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There will NOT be a 2012 iMac release
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Wow, don't take my words too far now. I'm not getting into the details, but let me just simplify it:
Thread title: "There will NOT be a 2012 iMac release"
There will always be a yearly iMac release. There always have been and there will always will be. Recent rumors strongly point to an imminent release. This was just a thread to stir up the hornet's nest and it did so successfully for 11 pages.
That was not the point which you apparently did not get.
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Hats off to you sir! That was very well said and I appreciate the injection of some common sense into this discussion.
Really? There always has been an annual iMac release? I think you are forgetting they have not always existed. There always will be an annual iMac release? I think you fail to realize that eventually they will be replaced by something else.
Recent rumors are nothing more than rumors, sorry. They are interesting to read and speculate on, sure. However, they are not FACT. These rumors are not gospel my friend. Why do you take them as such? I think it is often a matter of believing what one wants to believe because it feels good. I guess I cannot blame you there but it still is what it is - dreaming.
If you had read earlier posts in this thread you'd know I did not start it to stir up a hornet's nest. I started it to encourage those wondering if they should buy now to use their own judgement and keep in mind that the rumors are just that - rumors. I have said so explicitly more than once here. People come here sometimes seeking advice and all they have been getting for a very long time is "wait or you are stupid, etc."
Well, back in May I got that advice myself here and I didn't buy it. Instead I bought the iMac I am presently typing this on. Good thing I didn't listen to the soothsayers who were so very sure about "imminent" release then or I'd still be using a noisy, ugly, windows, dual core, crappy screen, PC.
I have also never stated that everyone should not wait. I think for plenty of people waiting makes sense, including waiting until next year. There are plenty of people that can afford to wait considering what they are using currently. Some of the time these decisions center more around want than they do need.
Some people just can't bear to hear there might not be a new iMac this year and I am sorry but the fact is, there might not be one. Yes, there "might" be one but there also might not be one. People who need a computer now need to keep that in mind versus blindly accepting rumor as gospel. That is what I've been saying. That is what this thread is about.
The latest "rumor" is a retracted statement from a Faux News reporter. Maybe it actually means something but what are the odds? That organization isn't exactly known for the quality of its reporting.
you still don't get it ? No, not every possibilitie is EQUALLY PROBABLE. How can you even assume that ? Its exactly what I said about 50/50 lotto.
If you don't know anything about the molecular structure of lets say Ethers, and a chemists tells you: "Well we don't know for sure, but the most likely structure is R-O-R since thats what our theories tells us" and some uninformed guy comes over and says: "No its FR-O-R" to which the chemist replies, "well it MIGHT be, but thats higly improbable".
Who would you listen to ? the guy who knows SOME theory, or the guy who knows NONE.
Here we have people who know SOME theory (yes, an analyst who does this for a living and QUITE successfully, if I might add, knows SOME theory) and poeple who have no clue whatsoever about the topic since they havent presented any argument for their case (OP et al).
Why does the Informed guess become equal in value to the mentally challenged guess ?
Since they ALL are guesses, it might turn out in favour of the mentally challenged guess, but that doesnt make the mentally challenged guess any less mentally challenged, unless the mentally challenged guess is based upon something really clever, which we haven't heard so far.
There is a 0,00000n3 % chance that the Standard model is false, but if you DISBELIEVE the Std. Model and it does indeed turn out to be false, noone will say you were smart all along unless you make a pretty good case for youself first, just saying its wrong isn't intelligent, even if you turn out to be right.
Clearly now you are just trolling, or beyond logical reach.
If you don't know anything about the molecular structure of lets say Ethers, and a chemists tells you: "Well we don't know for sure, but the most likely structure is R-O-R since thats what our theories tells us" and some uninformed guy comes over and says: "No its FR-O-R" to which the chemist replies, "well it MIGHT be, but thats higly improbable".
Who would you listen to ? the guy who knows SOME theory, or the guy who knows NONE.
Here we have people who know SOME theory (yes, an analyst who does this for a living and QUITE successfully, if I might add, knows SOME theory) and poeple who have no clue whatsoever about the topic since they havent presented any argument for their case (OP et al).
Why does the Informed guess become equal in value to the mentally challenged guess ?
Since they ALL are guesses, it might turn out in favour of the mentally challenged guess, but that doesnt make the mentally challenged guess any less mentally challenged, unless the mentally challenged guess is based upon something really clever, which we haven't heard so far.
There is a 0,00000n3 % chance that the Standard model is false, but if you DISBELIEVE the Std. Model and it does indeed turn out to be false, noone will say you were smart all along unless you make a pretty good case for youself first, just saying its wrong isn't intelligent, even if you turn out to be right.
Clearly now you are just trolling, or beyond logical reach.
