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The Ultimate rMBP Image Retention Test

Did you see Image retention on your rMBP with this test?

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Replacement SAMSUNG!!!!!!!!!!!

Guys I had a LG panel and i requested a replacement, now i got a Samsung display. It looked horrible with yellow tint on the screen (LG seamed soooo much better but once i calibrated the display and increased the blue levels the display looked just gorgeous. SAMSUNG VS APPLE = apple wins
APPLE looking for alternative suppliers = customers lose's
BTW from what i understand apple is using around 50% + samsung now.
4 of my freinds now have a retina macbook all of which have a samsung display so i think apple should of took more notice in PLS rather than IPS.
 
Blue604 said:
This is the official fix for IR problem on Retina display Macbook Pro

"This article explains how to avoid image persistence on certain Apple displays, and describes the unique characteristics of IPS display technology."

http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5455
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They just screwed us again with this article.

iLukeJoseph said:
Just picked up a rMBP from Apple yesterday. Should I just see if it is an LG and swap it if it is, instead of holding on to it "hoping" to not develop an "IR" issue?

I will read most of this thread tomorrow, so this question may be answered. But why is it being refered to as "IR"? If using this term correctly, that means it goes away. So is this IR or burn-in?
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IR = Image retention. It will be gone.
Burn in was used in plasma TV. Once it is burned in, it is there forever.
 
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I would vote multiple times, if I could.

I went to the local apple store today and tested several of their rmbp on display. Out of the 4 I tested, 3 were LG screens, 1 was samsung. The LG screens all showed ghosting, some less severe than others. I was surprised by the clarity of the ghosting which showed up after less than 5 minutes of testing.

I spoke to an apple technician there and he said:
- IR is a clear reason for a replacement, which can be done for 3 years with apple care.
- They cannot guarantee a replacement will have a samsung screen.
- Apple may eventually phase out shipment of rmbps with LG screens.

After all of this, I'm still torn between buying a rmbp or a cmbp..
 
two rMBP, samsung screen left, screen right lg
The lg macbook screen looks much better than the Samsung, but the Samsung yellows, blacks are worse, lg screen is well calibrated colors have a colder hue

zero, repeat a thousand times zero zero zero zero zero IR on LG screen.
I made the IR test for 5 days without touching the screen
I definitely prefer the LG screen :)

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golf1410 said:
IR = Image retention. It will be gone.
Burn in was used in plasma TV. Once it is burned in, it is there forever.
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More specifically, burn in is the result of uneven wear. plasma TVs also commonly exhibit image retention that fades. If it manifests as darker spots on a bright image then is likely is burn. If you see bright residual images on a darker screen then it is IR.
 
I have retention after about 4 minutes. It's that bad. I basically see retention all the time.
 
SchuettS said:
Could you notice the IR when switching background colors or just that color? Just wondering because I can only notice very very slight IR on that color background.
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To be honest only on dark backgrounds. However it does affect my working. When you use many layers on a PCB you use many different colours. When checking up the design and there is IR all over you get confused.
 
cenixentor said:
two rMBP, samsung screen left, screen right lg
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You might be happy with an LG screen now, but the problem will develop soon. I thought I was in the clear with my LG screen, and about 6 weeks after purchase I started seeing it. I have a week 25 screen that was reported on Apple's forums as being good – not true. The problem had not yet happened for the user who reported it. I did not bother checking if the person keeping track has since amended or updated his post.
 
No image retention for me, with an LG screen.

I previously had a Samsung display, but I had the display replaced 2 weeks ago because of dead pixels. Perhaps the replacement LG screens are of higher quality.
 
I fully believe people are having significant problems and should get a replacement since these are $3k machines. Though I also feel some people are trying way to hard to find a problem that is otherwise not apparent under normal conditions. Text showing up on a white screen is bad, but who leaves a checkered pattern test screen on their computer for hours at a time anyway?

I can't wait to see how far everyone here goes with these tests. Probably "OMG I left my screen on full brightness for a month on my homepage and now I have IR. I'm returning this piece of S@$#!"

Using my rMBP as my main machine for photography and web design on a daily basis I have not noticed any IR and don't plan on leaving checkered patterns on my screen for longer and longer periods until I find a problem.

;)
 
I have an LG screen, after doing this test it turns out I see some retention. It goes away after about 5 minutes.
I never noticed it until now, ignorance is bliss!
 
cenixentor said:
two rMBP, samsung screen left, screen right lg
The lg macbook screen looks much better than the Samsung, but the Samsung yellows, blacks are worse, lg screen is well calibrated colors have a colder hue

zero, repeat a thousand times zero zero zero zero zero IR on LG screen.
I made the IR test for 5 days without touching the screen
I definitely prefer the LG screen :)
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Nice comparison. I would like to see some more pics comparing those two screens - I do have a samsung and I'm not convinced about the black level. Everything else is quite ok - but maybe the LG is really better?!

Would be nice to see some more pics. (black comparison, colored pictures,...)
 
LG screen with very bad burning. Could I get this replaced by Apple?
 

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Deputydog said:
I have an LG screen, after doing this test it turns out I see some retention. It goes away after about 5 minutes.
I never noticed it until now, ignorance is bliss!
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Same. Never noticed it until now. Mine was purchased on the day of release.
 
Adidas Addict said:
If you haven't got any issues, then the WhyTF would you go looking for them?
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If you work with graphics, particularly photography, and need to do some serious color matching, an image retention issue could theoretically contaminate your efforts at achieving the desired color with precision.

Also, if it is a problem that gets worse with time, finding it now could provide a more viable path to a remedy than waiting for it to be a real problem after the warranty is up.

Beyond those fairly esoteric reasons, I can think of none.
 
Bought my machine the first day and it has the problem. That said, never noticed it until I did this test. So really not sure if I'll do anything about it. Really like the machine.
 
RMBP image retention—yes or no?

Macrumors has run a recent article[1] concerning image retention problems with the new retina MBP. Reader comments vary, from those reporting no issues, to those distinctly obvious.

So, in the interest of some objective data, what has been your experience with the screen of the RMBP (with image retention)?



No, I see no signs of image retention (LG screen)
Yes, there are signs of image retention (LG screen)

No, I see no signs of image retention (Samsung screen)
Yes, there are signs of image retention (Samsung screen)

No, I see no signs of image retention (and I do not know the type of screen)
Yes, there are signs of image retention (and I do not know the type of screen)


 
Damn, I thought I had a perfect LG screen until I did this test. It shows slight IR, which I haven't seen until this test. Should I take it to Apple? I have AppleCare for it.
 
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