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If this isn't reason enough to wean yourself off Google products as soon as possible I don't know what is. There are great replacements for almost all google services. With the exception of YouTube, to which you can do as I do, and create a Google account exclusively for YouTube (and nothing else) using a non-google email.

Google Photos... when you have years of history and indexing on Google Photos, it's a pretty awesome experience. If I could find something similar, and be able to migrate 100gb of photos/videos over to it, I would. But Google Photos is tough to replace when you've been using it for years.
 
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Relax guys, as many pointed out in comments to the previous thread, they're just taking a holiday break. They do this every year.

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ominous and nefarious at the same time.

I know on the Mac I object to some things google wants:
1) full disk access for updater
2) automation for system events for updater
3) accessibility control your computer for updater
4) camera and microphone for chrome
5) bluetooth for Chrome

Which hey, maybe they all need (except I turned access off and things are working just fine). suspicious much?
lol Some of those are meant for services like video conferencing; you need to give permission for camera and mic if you want those services to work. Paranoid much?
 
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Interesting that TikTok's App Privacy label is extremely basic yet they are under the most scrutiny. Is the scrutiny due to...

a) Them being owned by a Chinese company
b) The backend data processing in China (Is this even true?)
c) FB/Google concerns with an up and coming app that has taken away millions of eyeballs?
d) none of the above
 
I'm sure they have their lawyers going over everything to see what they have to fess up to and what they can keep hiding due to technicalities 🤣
 
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No sign of privacy labels for Google's iOS apps? There's no sign of privacy either. Makes sense...
 
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Google Photos... when you have years of history and indexing on Google Photos, it's a pretty awesome experience. If I could find something similar, and be able to migrate 100gb of photos/videos over to it, I would. But Google Photos is tough to replace when you've been using it for years.
It might go away or start costing more or something. I actually trust Google not to share my data. I just don't trust them not to deprecate whatever services I'm using. My photo and music libraries have been stored locally on my Mac in iPhoto and iTunes (now Photos and Music) since 2003. Apple has provided full support the whole time, no effort on my end. Meanwhile Google has had, what, 5 different music services created then killed?

To be fair, Google's services are in the cloud, so they take upkeep. But iCloud has also been more consistent than theirs. And ironically, the local storage has felt easier than dealing with cloud stuff. iCloud deleted all my notes one day for reasons I still don't know.
 
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If this isn't reason enough to wean yourself off Google products as soon as possible I don't know what is. There are great replacements for almost all google services. With the exception of YouTube, to which you can do as I do, and create a Google account exclusively for YouTube (and nothing else) using a non-google email.
Even if you trust Google 0%, nothing wrong with having a burner Google account for Gmail, YouTube, Voice, random logins, and any non-sensitive things in Docs. IDK what those being tied together matters if nothing has real data on it.
 
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lol Some of those are meant for services like video conferencing; you need to give permission for camera and mic if you want those services to work. Paranoid much?
Some but not all. Chrome shouldn't need full disk access. It's very invasive on Windows since it has a built-in full system virus scanner for some reason.
 
I have no issues using Google services. I may rely on Apple for the hardware, but Google services definitely come in handy in my day to day life.
They may be a little sneaky with data collection, but no one forces me to use them. And their security is just as good as Apple.
Not sure what to say about the part I highlighted. I'm guessing you're serious? 😂😁
 
That's the illusion with Google, privacy. There is no privacy because that is their business model: to know any and everything about every person and to monetize every last bit. The unfortunate consequence is that the "don't be evil" mantra has faded away. If you aren't actively combating tactics that "could" be evil, the slippery slope finds you at the bottom with pervasive and invasive intrusion while trampling upon users rights. Can you go somewhere else? Yes, but we all need to be able to make an educated and informed decision about our privacy.

With the current climate, the knee jerk reaction for undesirable activity would normally result in de-platforming, but the tech giants wouldn't be rude to each other unless there is a monetary dispute. It's interesting that the same evils of the Industrial Age will likely translate to the Tech Age with us all regretting our lack of concern over basic and essential privacy.
 