That is an excellent point right about now. I posted elsewhere recently that for those waiting they might as well wait for a substantial upgrade now, meaning 2013 regardless of what does or does not ship in 2012. This assumes of course one does not NEED an immediate replacement, not to be confused with WANT.
This issue is enough to call into question whether Apple might skip a 2012 refresh in favor of delivering much more powerful desktops next year. They already seem to have this in mind for the Pro, so maybe the iMac as well.
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This comparison is silly and the attempt at being intellectual in your delivery falls more than flat. Try coming up with something a little more substantive before you start insulting anyone else's intelligence will you?
The simple fact is that nobody knows with certainty if there will or will not be a new iMac release this year. I am sorry that news is so hard for you to understand and digest but that is just the way it is. No lectures about unrelated topics and statistics change this simple fact. So with that said, what is your point exactly? If I have to explain to you how this situation differs from a lottery, it is you who is struggling with logic here.
Ill take the bait.
What's your theory about this:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/connieg...esigns-for-imac-mac-pro-in-works-due-in-2013/
notably:
"Cook doesnt mention the iMac, and David Pogues reference in the New York Times to an update to the iMac in 2013 is incorrect, Apple said "
How can you both explain no 2012 iMac but a 2013 iMac ?
What's your theory about this:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/connieg...esigns-for-imac-mac-pro-in-works-due-in-2013/
notably:
"Cook doesnt mention the iMac, and David Pogues reference in the New York Times to an update to the iMac in 2013 is incorrect, Apple said "
How can you both explain no 2012 iMac but a 2013 iMac ?
:/ you really make me sad.
This situation is horribly different from lottery, your arguments arent.
Dismissing an argument without arguing why is just..... hopeless.
I'm not saying you are dumb, Im saying every word that comes in your posts are dumb
! Sorry I cba being more civilized.
Gl & Hf with you future here at Mac rumors ^^
This situation is horribly different from lottery, your arguments arent.
Dismissing an argument without arguing why is just..... hopeless.
I'm not saying you are dumb, Im saying every word that comes in your posts are dumb
! Sorry I cba being more civilized. Gl & Hf with you future here at Mac rumors ^^
I am supposed to invent theory based on a lack of information? lol
Sorry but I am not taking that silly bait.
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:/ you really make me sad.
This situation is horribly different from lottery, your arguments arent.
Dismissing an argument without arguing why is just..... hopeless.
I'm not saying you are dumb, Im saying every word that comes in your posts are dumb
Gl & Hf with you future here at Mac rumors ^^
Arguing for its own sake without any real point to make is just pointless. What is your point? Do you have some statistical probability of a release to share with us including the supporting data to illustrate your point?
I didn't think so.
I think dirtyharry is just afraid his iMac will be outdated too soon ad that he will regret what he did in may.
Maybe not all rumors about the 2012 iMac is rock solid. But the rumors are happening on a weekly basis now from various sources and from people well experienced in the rumor business. This is usually how it happens near a release, more and more rumors and facts such as low stock and models that are completely out start appear.
Now you cannot buy the 27" in many places and they are not re-stocking. Does this look like a situation apple like to keep until 2013? No!
I don't really understand your motifs for staying here really dirtyharry. You have bought your machine, you don't need to pay attention to new rumors, your not gonna gette machine anyway. Why not leave it be and keep you silly theories to yourself. It's obvious people don't want to hear them. They are less likely and less positive, so they are pointless to throw around.
Maybe not all rumors about the 2012 iMac is rock solid. But the rumors are happening on a weekly basis now from various sources and from people well experienced in the rumor business. This is usually how it happens near a release, more and more rumors and facts such as low stock and models that are completely out start appear.
Now you cannot buy the 27" in many places and they are not re-stocking. Does this look like a situation apple like to keep until 2013? No!
I don't really understand your motifs for staying here really dirtyharry. You have bought your machine, you don't need to pay attention to new rumors, your not gonna gette machine anyway. Why not leave it be and keep you silly theories to yourself. It's obvious people don't want to hear them. They are less likely and less positive, so they are pointless to throw around.
I knew I'd hear this. If a new iMac line shipped tomorrow I would not regret my purchase at all. I'm very happy with it. Something else newer would not change how it serves me so well and will for a long time.
The restocking thing has come up repeatedly since May and yet they are still available and selling all over the place. I don't buy that.
Why wouldn't I remain interested in all things Apple? I am a very happy Apple customer. I am interested in new products from them including the next desktop computers. I won't need one for a long time now but I am still interested in following what comes out between now and when I do need my next computer. There is also a lot more to Mac Rumors than just rumors. This place is a great resource for information on Macs, OS X, other Apple products, gaming on the Mac (a particular interest of mine) and more.
