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Why Apple doesn't enforce devs with deadline and removal from AppStore if they don't comply? If they want to get the job done, be more strict about it.. Not sure if Apple care either that much as Google.. Wished I can find alternative to Google Photos, so I can delete the 3 Google apps I use?! After June, I'll not need Photos anymore.. til then..
The truth is, Apple needs the Google apps. Imagine the backlash Apple woult get if they removed every single Google app from iOS. Sure, some would (rightfully) complement them for that move but a lot of people just don't care about privacy, they just want their Google apps. The average user needs his Gmail/YouTube/...
 
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That's not how these companies aggregate their data. Data without a face is almost useless to them, they will, using some metric or metadata, link a data-set with a human being. Just because a google account has none of your personal information doesn't mean the company doesn't already have a file with your name on it from some point in the past when you did, and all it takes is 1 algorithmic connection to link that existing and growing profile on you with that google account and it may as well have your name all over it because in Google's eyes they already know it's you.
Correct, except Google don't even need to know if you're "you" or you're Mr Anonymous. They get their revenue through advertising and they target their advertising based on your activity and the connections that you make. That doesn't require any real knowledge of who "you" are.
 
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You’re giving an advertising company control over your life. And no you have no control over that data.

Over my life? I don’t think so. And you think they’re lying when putting those controls in place?
 
It's hilarious to read the words „Google“ and „Privacy“ in same sentence.
Let's play with opposite words:

Cold - Hot
Big - Small
Bright - Dark
Love - Hate
Privacy - Google
 
Why Apple doesn't enforce devs with deadline and removal from AppStore if they don't comply? If they want to get the job done, be more strict about it.. Not sure if Apple care either that much as Google.. Wished I can find alternative to Google Photos, so I can delete the 3 Google apps I use?! After June, I'll not need Photos anymore.. til then..
Because it isn't against Apple's rules. It says that they will have to comply when they do an app update and pass App Store Review. That may never happen for many older apps. Otherwise they would have to delete probably 75% of apps from the app store which isn't good for Apples business.
 
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Because it isn't against Apple's rules. It says that they will have to comply when they do an app update and pass App Store Review. That may never happen for many older apps. Otherwise they would have to delete probably 75% of apps from the app store which isn't good for Apples business.
yes, so the bottom line is: privacy is half-backed and ruled over due someone's interest, no matter what. Bummer. Like there's not much choice accept to opt out of the whole mobile thing..
 
Why can't apple fix iOS to protect users privacy? Like setting the default search setting to something else besides Google. Does the "nutrition label" for safari warn about this?
 
But the more I test the more I find how interlinked functions are. Most recent was Battery Charging Optimizing... tied in to Maps tracking.
Makes me wonder just what is missing - omission - in these disclosures
So do you have any proof to backup your claim that Apple doesn't disclose everything that they collect for data in their applications or are you just speculating? Your first comment was that Apple needs to practice what they preach which they undoubtably are doing by listing what data all their apps collect. Now your saying they aren"t telling the truth about what they collect. An accusation like that needs some sort of evidence or it"s considered an opinion not fact.
 
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So do you have any proof to backup your claim that Apple doesn't disclose everything that they collect for data in their applications or are you just speculating? Your first comment was that Apple needs to practice what they preach which they undoubtably are doing by listing what data all their apps collect. Now your saying they aren"t telling the truth about what they collect. An accusation like that needs some sort of evidence or it"s considered an opinion not fact.

Agree with this 1,000%. However, couldn't this statement also be applied to Google? I realize Google has yet to update their apps with the info, but they're very transparent on literally every other platform. So isn't taking this delay by Google as an assumption they have something to hide also just that - an opinion?
 
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Agree with this 1,000%. However, couldn't this statement also be applied to Google? I realize Google has yet to update their apps with the info, but they're very transparent on literally every other platform. So isn't taking this delay by Google as an assumption they have something to hide also just that - an opinion?
I never said they have anything to hide. I"m sure they'll disclose everything just like Facebook did..
 
