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I have been hearing that this is coming to Utah for a year. Apple seems to be involved more and more in the “vaporware business” even with their OS systems. They announce then get everyone excited then put an *coming later this fall or coming in a future update.” I am a BIG Apple fan but the last 3 to 4 years Apple has phoned in their updates (hardware and software). They need a fresh vision and take more risks. They have become way to predictable and they have their hands in too many product lines so they can’t be the best. They’re just mediocre now in most areas or playing copy or catch up with others. Steve warned about being involved in too many product lines. It’s time for Timmy to retire. Sorry for the soap box.
 
Who cares? You can’t use it anywhere. I have tried dozens of bars, shops, grocery stores, even 7/11 and gas stations. Nobody even knows what this even is. It’s going to be years before you can leave your wallet at home even if your state support’s this
I'd still never leave my wallet home. Hopefully once it is mainstream I won't need to get it out very often, but I would still have it. Same as I don't understand people who don't have the CC physically on them that use AP. They musn't have ever been introduced to Murphy
 
Was very excited about this at first but then read a hypothetical realistic scenario someone described.
The cops could get all friendly and say “My handheld scanner doesn’t seem to be working. Would you mind handing over your phone? I’ll just quickly scan on my in-car scanner. Can you please also unlock it so I don’t lose the app? Otherwise I need to file some report for missing documents and we’d need to get a hearing etc. Instead, if you just give me the phone, we’d be done in 5 mins.”

Of course everyone thinks they are not gullible but cops do this for a living. They can word it much better to make it sound convincing.

I've said this 100 times. Cops writing traffic tickets or doing crash reports really have zero interest in what's in your phone. Most of them wouldn't know what to do with what they found IF they went looking through it and wouldn't have the time or want the hassle of following up on it. If you hadn't noticed, not too many people want to be cops these days, and the ones left are stuck chasing their tails from call to call.

If ANYONE believed this sort of schtick from a beat cop, they're all ready getting caught by some other alphabet agency (FBI,DEA,SS,ATF,IRS,USMS) that actually has the time and resources to mess with people for what's on their phones. Cops doing traffic are 80-90 percent focused on response to emergency calls for service and traffic violations. Most of the ones working midnights are sleeping about a half hour after the bars close where you live because NOTHING happens at night after about 2 AM in most places. Your phone simply isn't that interesting to a cop in uniform. Heck, most of them wouldn't want to touch it because they might drop it and have their boss give them hell for it.

If you don't want to give your phone to a cop, then hand over your card and say no thank you. It's no different than being smart enough to refuse a consent search. Which I advise anyone and EVERYONE to refuse a consent search.

Pennsylvania will join this list in 2052 after doing three failed versions of their own.

Jesus, you're the optimist of the bunch, aren't you? Pennsylvania won't have this stuff by 2100.
 
BWI has not been able to take these the past two times I've traveled (past several months). I'll try again in one week, but I have a feeling it's not going to be active yet.

I have my ID loaded into the Wallet app all ready to go!
 
Was very excited about this at first but then read a hypothetical realistic scenario someone described.
The cops could get all friendly and say “My handheld scanner doesn’t seem to be working. Would you mind handing over your phone? I’ll just quickly scan on my in-car scanner. Can you please also unlock it so I don’t lose the app? Otherwise I need to file some report for missing documents and we’d need to get a hearing etc. Instead, if you just give me the phone, we’d be done in 5 mins.”

OK, but what happens after you hand the phone over to the police?
 
Yes!!!!!!! Omg I had no idea my state was going to! Okay so how does this work at the bar? Or buying beer at the gas station? Can they scan the screen just like the card itself? Like I ain’t lying! Oh we only accept cards here. Ugh!!! I hate cards
 
I've said this 100 times. Cops writing traffic tickets or doing crash reports really have zero interest in what's in your phone. Most of them wouldn't know what to do with what they found IF they went looking through it and wouldn't have the time or want the hassle of following up on it. If you hadn't noticed, not too many people want to be cops these days, and the ones left are stuck chasing their tails from call to call.

If ANYONE believed this sort of schtick from a beat cop, they're all ready getting caught by some other alphabet agency (FBI,DEA,SS,ATF,IRS,USMS) that actually has the time and resources to mess with people for what's on their phones. Cops doing traffic are 80-90 percent focused on response to emergency calls for service and traffic violations. Most of the ones working midnights are sleeping about a half hour after the bars close where you live because NOTHING happens at night after about 2 AM in most places. Your phone simply isn't that interesting to a cop in uniform. Heck, most of them wouldn't want to touch it because they might drop it and have their boss give them hell for it.

If you don't want to give your phone to a cop, then hand over your card and say no thank you. It's no different than being smart enough to refuse a consent search. Which I advise anyone and EVERYONE to refuse a consent search.



Jesus, you're the optimist of the bunch, aren't you? Pennsylvania won't have this stuff by 2100.

I always get a chuckle out of people that fear using digital ID because they have to hand over their phone to a cop.
 
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"You do not need to unlock, show, or hand over your device to a TSA officer to present your ID in the Wallet app, according to Apple."

