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They're waiting to see what each other does in my view. Don't forget there are 6 networks in competition now, so price is crucial.

*ding* we have a winner!

No-one really wants to blink first here, especially considering the rage that was thrown at O2 for capping data. Three and T-mobile may be waiting on allocations I guess considering they came late to the party but I'd be amazed if O2, Orange and Vodafone don't know exactly how many units they're getting (although I guess they may be working out on-line v in-store allocations internally). It's that all important price that's killer, especially when they can all react so very quickly these days. Once someone breaks and publishes figures they'll all follow on I'm sure.
 
Not expecting any of them to release subsidised handset prices and final network tariffs until at least the 23rd now. At least i hope its the 23rd so i can make an informed decision on what route to take before i collect my phones from the Apple store on the morning of the 24th.
 
I have virtually made up my mind to leave O2 for Vodafone and I'm also interested in data roaming deals because data abroad tends to be such a rip-off.

Anyone know what the best deal is in this regard?

- after doing some digging yesterday, vodafone definitely seems the best - the call charges are good too. they charge a connection fee and then it's out of your normal bundled minutes, or if you're receiving a call it's free. I don't travel loads, but when I do I need to be contactable, so it makes a difference

This sounds really interesting. Can you elaborate a bit?

- free app called hullomail; linked with phone number, and then activated foloowing instructions. people leave a message for you as they would do normally, and the app sends you a push notification telling you you have a voicemail and who it's from, and a badge appears on the app icon. click on the app to listen/see who the message is from.
 
"Due to unprecedented pre-order and reserved demand for Apple's new iPhone 4, it will not be possible to supply handsets for sale through individual networks for launch day on June 24th. As a result, individual networks will not be offering any pre-order facility. All networks should be in receipt of stock by July 2nd."
 
*ding* we have a winner!

No-one really wants to blink first here, especially considering the rage that was thrown at O2 for capping data. Three and T-mobile may be waiting on allocations I guess considering they came late to the party but I'd be amazed if O2, Orange and Vodafone don't know exactly how many units they're getting (although I guess they may be working out on-line v in-store allocations internally). It's that all important price that's killer, especially when they can all react so very quickly these days. Once someone breaks and publishes figures they'll all follow on I'm sure.

That reacting quickly is so true... they all definitely have the iphone 4 pages all ready... they prob just have some employees (or like 1-2 for each company) just checking each of the other company's sites for prices... and as soon as another site releases it, they are told what price to use depending on the other company's prices, then they enter those price on their own site and upload it immediately...

"Due to unprecedented pre-order and reserved demand for Apple's new iPhone 4, it will not be possible to supply handsets for sale through individual networks for launch day on June 24th. As a result, individual networks will not be offering any pre-order facility. All networks should be in receipt of stock by July 2nd."

Where did you get that? please tell me not the apple site!!! also... if apple has contracts with the networks to provide phones for the 24th, which is most likely or they wouldn't (shouldn't at least) have announced june 24th release dates), then there is no way in hell that apple can go back on that and say they're sending iphones to the networks later cuz the networks could sue for delivery on the 24th... (only problem is that they may not cuz they want to keep good relations with iphone... if I has the head of a network... I'm not sure I would do anything other than make a fuss if apple told me they had to send my company our allotted iphones)
 
"Due to unprecedented pre-order and reserved demand for Apple's new iPhone 4, it will not be possible to supply handsets for sale through individual networks for launch day on June 24th. As a result, individual networks will not be offering any pre-order facility. All networks should be in receipt of stock by July 2nd."

"It's pointless putting a quote without saying who and where it came from"
 
"Due to unprecedented pre-order and reserved demand for Apple's new iPhone 4, it will not be possible to supply handsets for sale through individual networks for launch day on June 24th. As a result, individual networks will not be offering any pre-order facility. All networks should be in receipt of stock by July 2nd."

Can I ask who/what your source is for this quote please?
 
Not expecting any of them to release subsidised handset prices and final network tariffs until at least the 23rd now. At least i hope its the 23rd so i can make an informed decision on what route to take before i collect my phones from the Apple store on the morning of the 24th.

If they do this it will be chaos :mad:
 
- free app called hullomail; linked with phone number, and then activated foloowing instructions. people leave a message for you as they would do normally, and the app sends you a push notification telling you you have a voicemail and who it's from, and a badge appears on the app icon. click on the app to listen/see who the message is from.

Thanks for that. Sounds great!:)
 
"Due to unprecedented pre-order and reserved demand for Apple's new iPhone 4, it will not be possible to supply handsets for sale through individual networks for launch day on June 24th. As a result, individual networks will not be offering any pre-order facility. All networks should be in receipt of stock by July 2nd."

