Before Apple did retail, they were very efficient and had almost no stock on hand, and made computers as orders came in. While that's smart business in general, I wonder how Apple fairs now that it has retail stores that need stock on hand? I would assume they're still fairly efficient, because an inefficient business is usually a dead business.
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The "Waiting for Nehalem Mac Pros" thread
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Zmmyt
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At the earliest, providing Intel starts making chips the first week of January.
Apple updates around 6 to 8 weeks after production starts, so for it to be February, they would have to start earlier than they're anticipated to start.
Zmmyt
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gazfocus
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I'm on the waiting train for the Nehalem Mac Pro and although I know the general opinion is that we won't see it before February/March, do you think there's a possibility that they will be announced at Macworld with a shipping estimate as Apple seem to do quite a bit nowadays?
Umbongo
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gazfocus
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I mean they announce updates and then ship them later on (as they did with AppleTV 2, Macbook Air, Time Capsule, 8800GT BTO for MP)
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1. Because there was no precedent.
2. Because there was no precedent.
3. Because there was no precedent.
4. Because there was no precedent.
If they were to announce the Nehalem Mac Pro at MacWorld, shipping months later, they would have to stop selling the current Mac Pro and take preorders for the new one only, and either way they'd be killing months worth of sales.
They won't do that.
gazfocus
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Hey, I'm not. It's called the Osborne Effect, and it's the reason that Apple keeps its products under wraps.
gazfocus
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It amazes me that people think Apple will announce a new MacPro at MacWorld that isn't ready to ship. Last year, Apple actually had a new MacPro to announce. Did they introduce it at MacWorld? No, they made a quiet announcement one week earlier. They either didn't think it was worth taking up time at Macworld, or didn't think that was the proper venue (with MacWorld being consumer oriented, not pro). Either way, they had a new MacPro ready to go and didn't announce it at MacWorld.
There is no way they will announce a new MacPro at MacWorld unless it's ready to ship. And we've pretty well established that that is pretty much impossible.
There is no way they will announce a new MacPro at MacWorld unless it's ready to ship. And we've pretty well established that that is pretty much impossible.
CATinHAWAII
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Yeah, but if it's the LAST MACWORLD??? And Steve won't be doing it,,,
Actually, I think Steve will do the "One more thing, just at the end, and really rile up the crowd!
That would be going out with a bang!
PS and I'm waiting for a new Mac Pro!
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Oh, well, in that case, let's throw all our business sense out the window and announce everything that we're making in 2009 right now!
What does being the last MacWorld have to do with Intel not having made Nehalem Xeon chips?
CATinHAWAII
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Whoa Nellie! I think the thread was "waiting for Nahalem Mac Pro"
Reign it in, Mr Business Sense!
It was a comment, and what ID LIKE TO SEE,,,,,
gazfocus
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Actually, Steve DID mention the Mac Pro during Macworld last year. It was a brief statement but he did acknowledge that they'd just updated the Mac Pro to the worlds 'Fastest Computer'
i couldn't wait and im building myself an i7 pc. i'll miss osx but i sure won't miss the outdated hardware. never thought this day would come, but i got tired of getting charged premium prices for technology thats been on the market for over a year. sure the aesthetics are pleasing, you don't have to fiddle with anything out of the box, and osx is so lovely but i was looking for pure computing power (as i would imagine to be the same for anyone in the market for a mac pro). a new gaming machine doesn't hurt either 🙂 (it would be used as: a DAW, photoshop station for 5d mkii's massive 21mp photos, and encoding video).
typical oc-i7 specs:
core i7 920, 2.66ghz
ocz 6gb (3x2gb) ddr3 1600
evga x58 tri-sli motherboard
bfg tech geforce gtx 280 1gb gddr3
wd 500gb 32mb hd
sony 22x dvd burner
750w pc c&c psu
thermalright ultra 120 extreme
keyboard
with the potential to solidly hit 3.8ghz-4ghz for $1600, paying at least $2000 more for a comparable machine with outdated hardware was not very reasonable for me. i think osx is the best thing since sliced bread (except for the fact that my mbp on leopard isn't burning any cd/dvds) but it's not $2000 good. wait a little more and performance/value will increase even more. i'll still be keeping my first gen mbp.
oh and if you're a student, visit dreamspark.com and get yourself a free copy of windows server 2008 🙂
typical oc-i7 specs:
core i7 920, 2.66ghz
ocz 6gb (3x2gb) ddr3 1600
evga x58 tri-sli motherboard
bfg tech geforce gtx 280 1gb gddr3
wd 500gb 32mb hd
sony 22x dvd burner
750w pc c&c psu
thermalright ultra 120 extreme
keyboard
with the potential to solidly hit 3.8ghz-4ghz for $1600, paying at least $2000 more for a comparable machine with outdated hardware was not very reasonable for me. i think osx is the best thing since sliced bread (except for the fact that my mbp on leopard isn't burning any cd/dvds) but it's not $2000 good. wait a little more and performance/value will increase even more. i'll still be keeping my first gen mbp.
oh and if you're a student, visit dreamspark.com and get yourself a free copy of windows server 2008 🙂
I took his comment as sarcastic humor, nothing more. 🙂
Seriously though, don't fool yourself. 😱 Steve Jobs and Apple have always put business first IMO, despite any perception or rhetoric to the contrary. 😉 Woz always seemed to be more of the idealist of the two, and he's no longer there. He's off doing things that interest him and hopefully benifit others. Particularly his projects involving education. (Kids + computers to learn = Happy Woz) 😀
The events, etc are just clever marketing tools to sell their products. Good business, plain and simple. 😛
I'm sort of in the same boat. The internals are just too small for my needs, and going external RAID eliminates the economy the base Mac Pro has over the PC equivalents. Then take overclocking less expensive hardware, and building gets even more attractive to me. 😉
Even so, I can still make a Franken-Hack... out of it. 😀 😛
However, it says a lot that Apple had a significant upgrade to their flagship computer and didn't wait one extra week so it could be announced at Macworld.
Bottom line:
1. There is no way that Apple will announce a new Macpro at Macworld unless it's ready to ship.
2. There is virtually no chance that Apple will be ready to ship a new MacPro by early January.
3. Even if they did have a MacPro ready to ship, they still might not announce it at Macworld
You're going to have to show me how Segway polo benefits others or involves education 😀
That falls under "Stress Management Study". 😉
And he's obviously interested in such foolishness...err.. studies. 😀 😛