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The Ultimate iPad and iOS Wishlist Thread - 50 Fixes The iPad Still Needs
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I already did. You must have missed it.
People were saying the same thing about copy and paste, multitasking and a whole host of other features as well. That Apple left them out on purpose, (usually followed up by some claim that it's because they are unApple like, that no one really needs them etc. etc.).
Now they are saying the same thing about being able to drag and drop photos and videos off an SD card into the iPad. That apple left it out on purpose, rather than simply because they didn't yet have time to program that functionality. That something that simple is somehow un Apple like. That people don't really use the iPad for anything beyond the utmost basic of tasks.
Then they should get a basic cell phone, not a $300 smartphone, and certainly not a $500 iPad. Apple isn't catering to the people in the market for a Motorola Razor, just because a few such people happen to have an iPad. Apple is catering to people that actually want to use their iPad at the very minimum to do things like download pictures off of their friends flicker account, etc.
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Boy, you REALLY love your straw men don't you. Who exactly in this thread, has called the iPad a failure? Get off your high horse about goods. You don't get to dictate when a device is good enough for someone else. If somehow wants to be able to download email attachments from their iPad, or download a photo from facebook onto their iPad, they have every right to post that request in a wishlist.
It's certainly no more bizarre than your logic that states that things like copy and paste are not basic functions on a smartphone.
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No you didn't. I checked your posts. Nobody said:
'the current iPad is perfect'
'that if Apple implements these wishes the device will cease to be an iPad'
'basic functionality like attaching a file to an e-mail is unApple'
Nobody said anything comparable to this, not even paraphrased. Some people have said 'Apple's position is to offer what they wish to offer. If people don't like this, they will go elsewhere. I am fine with that.'
This is the livin' end. People who are satisfied with the iPad shouldn't have bought it, they should have bought a basic cell phone (wtf)? The only people who should have bought the iPad are those who see it as lacking basic functionality? Or maybe nobody should have bought the first version, I dunno. This is even more lmao in light of your current post:
Anyway,
Nobody, but I get the impression that if Apple doesn't add these 'basic features' you will be content with that? That the iPad doesn't need fixes, that reasonable human beings being rational will be content with the device?
What? Where did I say this?
In the very text of mine you just quoted I said "It's fine to say 'I would like one which does X' but to turn that desire into some obligation on Apple's part (because any reasonable person needs to futz around with file systems?) is worthy of disapproval." Calm down.
Actually, that's pretty much EXACTLY what they said.
How else do you interpret the statement...
Basic reading comprehension tells you that if a person repeatedly claims that the iPad does every single thing most people want it to do, they're claiming that the device is perfect.
It's hilarious reading all the contortions you've made in the past several posts. First you claim that someone posting...
"The iPad should have . . . X"
is somehow completely different from someone posting...
'I would like (an iPad) that does... X'
That somehow, the first statement is a demand of apple and only the latter statement qualifies as a wish.
Then this strawman...
Read what the person I quoted actually wrote, or atleast quote me in context. My statement was a response to a poster claiming that most people don't do anything on their iPad beyond "get calls, send texts, and show off photos to the neighbors, that's it"
That's a ridiculous claim on it's face, (and not just the part about getting calls on it),
How could anyone honestly believe that iPad owners wouldn't ever like to do something like be able to upload a photo to facebook, or download a facebook photo and attach it to an email.
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That's exactly what I mean. Yes, I'd like all these stuff on the iPad, but not until Apple can do that and still price it under $500. Oh, and have it weigh the same as the current iPad, or less. With battery life the same, or longer.
The poster you quoted simply said that many people are happy with their iPads, do not find fault with it, do not notice what it does not do, and expend zero energy thinking about what kind of device they would prefer. So I guess I'm convinced - for those people, the device is perfect. The next generation of iPad will be a different device. If it meets the needs of the people who buy it at a price they are happy with, then for them the iPad 2G will be perfect. And so on.