I never said they have anything to hide. I"m sure they'll disclose everything just like Facebook did..
Yeah, sorry about that, I was speaking more in general to this entire thread, not necessarily to you specifically. I wanted to quote your post because it was very well said and an important concept for this entire discussion.
 
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As of December 8, Apple has been requiring developers submitting new apps and app updates to provide privacy label information that outlines the data that each app collects from users when it is installed.

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Many app developers, such as Facebook, have complied and now include the privacy labels alongside their apps, but there's one notable outlier -- Google.

Google has not updated its major apps like Gmail, Google Maps, Chrome, and YouTube since December 7 or before, and most Google apps have to date have not been updated with the Privacy Label feature.

The Google Translate, Google Authenticator, Motion Stills, Google Play Movies, and Google Classroom apps do include privacy labels even though they have not been updated recently, but Google's search app, Google Maps, Chrome, Waze, YouTube, Google Drive, Google Photos, Google Home, Gmail, Google Docs, Google Assistant, Google Sheets, Google Calendar, Google Slides, Google One, Google Earth, YouTube Music, Hangouts, Google Tasks, Google Meet, Google Pay, PhotoScan, Google Voice, Google News, Gboard, Google Podcasts, and more do not display the information.

On January 5, Google told TechCrunch that the data would be added to its iOS apps "this week or the next week," but both this week and the next week have come and gone with no update. It has now been well over a month since Google last updated its apps.

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When it said that an update was coming soon, Google gave no reason for the delay, and still has not offered up an explanation for the lengthy period of time between app updates. Google typically pushes updates much more frequently across its catalog of apps, and its Android apps have continued to be updated regularly.

There has been speculation that Google is hesitant to provide the privacy label data because of the negative feedback that other companies like Facebook have received, but there's still no confirmed explanation.


Apple implemented App Privacy information in iOS 14.3 to provide customers with upfront details about what data an app collects from them so they can make an informed choice when opting to install an app. App developers are required to self-report privacy information in the App Store, and developers must identify all data collection and use cases.

Article Link: There's Still No Sign of Privacy Labels for Most Google iOS Apps


YouTube is broken on AppleTV. I hope Google acts quickly!
 
So do you have any proof to backup your claim that Apple doesn't disclose everything that they collect for data in their applications or are you just speculating? Your first comment was that Apple needs to practice what they preach which they undoubtably are doing by listing what data all their apps collect. Now your saying they aren"t telling the truth about what they collect. An accusation like that needs some sort of evidence or it"s considered an opinion not fact.

There is a huge difference between app claims and apps that are tied into the OS by the OS designer. In this case; Apple. What I am finding is the claims in the apps don't paint the whole picture for Apple apps. There are functions within the OS that are totally excluded from the claims as they don't route as an App Store app. What I am finding for Apple Apps (and functions) is that the item may not work as designed unless you have "X" setting(s) active. Want to use "A"? Then you have to have "B", "C", and "D" turned on even if it is a function you would not normally use or assume is needed. Heck, just look at Maps. The 5 App Privacy items listed are far from painting an actual picture of what is used / collected. You need to dig into iOS/iPadOS to get these. Want your location to work on Maps? Or other Apps? You need Location Services. "Location Services allows apps and websites (including Maps, Camera, Weather, and other apps) to use information from cellular1, Wi-Fi2, Global Positioning System (GPS)3 networks, and Bluetooth4 to determine your approximate location". Sorry, that claim in the app, while nice to see, paints a far from complete picture. With each update to the OS, this expands.

The claims in the apps is a nice to have. Give it time and this will become another mostly ignored piece of info for the general consumer. I would rather see some type of test result from Apple that shows what an app truly uses. Perhaps even a permission system that asks the first time it calls for it.

Hmmm ... where have I seen that before?
 
The reason it's called Alphabet is because they share your data with the FBI, CIA, BATFE, DEA, DOD...
 
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