer price the same and just take a hit on their profit margin. Lots of retailers did this when the 15% went back up to 17.5%, using slogans like "VAT held" or "you can trust our prices".

Obviously, a rise to 22% would make it less likely for retailers to adopt this strategy- that's quite a hefty increase.
 
They won't raise VAT on the day, they'll announce that as of *date much later on* VAT will go up... so there's not going to be a problem.

They have to give people a warning so that they can put their prices up. There are stores out there than run completely computer-free... they are going to have to go around the whole store and change the price tags on them.
 
Ok. Here's screenshots of the process I went through.

My online order detail from the order status page on the online store says none for the following data plan, voice plan, text plan.... This is for a simfree pre order. I guess it may show the same for a reservation, I would check when the store is back up.
 
Options

Here are my thoughts which may be useful (in advance of the phone prices from operators) - I've done my sums and figure:

I would like the 32Gb iPhone 4. I will be staying on O2 - you get £5/month off their very good broadband and the phone service is OK for me.

I'm on iPhone simplicity at the moment - £20/month with 600 mins/1200 texts. One option is to stay on simplicity and buy iPhone 4 as O2 payg.

The other option is contract - I would be going on an 18 month £35/month contract (only need 300 mins really), but would like the option to pay off in a year to get the next phone etc. So, assuming a £20/month buy-out.

So, if I see out the full contract for 18 months:

18 months on Simplicity would be £360
18 months on contract would be £630

Therefore, if the payg phone is less than £270 more than the subsidised contract phone, the total amount to pay would be less on Simplicity.

If I was to buy out after 12 months:

12 months on Simplicity would be £240
12 months on contract (plus £20/month buyout) would be £540

Therefore, if the payg phone is less than £300 more than the subsidised contract phone, the total amount to pay would be less on Simplicity.

Simiplicity also gives me 300 extra mins/month and the unlimited data if O2 will let me stay on the existing deal (see below)

The other things to consider are:

Can I use my existing simpilicity 'contract' with the new iPhone 4 (to get unlimited data) or will O2 force me onto their new capped data when they send me a microsim? Could I just get a sim cutter?

Is the O2 insurance (which I would be getting anyway - it's been useful before!) available on payg?
 
And just for fun cause I now know how to upload pics....here's my order confirmation email. lol
 

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Chat with Vodafone...


You are now connected with Alex.

Alex: Hello, you're chatting with Alex, one of Vodafone's online sales specialists. May I take your name please?
You: Hi, are you able to preorder the iPhone 4 today?
You: yes its Neil
Alex: hi Neil, yes, we are going to have I-Phone 4 on pre-order by evening, so still few hrs to go
 
I've reserved mine. Got confirmation email.

I click cancel reservation, removed the iPhone, and the next step is to log in. Logging in isn't working at the moment so It wont have cancelled right?
 
Here are my thoughts which may be useful (in advance of the phone prices from operators) - I've done my sums and figure:

I would like the 32Gb iPhone 4. I will be staying on O2 - you get £5/month off their very good broadband and the phone service is OK for me.

I'm on iPhone simplicity at the moment - £20/month with 600 mins/1200 texts. One option is to stay on simplicity and buy iPhone 4 as O2 payg.

The other option is contract - I would be going on an 18 month £35/month contract (only need 300 mins really), but would like the option to pay off in a year to get the next phone etc. So, assuming a £20/month buy-out.

So, if I see out the full contract for 18 months:

18 months on Simplicity would be £360
18 months on contract would be £630

Therefore, if the payg phone is less than £270 more than the subsidised contract phone, the total amount to pay would be less on Simplicity.

If I was to buy out after 12 months:

12 months on Simplicity would be £240
12 months on contract (plus £20/month buyout) would be £540

Therefore, if the payg phone is less than £300 more than the subsidised contract phone, the total amount to pay would be less on Simplicity.

Simiplicity also gives me 300 extra mins/month and the unlimited data if O2 will let me stay on the existing deal (see below)

The other things to consider are:

Can I use my existing simpilicity 'contract' with the new iPhone 4 (to get unlimited data) or will O2 force me onto their new capped data when they send me a microsim? Could I just get a sim cutter?

Is the O2 insurance (which I would be getting anyway - it's been useful before!) available on payg?

Already summarised.
PPS you'll see the O2 Simplicity tariffs haved changed, You'll need a Smart Phone Tariff if you want Data, £20pm 300mins
 

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Reservations still ain't a guarantee of getting one, chaps, sadly. I've been trying to order since 9am and haven't got further than the 'Enter your payment details' screen. Now the Apple Store is completely closed again, after a brief period of being back up.

*sigh*
 
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