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These 9 U.S. States Will Let You Add Your Driver's License to Your iPhone
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What do you think will happen first; privatizing the liquor business, or this? 😂
While your frustration is justified, coordinating with 50 states and FAA is no small feat. Hopefully in 5 years or so, we can look back at all the baby steps it took to get there.
Seriously. The alternative is...not to start? Apple Pay adoption was sparse at the beginning and now I can use it in so many places.
A for effort but the situations that this would come in handy for are the exact same situations where you shouldn’t be handing your phone over.
Speaking on behalf of gas station attendants everywhere, don't even try. Just bring your physical license. Anyone can doctor a picture of a driver's license on a phone, so showing me a picture of your license accomplishes nothing, even if it appears to be verified on an official Apple app. The state issued you a card, bring it. It's a lot lighter than the six-pack, you'll manage.
Cops are trained to talk people into giving up their rights without even quite realizing it, but supposedly there are protections built in for this. That’s why it’s starting at airports with stationary kiosks. Nobody touches your unlocked phone. The idea is it’s just as secure as Apple Wallet is for everything else.
Of course they then strip you of your belongings and can physically detain you indefinitely if they so choose, so you’re even more screwed than you already are at a traffic stop.
It will be many, many more years before the idea of using this for a traffic stop is even remotely feasible anyway. The airport is a much more controlled and centralized environment and already this is taking forever.
Oh hi. Where did I say they shouldn’t start? Just pointing out this feature is almost entirely useless in its current form even if you do have access. The bickering and whining about which states don’t have access is completely unjustified because even if more states had access, it’s a useless copy of your ID that is only accepted in 3 airports and literally nowhere else.
The police aren’t gonna take it. The liquor store isn’t gonna take it. It’s a virtual paperweight unless you’re in one of those 3 airports.
So everyone take a breather and come back in 3 years.
At some point toward this march off a cliff that we fraudulently proclaim to be progress, you gotta ask yourself where the line is. For me, this is it.
And yet, despite selling 100's of millions of iPhones around the world, the rest of the world get's left out!
I wonder if this digital license will be as quick a rollout in Oregon as the Covid tracking app. (In other words, never happened…..)
www.oregonlive.com
Oregon won’t approve COVID-19 exposure notification app, cites ‘limited resources’
Oregon is one of just four states along or west of the Continental Divide that hasn’t adopted the technology.
Why do so many companies, and states seek to reinvent the wheel over this feature. It's like Krogers and their 'Scan Bag Go' mess. I think it's all but gone. Meijer's has something similar, but it's really severely limited at the time, and only for 5 items, period.
Like I would trust an app from either Florida or Louisiana to protect my ID. *shrug* Another great waste of time for those states who can't really afford it?
EDIT: This was meant to be about not only Apple Pay, bit the Apple Wallet. Apple has the technology, and the security (so far) and yet people are walking by it and insisting on reinventing the wheel. The hate for Apple, or is it distrust, is almost a religion amongst some people. I met many after the iPods first came out. They would use a Sandisk player, or Reo player rather than dare to touch an iPod. People are amazed at how well Apple Pay works at the grocery, but won't give up their droid phone. *shrug*
Like I would trust an app from either Florida or Louisiana to protect my ID. *shrug* Another great waste of time for those states who can't really afford it?
EDIT: This was meant to be about not only Apple Pay, bit the Apple Wallet. Apple has the technology, and the security (so far) and yet people are walking by it and insisting on reinventing the wheel. The hate for Apple, or is it distrust, is almost a religion amongst some people. I met many after the iPods first came out. They would use a Sandisk player, or Reo player rather than dare to touch an iPod. People are amazed at how well Apple Pay works at the grocery, but won't give up their droid phone. *shrug*
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Remember Passbook, Wallet's predecessor 2012-2015? Alabama offered Passbook drivers' licenses back then. Why aren't they on the Wallet list?
Wallet can be accessed while keeping the iPhone locked, no?
Wallet can be accessed while keeping the iPhone locked, no?
Well, they can't put a "may cause cancer..." sticker on it so it won't be allowed.
Legal issues are almost always the cause as not every government will cooperate or have burdensome regulations.
In many of the states where this has been implemented, the cop would be breaking the law if they took possession of your phone in the process of scanning it. If there gets to be any sort of a problem with cops doing this, presumably civil liberties groups would make a lot of very public noise about it, and cops will get in trouble over it.
And when your drivers license is displayed in iOS, it's via the wallet app, on the lock screen - you have to use TouchID or FaceID to get it to display the license, the phone itself is not unlocked, there's no app that needs to be started up or kept open, and you can't access the other cards in the wallet, only the drivers license. There's not much they can do with it. And, again, taking it out of your hands is breaking the law.
Other hypothetical realistic scenarios include, you get a knock on your door and when you open it, SOMEONE SHOOTS YOU WITH A MACHINE GUN! - therefore, never open your door under any circumstances.
Cops tricking people into doing stupid things is something you cure by (A) enforcement of existing laws against cops and possibly establishment of new laws, and (B) educating the public to not be as gullible. It's not a reason to try to ban a reasonable technological advancement.
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So what happens if your iPhone or AW runs out of battery? It's a good idea, but just like Apple Pay you might want to carry a few necessary cards with you just in case.
At first I was like how cool that you can travel with your drivers license in the US but then I realized I can fly across Europe without any ID haha
Anyway, cool feature. If we will ever get this, they will lock it behind 5 data protection security steps so no one will actually bother to use it
Anyway, cool feature. If we will ever get this, they will lock it behind 5 data protection security steps so no one will actually bother to use it
You should never hand your phone, locked or unlocked, to a cop or stranger. If I understand correctly, the software on the iPhone is specifically designed to display the drivers license without unlocking the phone, and, in many jurisdictions, the cops are required, by law, to not touch your phone while scanning the barcode / QR code off your license on the lock screen.
I think we have some “What ifs” and what the police will do with your phone ideas that are stretching reality a bit. I fly out of PHX and use the app/AZ license at TSA along with an e-ticket. Tap on the reader like you do with Apple Pay and that is it. You have to show a regular, hold-in-your-hand driver’s license for everything else including traffic stops. No hand held scanners or readers (at least not yet). When they say ‘license and registration, please’ it is not a request for your phone. As I noted in a post back in December, the contactless ID check using the DL on my iphone is easy and for me one less item to fumble with or drop during the TSA screening.