What? So i'm being penalised for not ordering from Apple because i'm doing the O2 early upgrade?

Lovely. :rolleyes:
 
"Due to unprecedented pre-order and reserved demand for Apple's new iPhone 4, it will not be possible to supply handsets for sale through individual networks for launch day on June 24th. As a result, individual networks will not be offering any pre-order facility. All networks should be in receipt of stock by July 2nd."

???
Where did you hear that?
Jack
 
"Due to unprecedented pre-order and reserved demand for Apple's new iPhone 4, it will not be possible to supply handsets for sale through individual networks for launch day on June 24th. As a result, individual networks will not be offering any pre-order facility. All networks should be in receipt of stock by July 2nd."

WHAT! Are you serious?:eek:
 
What? So i'm being penalised for not ordering from Apple because i'm doing the O2 early upgrade?

Lovely. :rolleyes:

The early upgrade can also be done at any Apple store, it says in the Terms & Conditions on the Early Upgrade site.
I saw and quoted the info from the O2 iPhone Technical Forum.
 
"Due to unprecedented pre-order and reserved demand for Apple's new iPhone 4, it will not be possible to supply handsets for sale through individual networks for launch day on June 24th. As a result, individual networks will not be offering any pre-order facility. All networks should be in receipt of stock by July 2nd."

Unless that's a press release from Apple (in which case we'd be all over it) it's unverifiable. Only the supplier has the ability to know that and they're keeping schtum.
 
"Due to unprecedented pre-order and reserved demand for Apple's new iPhone 4, it will not be possible to supply handsets for sale through individual networks for launch day on June 24th. As a result, individual networks will not be offering any pre-order facility. All networks should be in receipt of stock by July 2nd."

Just did a google search of the quote andit didn't show anything with that direct quote (just pages with random words from the quote) so i'm thinking it's made up...

The early upgrade can also be done at any Apple store, it says in the Terms & Conditions on the Early Upgrade site.
I saw and quoted the info from the O2 iPhone Technical Forum.

So post the link...
 
So I know they are now sold out on preorders but it mentions about first come first served. I'm guessing that is for the people that didn't manage to reserve one at their local Apple store?
 
The early upgrade can also be done at any Apple store, it says in the Terms & Conditions on the Early Upgrade site.
I saw and quoted the info from the O2 iPhone Technical Forum.

I can't get to an Apple Store until Saturday 26th. Was hoping to get one shipped to my home address.

Apparently not. I'm sure I can wait until the 2nd July.
 
"Due to unprecedented pre-order and reserved demand for Apple's new iPhone 4, it will not be possible to supply handsets for sale through individual networks for launch day on June 24th. As a result, individual networks will not be offering any pre-order facility. All networks should be in receipt of stock by July 2nd."

No source, no link.... not true!

The UK networks websites are still saying the 24th too.
 
Not bothered about waiting for prices now, as it will be another 5-6 months before the white gets released lol.
 
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There isn't anything on the Apple press release site, but assume it's true for a moment. Yes, if you've reserved a handset you can do a carrier upgrade in an Apple Store. BUT, you won't be able to if the networks haven't provided pricing by the 24th (as Apple won't know what to charge you for the phone) and this would be feasible if they aren't getting it until July. Those who have reserved and are wanting a new contract or an upgrade then might have to decide whether to buy the reserved phone sim free or just leave it.
 
So I know they are now sold out on preorders but it mentions about first come first served. I'm guessing that is for the people that didn't manage to reserve one at their local Apple store?

That wouldn't really be fair on us who live almost 3 hours from our "local" apple store.....
 
do any of you guys remember what it was like when the 3g was released the stores only got about 4 phones of each colour if they were lucky. now that there are 6 networks how many iphones are going to be available? it it going to be 1 per store
 
Not expecting any of them to release subsidised handset prices and final network tariffs until at least the 23rd now. At least i hope its the 23rd so i can make an informed decision on what route to take before i collect my phones from the Apple store on the morning of the 24th.
Can you imagine if they don't release final network tariffs until the 24th? Apple would be furious. We've all seen the Applestore frenzy when people queue to get their new iPhones. Just imagine how much worse that would be if each person in the queue was having to make an on-the-spot decision about what tariff to go for. I suppose Apple could print out summary sheets and hand them to people in the queues (or put it up on a website so that all those 3GS's in the queue can perform one last task for their owners) but even so, it would add enormously to the chaos.

Apple must be putting serious pressure on the networks to make sure that they don't take this right down to the wire and cause such chaos on the 24th.

- Julian
 
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