So Apple isn't catering to the people who have bought an iPad and do what they please with it, they are catering to people who have the same wishes as you do and who are unsatisfied with the device! I thought Apple was catering to people who are willing to pay the price of an iPad, for an iPad, plain and simple.
Yes, your last sentence is correct. 'Should' is a variant of 'ought' or 'must', it has normative implications and implies obligations on the part of oneself or another. If people use 'should' to mean something else then they are the ones contorting their words.
And how exactly is that inappropriate for a wishlist?
When you have to jump through so many hoops, and not just in regards to the subtle differences between "should" vs. "ought" vs. "wish," maybe it's a sign that you are overanalyzing things far too much.
When/if Apple does release a device with most of the capabilities in the OP, clearly, some of the things in the OP like 4G/LTE support will only be found in the high end iPad models. You should expect to pay $800 for it minimum.
They probably will almost certainly release a pared down iPad with some of these features missing for $499, and you are free to buy that version if that's your budget. But if your budget is $499, I would expect the higher end features like 4G/LTE support, 128gbs of storage etc.
Previous versions of the iPhone have varied slightly in size, weight, and battery life. The different iPad versions will also vary likewise in size and weight slightly from the current version.
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Can that poster also read minds. Because it sure sounds like he can if he is able to know so much about the iPad userbase.
There is a difference between a person being generally satisfied with a device, and a person who thinks it's absolutely perfect and has no room for improvement, no changes needed, absolutely nothing that needs fixing etc.
I've always contended that most iPad owners are generally satisfied with the device. But that doesn't mean there aren't features, things that the iPad can't do that they wish it could. That's one function of this thread, to list such features.
People in response have posted that every single feature omitted from the iPad was done not due to insufficient time to implement them, but were omitted purposefully by Apple.
I've heard similar claims made about cut and paste, multitasking and a whole host of other functionality, and they were wrong then as well, as they are wrong now.
Good night.
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Those two things you mention aren't mutually exclusive. That is, Apple knew they didn't have enough time/resources to implement them, therefore they left them out deliberately.
No, they haven't. Only thing they've ever varied is storage size (8, 16, 32 GB) and color (black or white). The current iPad has a Wifi-only version plus a Wifi+3G version, but with minimum weight difference, and no difference in size. I don't think Apple will do a 4G iphone/ipad until they can put it in their "base" model, at the current price point or lower. I can't see them putting out a 3G iphone and at the same time having a 4G model for people willing to pay a little extra, and the same for iPad. I can see them getting rid of the wifi-only model, and selling the wifi+3G (or 4G) at $500 for the basic model, but I don't think they'll have a wifi-only model, a wifi+3G model, and a wifi+4G model on top of that. That's too much product fragmentation.
I want all of those improvements, except RFID!!!
And hey, did you forgot FLASH??? I want that too.
And hey, did you forgot FLASH??? I want that too.
Except, that's not anywhere near what his quote was claiming...
Where do you get "Apple knew they didn't have enough time/resources to implement them" from that?
Not once did I ever say that Apple "forgot" to implement these features. What I've stated repeated is that Apple either didn't have enough time/resources or didn't take the time/resources needed to implement these features, and that they ought to.
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I want flash too, but unfortunalty that's not happening, so I guess I'm going to dual boot with Honeycomb, for flash and a desktop style interface. (please Apple, make iOS a desktop style interface - like Honeycomb)
ApplesAOranges said:I want all of those improvements, except RFID!!!
And hey, did you forgot FLASH??? I want that too.
I want flash too, but unfortunalty that's not happening, so I guess I'm going to dual boot with Honeycomb, for flash and a desktop style interface. (please Apple, make iOS a desktop style interface - like Honeycomb)
I want the ipad to integrate more with the iphone. ive said it all along. there should be a software setting on the iphone that pushes all texts, notifications to the ipad. so I dont have to go back and forth just to reply to text messages. Now blackberry is doing it with the playbook but I figured apple would have done this from the get go with the ipad. im still waiting.