Well that sold me for airport use.
How much you want to be TSA thinks you still need to and show your physical ID? Given everything I am quite cynical about TSA.
 
two practical questions:
1. at the TSA I need to show my boarding pass and ID, does this mean I need to show them my phone once (for the boarding pass), take it back and switch to the other screen (ID) and then show it to TSA again? Feels strange.
2. when this gets decent support (say about half the states start issuing this), can I drive to a state that does not issue these digital DLs without a physical drivers license?
At this time TSA does not accept digital ids of any form. Digital boarding pass is fine

Some states allow digital ids to be used as identification at traffic stops some don't...
 
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Will this be like digital boarding passes, where someone can use a screenshot without incident? (IOW, very easy to make a forged full-screen graphic)
 
How much you want to be TSA thinks you still need to and show your physical ID? Given everything I am quite cynical about TSA.
I wouldn't doubt it. Makes about as much sense as vendors that still ask for your signature when you pay with a credit card.
 
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Texas is gonna participate right after the exposure feature gets implemented. Some time on the 34nd of Nevermber. In the afternoon.
 


Earlier this year, Apple launched a feature allowing residents of participating U.S. states to add their driver's license or state ID to the Wallet app on the iPhone and Apple Watch, providing a convenient and contactless way to display proof of identity or age.

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As we wait for IDs in the Wallet app to expand to additional U.S. states, here is everything you need to know about how the feature works.

Which U.S. states support the feature so far?
Which U.S. states are committed to supporting the feature?

In March, Apple said the additional 10 states listed below would "soon" allow residents to add their driver's license or state ID to the Wallet app, but it's unclear exactly when each state plans to roll out support for the feature.
  • Colorado
  • Connecticut
  • Georgia
  • Hawaii
  • Iowa
  • Kentucky
  • Mississippi
  • Ohio
  • Oklahoma
  • Utah
Apple said the feature will also be supported in Puerto Rico.

Last year, Apple executive Jennifer Bailey said the company was "already in discussions with many more states" and working to offer the feature nationwide in the future. Apple has yet to announce any plans to expand the feature to other countries.

Note that some states like Florida and Louisiana offer iPhone driver's licenses through their own state-operated apps, separate from this Wallet app feature.

Where can IDs in the Wallet app be used?

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Driver's licenses and state ID cards stored in the Wallet app can currently be used at select TSA checkpoints within three U.S. airports:
  • Baltimore/Washington International Thurgood Marshall Airport (BWI)
  • Ronald Reagan Washington National Airport (DCA)
  • Phoenix Sky Harbor International Airport (PHX)
Apple says travelers should refer to TSA checkpoint signage to confirm availability of the feature.

Starting with iOS 16, you are able to present ID cards stored in the Wallet app in supported iPhone apps that require identity or age verification. Apple showed Uber Eats and Turo as two examples of apps that could offer this functionality.

Apple's website previously said IDs in the Wallet app would also be available for use at select retailers and venues in the future.

The feature does not replace a physical ID in all situations yet. For example, Apple makes no mention of IDs in the Wallet app being accepted by law enforcement or the government, so carrying a physical ID is still a necessity for now.

Which iPhone and Apple Watch models are supported?

The feature requires an iPhone 8 or newer running iOS 15.4 or later. If used on the Apple Watch, the feature requires a Series 4 model or newer running watchOS 8.4 or later.

For security purposes, Face ID or Touch ID must be enabled on the iPhone, and the device's region must be set to the United States. An Apple ID account with two-factor authentication turned on is also required.

How do I add my driver's license or ID to the Wallet app?

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In participating states, you can simply tap the "+" button in the top-right corner of the Wallet app and follow the on-screen instructions to add their driver's license or state ID to the iPhone and a paired Apple Watch. The process involves scanning the front and back of your driver's license or ID card, confirming your identity by taking a photo of your face, and completing a series of facial and head movements.

You can add only one license or ID to one iPhone and one paired Apple Watch at a time.

How do I use an ID stored in the Wallet app?

To present an ID stored in the Wallet app at participating TSA checkpoints, simply tap your iPhone or Apple Watch on the identity reader. A prompt on the device will display the specific information being requested by the TSA, such as name and date of birth, and this information is only released after you authenticate with Face ID or Touch ID. A checkmark appears on the screen when you successfully present your license or ID.

You do not need to unlock, show, or hand over your device to a TSA officer to present your ID in the Wallet app, according to Apple.

Is the feature secure?

Apple says identity data is encrypted and that neither Apple nor the state issuing authority can see when and where you use your license or ID in the Wallet app. And if your device is locked when you present your ID, it stays locked afterwards.

Apple has a detailed privacy and security overview of the feature on its website with more details.

Article Link: These 10 U.S. States Will Let You Add Your Driver's License to Your iPhone: Here's What to Know
No thanks

Surprised at quickly people put their whole lives on a phone in the name of convenience. Smartphone are so have more security holes than a computer they are a small device people forget, lose, have stolen, dropped and given to ???? to fix and install all sorts of cheap app giving them access to contacts, location, mic's and camera to get another app they will probably stop using in two weeks. As pointed out in a security seminar I was at people will question someone they are talking to directly at a bank of business, but not think twice about installing mysterious app's.

Then you have Apple with iPhone, Apple Watch, Apple Card, computers, and various services monitoring knowing everything about you. That just Apple, Google and other major corporations are collecting your data. People will complain about the government invading their privacy but major corporations today are far worse than the government.

As I said in the beginning no thanks.
 
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