If this isn't reason enough to wean yourself off Google products as soon as possible I don't know what is. There are great replacements for almost all google services. With the exception of YouTube, to which you can do as I do, and create a Google account exclusively for YouTube (and nothing else) using a non-google email.
You can view YouTube, download videos, and get the latest videos from channels you care about using a RSS feed app, all without creating a YouTube account.

There was no need to create a single account for Google to mine from.
 
Google Photos... when you have years of history and indexing on Google Photos, it's a pretty awesome experience. If I could find something similar, and be able to migrate 100gb of photos/videos over to it, I would. But Google Photos is tough to replace when you've been using it for years.
Using Google Photos is worth allowing Google to data mine everything they can about you, privacy be damned?
 
Google's privacy policy is actually very straightforward:
You know, we know. And we know you know.
Google is nothing more than a tech drug dealer. They get naive people hooked on their products. And when people find out the damage they have been doing to themselves from using the Google drug, they start rationalizing why they need to stay with Google etc.
 
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They're probably still trying to figure out what should be on the list and what they can adjust to remove some things.
Realistically, yes, this is probably why. That said, it’s not like they were broadsided, but Google’s iOS apps have always received more neglect from Google than Office for Mac did from Microsoft (and that neglect got pretty bad at times). Remember how Google basically didn’t upgrade Google Earth for iOS for, like, five years?

Even the apps Google updates frequently rarely get support for new iOS features. I do software QA for a living and have a pretty good idea about the length of time release cycles typically take for Fortune 500 companies. I swear, the only way Google and Facebook can push out updates every two weeks is if they’re pushing out a separate release for each and every bug or storyboard item, no matter how small. Then they go and take a year or two to add dark mode to their apps (despite that being basically a one-checkbox feature in Interface Builder, if you’re using Storyboards*, and, if you’re doing modern iOS development and you can at all help it, you really should be using Storyboards). And I know I can’t blame it on the QA cycle taking too long, a change like that should be suitably tested with automated targeted regression GUI tests.
* Guaranteed, Facebook ISN’T using Storyboards, they’re likely using React Native programmatically for the GUI for their iOS applications.
 
I highly doubt it, because people don't even know their free iCloud account comes with an email address. Unlike Gmail, iCloud emails even come with support when you don't know how to do something. Pretty much everyone uses Gmail for email accounts.

I use my iCloud email for everything, and my email address still ends in @Mac.com, and I will not have anything to do with, and refuse to use Gmail. I have never had a Gmail account, and never wanted one. I remembered the whole 1GB free thing they did with the invites, and of course, even back then they said they had bots crawling through your email and showed ads. Back then nobody cared, and nobody will care, or they will only pretend to care now. I saw this from years ago, and still refuse to this day to use a Gmail account.

The thing that is ultra scary is that many businesses use Gmail (not G Suite, but a run of the mill Gmail account) which can contain private client information, such as a small doctors office, or lawyers office.
You wrote: "The thing that is ultra scary is that many businesses use Gmail (not G Suite, but a run of the mill Gmail account) which can contain private client information, such as a small doctors office, or lawyers office."

I also find that discouraging; and I try to avoid such businesses and organizations who are so careless.
 
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I honestly doubt the general consumer even gives a ****.
My experience has been the opposite of that. For years, I have been telling friends and family how FB, et. al. have been parsing their messages, postings, and all other info they can possible obtain without asking permission and outright lying when they get caught. I got a lot of kind smiles and nods in return... yet this week I know of at least 8 of the folks who have quit Messenger, FB, and WhatsApp because of the disclosure they got after their updates. That is telling, from what I can see.

Once a company (not a friend or loved one) tell you in black and white that they dig that deeply into your personal life, I think its a huge turn-off for a lot of people. I'm pretty sure if they caught their local insurance agent, Best Buy employee, or babysitter going through their trash can and pulling out private info, they would balk to go there again. How would you feel if your mail carrier opened every piece of mail you received, then sold that info to your neighbors?

Thats what FB is doing. And I promise you Google is far worse.
 
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