You know what, I don't have enouogh time to keep track of who said what when. But what you seem to be saying, in this post I'm quoting above, is that Apple should have taken the time/resources to implement all the features you listed in your gigantic OP. Well, I've got news for you -- nobody has that kind of time/resource, and when they try, they end up with Windows Vista.
I am saying they should, NOW, present tense. They should work on these things now so that they are ready for the iPad 2 or the iPad 3. They can easily be implemented in a way that makes using the iPad simpler and more intuitive. Dragging and dropping videos and photos into the iPad from an SD card directly is simpler and more intuitive than having to sync it with iTunes each time.
The trolls are the loudest people in this thread and according to them, no one wants these features, but that doesn't mean anything. Lets keep an eye on the poll, and see how many people want these changes and how many people think the iPad is fine as is.
Great idea. I added that to the OP.
The trolls are the loudest people in this thread and according to them, no one wants these features, but that doesn't mean anything. Lets keep an eye on the poll, and see how many people want these changes and how many people think the iPad is fine as is.
Great idea. I added that to the OP.
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A filesystem is my biggest want for the next iOS. Not like on a Mac where you see system files and other stuff, but just like a users home folder.
A place that all apps can access and load and save files from/to.
That way if I have a document it doesn't have to exist inside of each app in order to access it. (1 copy in DropBox, 1 in Pages, 1 in DocsToGo, etc.) Also it means that Apples apps would be able to share files with DropBox or any other file syncing service. Then get rid of the file sharing in iTunes and instead just have the disk show up as an external drive.
Other then that I would like notifications that don't disappear immediately (Like push notifications that you see on the unlock screen). So let the notifications show up somewhere and have a dismiss all button or something like that.
A place that all apps can access and load and save files from/to.
That way if I have a document it doesn't have to exist inside of each app in order to access it. (1 copy in DropBox, 1 in Pages, 1 in DocsToGo, etc.) Also it means that Apples apps would be able to share files with DropBox or any other file syncing service. Then get rid of the file sharing in iTunes and instead just have the disk show up as an external drive.
Other then that I would like notifications that don't disappear immediately (Like push notifications that you see on the unlock screen). So let the notifications show up somewhere and have a dismiss all button or something like that.
Oh. Well then, I have no doubt most of these things are being worked on, if not for iPad2 or 3, then for 4 and beyond. And a few more things we haven't yet dreamed of, too. It's just, you know, not everything will be ready for market at once.
And there will always be things that Apple leaves out because they are Apple, and they'll leave things out that are becoming technologically obsolete, though everyone else hasn't realized it yet. Like they were the first ones to drop floppy disks. I think a similar thing is going on with file transfer over USB ports and card slots, which I think Apple is dropping in favor of wireless file transfers. It's true that wireless connections isn't quite universally ubiquitious yet, but once every device out there gets that capability, no one would want to bother with USB anymore. I mean, I have a jailbroken iPad, and when it was on 3.2, I could access a USB flash drive through the camera connection kit. But then I found an app called FileBrowser, which let me connect to shared drives on the network -- and guess what, I no longer needed a USB drive! I could get the files I needed directly from the network.
So I guess what I'm saying is, in five years time, we'll look back and find half the things on your wishlist have come true, the other half will look quaint and outdated and we'd laugh that we ever thought we needed them, and we'd also have a number of features that never made any wishlist, but would feel so sensible and natural we'd have forgotten that there was a time we didn't even think of them.
This is what iPad/iPhone desperately needs. Just being able to easily access the same files/documents from different apps would be a huge bonus. If the default mail app had the ability to add any file as an attachment it would be a boon to business users.
There actually always has been a file system on iOS. You see this when you jailbreak it - it is very similar to the normal OSX file system. Just give us access to the Documents folder! That is all we ask!!