Well my hands aren’t exactly small, and could easily accomodate a ‘regular’ sized phone….but my 13 mini will have to be pried out of them first…LOVE this form factor.
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There Is No iPhone 14 Mini: Here's Why [Updated]
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It has to be cheaper or pack more features. Personally, i would love something à la 14 Mini Pro, but I can imagine the technical challenges of designing such product. All in all, apple probably came to a conclusion that it’s not worth the r&d, when the Mini sales only account for a few % of the lot.
And since there was literally zero competition, the customers are stuck with two options: buy a larger iPhone or a larger Android. Sure enough, most of them will stay with iOS and apple will make more money without blowing it on making of an extra product.
What a shame, but makes sense economicaly.
Pretty much sums up my thoughts.
keep the 13 mini around, lower the price, discontinue the SE.
Release a new mini phone in 2023-2024... The current spec is plenty for the form factor.
I'll freely admit it serves a niche. But I think it could also cover the SE market as well; its a much better phone for not much more, and if they use "last year's" spec (or even keep it for 2 years and drop price) they can probably still make it profitable.
The SE form factor/camera/etc. really feels very old now. The 14 announcement (and lack of 14 mini) was my cue to buy a 13 mini.
Pity, but that's life. I have the 12 mini, upgrade every 3 years, so if there is no iPhone 15 mini ... I guess there will not be ... I'll get whatever version of the SE is available. Personally, I do not understand this obsession that "bigger is better" but I can see I'm in the minority.
Imagine that Apple added enough battery capacity so the mini form factor had the same battery life as the Pro Max form factor. It would be thicker, but not as thick as if you added a MagSafe battery pack as some already do.
Then, imagine that Apple used the thicker form factor to add the best cameras from the Pro Max phones, and also to use the thicker form factor to keep those cameras flush with the back, not protruding as at present.
Even though it would be thicker than the Pro Max, Apple could still call the smaller phone the Pro Mini. And a lot of people would buy it.
Then, imagine that Apple used the thicker form factor to add the best cameras from the Pro Max phones, and also to use the thicker form factor to keep those cameras flush with the back, not protruding as at present.
Even though it would be thicker than the Pro Max, Apple could still call the smaller phone the Pro Mini. And a lot of people would buy it.
First weekend with the 13 mini. WOW! Should have bought it sooner. So easy to use, most comfortable phone I’ve ever had, or at least that I can remember.
For me, 60hz is definitely noticeable, wish it was 120. The smaller screen obviously isn’t as nice as the bigger options but I guess you have to pick what’s more important to you. Using this phone with one hand, either one is worth it alone. Love the weight, very enjoyable so far.
For me, 60hz is definitely noticeable, wish it was 120. The smaller screen obviously isn’t as nice as the bigger options but I guess you have to pick what’s more important to you. Using this phone with one hand, either one is worth it alone. Love the weight, very enjoyable so far.
Probably a swiss thing (significantly higher median income but similar to even lower prices for apple devices compared to the rest of Europe. At least here in Austria you see a lot more SEs than Minis (also, worldwide sales numbers say that the SE sells at least double the numbers of the SE).
Imho, apple should double the prices over there to maximize their profit ;-)
Nobody... if you ignore than the 13 million people who've bought one.
I loooooooove my iPhone 13 mini
I had the 11 prior and it was just too big. The X/Xs was the sweet spot for me.
I had the 11 prior and it was just too big. The X/Xs was the sweet spot for me.
Shocker! It has to do with sales? Snark aside, I bought the 12 mini as soon as it was released after waiting years for a back-pocketable phone. I loved the 4 and 5 body style and was over the moon when it returned. Two years later, and battery at 80%, I upgraded to the 13 mini.
Why not alternate a mini with a plus, every other year? No one needs to upgrade every year. But then again, I was never main stream.
Why not alternate a mini with a plus, every other year? No one needs to upgrade every year. But then again, I was never main stream.
I really now wonder is Apple looking at taking the iPhone 13 mini and turning it into the iPhone SE 4? I think such a model is possible, especially with a bigger power button for a Touch ID sensor on the button itself and a larger, single back camera sensor.
3% of the sales is basically nobody. You and the people who “liked” your post should read the article next time.
But that's the whole point. They didn't buy it. Apple's strategy with the iPhone Mini failed. The competition played no role whatsoever in the Mini's failure. It had no competition and it still failed. So why are you even bringing up what it was going up against regarding Android?
I'll argue that the SE played a role in all this. You had a much cheaper small iPhone that was almost half the price. Apple would have been better off not updating the SE and instead offering a no frills Mini at $500.
I have never seen the Mini once in the public in the States. The SE form factor is so old that I can't tell you how many SE's I've seen. Clearly more iPhones that look like the SE than the Mini in my personal experiences.
The 'high end Mini' failed. Those days are over and are never coming back. If Apple is going to keep the Mini in the lineup it will be at a lower price point and they will update it every 2-3 years. I would just rebrand it as simply the 'iPhone Mini' and do what it takes to keep it at a starting price of $500 for years to come. It's a niche market but an important one still IMO. But that starting price of $700 is simply not going to work and Apple knows that now.
I like the SE 1st gen. form factor, but the price of the mini is 50% higher compared to the 1st gen. SE.
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I have an older iPod touch that my son plays with. He lost it a little while ago and we just found it in the couch cushions. Holy cow it is a delight to hold in one hand. Yes how times have changed as you said. I messed around with it for a bit and it was amazing to be able to reach everything one handed with one thumb. I will miss the mini…
I agree with you on this. I wish the Pro was available for all sizes.
Don’t worry Dark_omen is just feeling insecure that his Dodge Charger only makes up 4% of FCA Brand sales a.k.a. Nobody buys it
4% of 30 models. The iPhone 13 mini sold 3% of 3 models. Not even the same thing.
It had no competition and sold 13 million units. People who bought apple that wouldn't have bought apple otherwise.
Edit: Someone who has no interest in a small phone wouldn't buy a small phone just because it is cheaper. Because they can get a bigger phone also for cheap, that suits their needs more.
Is that wishful thinking on your part?
Otherwise, it'll be just a loss for apple. When it comes to replacing my iphone 12 mini in a few years and nobody is offering a small phone, then that requirement will be dropped. And suddenly, the fairphone will emerge as a strong competitor again - and then the same thing will happen that is the problem of the mac books.
Bigger phones are easier to produce, apple doesn't have the tech lead there and the competition can outprice them in terms of TCO.
The uncertainty of a future capable iphone mini is also one argument that speaks against buying an apple watch for me.
Apple made a marketing mistake. They focused on size instead of weight. The 13 is 173 grams, the mini is 141, which is a huge difference in the hand.
I challenge Apple for the next one, to lower the weight to 120 grams... and name it the iPhone Light.
I challenge Apple for the next one, to lower the weight to 120 grams... and name it the iPhone Light.
smaller on a phone is not a feature you pay for when even Apple itself is moving towards larger sizes. So to charge the same as the flagship model instead of saving some money on the model over the bigger on is a letdown. They are not doing us a favor by making it, we are doing them a favor by buying it. So charge less for it. They didnt, they lost, they took their ball and went home instead of making it the affordable alternative the the flagship model.