There will NOT be a 2012 iMac release

[Dirtyharry50]

This just in...

http://www.computerworld.com/s/arti...s_at_iPhone_5?source=CTWNLE_nlt_os_2012-09-06

No mention of any iMacs being announced but plenty of talk about the iPhone and iOS.

Hmm. Well we won't need to wait long to see what transpires on this day coming up.

 

[Lankyman]

Well after finished reading that, I can only conclude that on the contrary, you are indeed either perverse or sadistic. 😛

Or maybe some people need to get a life and regain some perspective. What I see time and again is want rather than need. 🙄

 

[forty2j]

When Sept 12 comes and goes without an iMac, only one person on these boards will be truly surprised. ;-)

 

[Dirtyharry50]

Or maybe some people need to get a life and regain some perspective. What I see time and again is want rather than need. 🙄

Very good point.

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When Sept 12 comes and goes without an iMac, only one person on these boards will be truly surprised. ;-)

Who would that be? You? lol

Somehow I have to believe that if the unexpected happened you'd be here with plenty to say about how you knew it all along, etc. even though of course there is no way that you could.

So does this mean you're committing to October for sure? The tea leaves currently say October?

 

[segovius]

What I see time and again is want rather than need. 🙄

Can't blame them 100% though - 'want' is the only model Apple panders to now.

 

[eldho]

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The tea leaves currently say October?

Thanks again Dirtyharry for a good laugh🙂

 

[forty2j]

Somehow I have to believe that if the unexpected happened you'd be here with plenty to say about how you knew it all along, etc. even though of course there is no way that you could.

So does this mean you're committing to October for sure? The tea leaves currently say October?

So, let's be clear. What I "knew all along" is that it's coming sometime in 2012. I can deduce this much from the available articles. I won't be convinced otherwise unless something catastrophic happens in China.

Anything beyond "sometime in 2012" is truly reading the tea leaves, until we hear something from a reliable source (like a Jim Dalrymple). I could assign probabilities to every date through the rest of the year.. and if I did so, iPhone Event Date and iPhone Launch Date would have the lowest probabilities, even lower than Christmas Day.

So yes, I'm pretty committed to October. I like Oct 9. If it comes out on the 9th, I win the Internet. (If it comes out on Sept. 12, I guess edry wins the Internet.) But if the iPad Mini event is on/around that time, then I start liking Oct 23 much more. This is based on nothing more than Apple's history and known preference of spacing out unrelated products, and while this is a firm base, it isn't infallible.

 

[jabbmic]

just bought a Hp omni 27" 1020eo for 900$..
cant wait anymore and i dont belive in this bs rumors!
i recomend u guys to do the same, to hell with them and their old imac´s
🙂

 

[tuxon86]

just bought a Hp omni 27" 1020eo for 900$..
cant wait anymore and i dont belive in this bs rumors!
i recomend u guys to do the same, to hell with them and their old imac´s
🙂

Trollollollo trollollo trollollollollo...

 

[Dirtyharry50]

So, let's be clear. What I "knew all along" is that it's coming sometime in 2012. I can deduce this much from the available articles. I won't be convinced otherwise unless something catastrophic happens in China.

Anything beyond "sometime in 2012" is truly reading the tea leaves, until we hear something from a reliable source (like a Jim Dalrymple). I could assign probabilities to every date through the rest of the year.. and if I did so, iPhone Event Date and iPhone Launch Date would have the lowest probabilities, even lower than Christmas Day.

So yes, I'm pretty committed to October. I like Oct 9. If it comes out on the 9th, I win the Internet. (If it comes out on Sept. 12, I guess edry wins the Internet.) But if the iPad Mini event is on/around that time, then I start liking Oct 23 much more. This is based on nothing more than Apple's history and known preference of spacing out unrelated products, and while this is a firm base, it isn't infallible.

Okay, so despite how late into the year it is getting you still cling to the notion that surely "sometime" in 2012 there will be new iMacs. You say you like Oct. 9 but then mention Sept. 12 as a possibility and lastly don't rule out Oct. 23. I would agree with you about these guesses not being infallible.

So we'll have to wait and see now what happens on these big days: Sept. 12, Oct. 9 and Oct. 23. It's good to have this stuff noted here for future reference. I appreciate you clarifying your position on the dates.

As for me, I'm sticking with "none of the above."

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Thanks again Dirtyharry for a good laugh🙂

My pleasure! 😀

 

[AlphaMF]

Lulz dirty harry, noone "knows", and the only one pretending to "know" is you.