I'm sorry you do not welcome my presence or differing views from your own but I have learned a long time ago that you can never hope to please everyone in this life. You are best off being your own authentic self and let the chips fall where they may.
Other people besides yourself are in fact interested in this topic and support what I've been saying. Check recent previous posts for proof. It is worthwhile to discuss both possibilities here, particularly for people who are wondering if they should buy now or not, keeping their own unique individual situation in mind of course.
Are you suggesting a bumped ivy or haswell? Cpus appropriate to an ivy imac came out May 31st. Some ivy bridge i3s are hitting in December. Haswell is scheduled for the second half of 2013. Given that Haswell would be the next true generation, "soon" is a pretty big stretch. We're not likely to see an imac based on them for roughly a year. It's not like Sandy where they had something out the door in January then issued a near immediate recall.
Now this from the front page presently of Mac Rumors is what I call a credible rumor:
"According to a report from The Wall Street Journal, the next iPhone -- to be announced next week -- will support 4G LTE networks around the world, though it won't be available on every carrier."
A report from a credible news organization like the Wall Street Journal can at least be taken seriously, unlike Joe Shmoe's Apple Blog, etc.
I have not been seeing rumors of this quality I'll call it for the iMac. If I was, I might be singing a different tune here and if I do I just might change my tune. So far for all the complaining nobody here has linked anything approaching this particular rumor for the iPhone, related to the iMac.
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I'm sorry to disappoint you but no, I really would not. It's been great having this Mac since May. There will be no regrets here. If anything I do look forward to how amazingly powerful the next Mac I get, years from now, will be.
Sometimes I think you want me to be sad David. lol
"According to a report from The Wall Street Journal, the next iPhone -- to be announced next week -- will support 4G LTE networks around the world, though it won't be available on every carrier."
A report from a credible news organization like the Wall Street Journal can at least be taken seriously, unlike Joe Shmoe's Apple Blog, etc.
I have not been seeing rumors of this quality I'll call it for the iMac. If I was, I might be singing a different tune here and if I do I just might change my tune. So far for all the complaining nobody here has linked anything approaching this particular rumor for the iPhone, related to the iMac.
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You would ... you would ...
I'm sorry to disappoint you but no, I really would not. It's been great having this Mac since May. There will be no regrets here. If anything I do look forward to how amazingly powerful the next Mac I get, years from now, will be.
Sometimes I think you want me to be sad David. lol
If that turns out to be true about the next gen Intel tech, I wonder what the plan is for the Mac Pro? I would have thought a big upgrade to them would wait for that. By the same token, I would not be completely surprised if they held out for that with the iMac line or even replaced iMac with a new desktop altogether. After all, Apple is known for innovation.
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Oh, I got it and I get yours too smart guy.
So now you accept rumors? I thought you insisted on verifiable statements issued only from Apple?
I'm sorry to disappoint you but no, I really would not. It's been great having this Mac since May. There will be no regrets here. If anything I do look forward to how amazingly powerful the next Mac I get, years from now, will be.
Sometimes I think you want me to be sad David. lol
You know you would regret your 2011 iMac, you already are ... and the care and "skill" you put in writing all your posts is the better proof that you're lying ... even to yourself ...
It's what all of the tech sites have down as far as roadmaps. In terms of the Mac Pro, Sandy is currently out. Ivy Bridge E should be a little ahead of consumer Haswell, but there's really nothing to gain from Ivy that you wouldn't get from Sandy as far as I can tell. You would pick up the option of 10 core cpus (up from 8 with Sandy), but Apple has always avoided the most expensive cpu options. Options for usb3 and thunderbolt would be the same as Sandy E. What you have to remember is that workstation chipsets and reference board designs do not change every cycle. The idea that they're waiting for ivy seems baseless to me, as nothing exciting is coming at that time. I think it was just pushed aside or previously slated for discontinuation.
As far as the imac is concerned, it seems to be doing okay. I doubt a true successor will come to that anytime soon. I also doubt the idea of an "imac pro" as going to a more powerful cpu would mean a different chipset and socket type just to support that high end model.
Quick question: what would be a predicted cut off point to say we wont see an Imac this year?
I wont an Imac and wish Apple would announce one soon, but there is a point where I would simple buy one, but not sure how long to wait?
Mid October? Late October? Possibly November?
I wont an Imac and wish Apple would announce one soon, but there is a point where I would simple buy one, but not sure how long to wait?
Mid October? Late October? Possibly November?
I think possibly november but its very very unlikely that we wont see an 2012 iMac. Simply because Tim Cook excluded the iMac from the MacPro comment. That would mean either we see no iMac in 2012 AND 2013 or there is a new one in 2012...
IMO in beginning/mid oct there will be the iMac
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