The reason it seems like you pretend to "know" is how you ridicule every other opinion but your own, and how you go against what every analyst have said so far. I haven't read a single analyst that agrees with you, do you have any such datapoints ?

Actually by saying "no 2012 iMac" you are also saying: "no 2013 iMac". (because of the clarification made by Tim Cook way back when)

Most people really would find this very improbable (not impossible), and are giving reasons as to why it is improbable, you on the other hand have no arguments whatsoever, or atleast have not presented any yet. Yes it's true, that if the probability of a release is equal for each calendar day, and we assume the probabilities to not change as days pass, then the chance of a 2012 release is diminished by each day.

Although this mathematical model can hold true, it is in this world setting incomplete. You leave every analyst, every blogger and the apple statement out of the equation, so the equation becomes a falsehood, and your statement becomes extremely improbable.

- NOT impossible. It's always possible to reach the wrong conclusion even if the method reaching that conclusion is based on falsehood or the results are misinterpreted.

If you turn out to be right, it will by no means be because you were smarter than anyone else, or had better insight, forsight or any sight for that matter.

It will be, because one of the infinite monkeys finally typed the full lenght of shakespear.

And I'm really sorry to say, it will not be much to be proud of 🙂!

 

[Occamsrazr]

Sounds like sour grapes to me... Just because you guessed wrong doesn't mean that everyone else is an idiot - even if they guessed right.

Some guesses are more educated than others. Guess you haven't figured that out yet.

 

[mrmarts]

just bought a Hp omni 27" 1020eo for 900$..
cant wait anymore and i dont belive in this bs rumors!
i recomend u guys to do the same, to hell with them and their old imac´s
🙂

I would never choose a hp over a Mac as soon as you get it, it is loaded with a ton of crap ware I would choose a dell but hey what do I know I left dell back in 2010 and am a apple fan boy for life. 😛

 

[forty2j]

Okay, so despite how late into the year it is getting you still cling to the notion that surely "sometime" in 2012 there will be new iMacs.

The reports that came out in July discussing Sept/Oct (and leaning towards Oct) don't make any less sense now than they did then, and nothing has refuted them since. One of the primary sources has clarified his position, but you can tell his actual launch dates originated from a dartboard (much like ours), but his fundamental message (screen manufacturing delays, still coming Sept/Oct) is consistent.

My deduction skills actually tell me that were it not for the manufacturing issues with the new screen, we would have had the 2012 iMac on Mountain Lion Day.

then mention Sept. 12 as a possibility

Actually, I don't. Someone else does. Since that's iPhone Event Date, I set the odds somewhere close to 0% for that particular day.

 

[edry.hilario]

dirtyharry did you see the last imac post on macrumors. FOX NEWS! ok... fox news is saying that the imacs are coming so can you stop with this thread, youre just pissed that your imac that you just bought not too long ago is gonna become "last years computer" stop it with the "no imac in 2012" because you know its gonna happen you just dont want it to be true. Just remember our bet!!!! ok.

 

[Irishman]

Absolutely and it is about time the rumor that there will NOT be a refresh got equal time. Summer is nearly over. The year is well past half over, etc.

Apple does not historically announce updates BEFORE they announce them, so expecting to hear about it (before you hear about it officially at an event) is ridiculous!

 

[Scrub175]

But to be fair the article has been changed and the author is back tracking.

 

[Irishman]

The OP is absolutely correct that the more time goes by, the less likely we'll see a refreshed iMac in 2012. As we move into the December time frame, the likelihood falls to zero.

But that doesn't mean that the chance of a refresh between now and the end of the year is close to zero. While it's true that the vast majority of people posting here don't have any "inside" information, industry analysts are different. Their reputations and livelihoods depend on the accuracy of their predictions, so they look for clues in places like supply chains that aren't readily accessible to most of us. That doesn't mean that they're always right, just that what they say is often more credible.

Based on everything I've read, I think that a September or October iMac refresh is a reasonable possibility, at least enough for me to wait, because I can. However, I think that it's just as reasonable for those who can't wait or don't believe that there'll be a new iMac this year to go buy one now or get a laptop and separate display instead.

I have to speak up here, because it's clear that neither of you understand the business of device releases. The longer time passes without a refresh, the MORE likely a release will be sooner than later, not LESS likely, IF Apple plans on continuing to build and sell iMacs.

Why? Because as long as Apple sees iMacs as a useful part of their business, they will update them when it makes sense to. If a year or more passes without simple proc and gpu and i/o updates, this makes it more likely that Apple has something more planned for the eventual updates. It takes more time and planning to produce a more thorough update. (the most recent example being the retina MBP). If Apple has not decided what role a certain device will play in its future plans, it's more likely to get a proc/gpu, i/o updates like the Mac Pros last time around.

 

[Dirtyharry50]

dirtyharry did you see the last imac post on macrumors. FOX NEWS! ok... fox news is saying that the imacs are coming so can you stop with this thread, youre just pissed that your imac that you just bought not too long ago is gonna become "last years computer" stop it with the "no imac in 2012" because you know its gonna happen you just dont want it to be true. Just remember our bet!!!! ok.

Faux News is a reputable source now? Oh, that is rich. Thank you for a good laugh!

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Apple does not historically announce updates BEFORE they announce them, so expecting to hear about it (before you hear about it officially at an event) is ridiculous!

Where did I ever say I expected to hear about it? Oh, that's right. I didn't!

I do not expect to hear about it this year in fact as I have been saying!

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My deduction skills actually tell me...

My comedic skills actually tell me you are one very funny guy when you say things like that. 😀

 

[edry.hilario]

Faux News is a reputable source now? Oh, that is rich. Thank you for a good laugh!

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Where did I ever say I expected to hear about it? Oh, that's right. I didn't!

I do not expect to hear about it this year in fact as I have been saying!

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My comedic skills actually tell me you are one very funny guy when you say things like that. 😀

i already said remember our bet... thats all ok

 

[Dirtyharry50]

i already said remember our bet... thats all ok

What is it that you will give me when I win? I forget now. 😉

 

[edry.hilario]

What is it that you will give me when I win? I forget now. 😉

You get to make fun of me and call me crazy and whatever you want even delete my account 😎 but if I win you must post a new thread saying how wrong you were and how kinda dumb it was for you to think this way. Plus I get to post pictures of my new iMac order and rub it on your face without you getting upset. You can add to my cause if I lose. Ok ?

 

[CoreyLahey]

When Sept 12 comes and goes without an iMac, only one person on these boards will be truly surprised. ;-)

Your recent posts make me wish DirtyHarry started telling you about his little six friends : )

 

[Icaras]

You get to make fun of me and call me crazy and whatever you want even delete my account 😎 but if I win you must post a new thread saying how wrong you were and how kinda dumb it was for you to think this way. Plus I get to post pictures of my new iMac order and rub it on your face without you getting upset. You can add to my cause if I lose. Ok ?

I'm quite sure the OP will eat his words soon enough. This entire thread has been one big joke.

 

[Croker]

I'm quite sure the OP will eat his words soon enough. This entire thread has been one big joke.

Out of interest, why has the entire thread been "one big joke"? DirtyHarry's opening post is hardly unreasonable. Without wanting to speak for him (or her), in the opening post they make the quite simple assertion that saying "there will be no new iMac in 2012" is as likely as anything else. Not that there definitely will not be a new iMac in 2012; just that, given the paucity of information available, no rumour has real weight. Many of the posters here would do well to remember that.

What some people in this thread seem to have failed to grasp is that, for all the conjecture, informed gossip, rumour, and every bit of nonsense inbetween, THERE IS ACTUALLY NO SOLID INFORMATION AS TO WHEN THE NEXT IMAC WILL BE RELEASED. People are stating seemingly logical theories and statements as to why the new iMac will be released in 2012, but no-one - ABSOLUTELY NO-ONE - has posted hard fact on a release date. Where's the drama in actually saying so? It's not like Apple will refuse to release a new iMac because some people doubt them (if they do, then maybe they should move into the religion game, rather than the tech industry).

Anyway, if the new iMac comes out this year, great. If it doesn't, bummer. The main problem here (for me, at any rate) is the absolutely insane approach of taking almost any rumour whatsoever at face value and assuming this means that there will absolutely definitely be an iMac released this year. e.g. "Kuo have said it's coming this year, so it must be true!" Well, no, not necessarily. If one is released, it won't be because Kuo have said so!

What is the problem with actually saying this out loud, by the way? It really does seem that some people here simply cannot bear to consider the notion that there might not be a new iMac this year. Why? I know this site is MacRumors, not MacFacts, but Jesus, I think some people need to calm down a little. It'll come when it comes, and no amount of "informed speculation" or "deductive reasoning" will help. You've just got to wait for it. You might not like it, but that, at least, really is a fact.