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So what do you think about Macs/Apple OS?

  • They are superb and could not be better

    Votes: 305 22.9%
  • They're good but have a few niggles

    Votes: 879 65.9%
  • For everything I like there's something I don't like

    Votes: 106 8.0%
  • I prefer Microsoft PCs

    Votes: 43 3.2%

  • Total voters
    1,333
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I agree, it wouldn't be so bad if Apple designed the trackpad to have both left and right click, but they don't so live with it.

Also dude, the majority, probably 90%+ of the Mac world are switchers at some point and time. Stop acting like the recent switchers are the only "switchers". I switched back when the OS was Mac OS 8.5. You know nothing about that version I'm sure.
I was diehard Windows too and when I switched we didn't have the option to install Windows on the Mac natively or have the many beauties of OS X's prettiness so for us switchers back in the day it was pure Mac and I enjoyed exploring something new that was not on Windows and you should too.

Ask yourself, (and this question goes to other recent switchers) if Apple gave all those silly Windows-type options that you want would you use the "Mac way" or the "Windows way"?
For example, if you had the option to quit the app with the red button rather than just close it or right-click contextual menu rather than double tap which way would you choose?
Based on the complaints here you'd do it the Windows way. Well that means you are not willing to learn something new or give the Mac way a try.
Apple did not implement Windows style features for the old switchers like me so why should the recent switchers like you get it YOUR WAY?

Well, we obviously disagree and won't see eye to eye on it, and Apple certainly isn't going to change their mind at this point in the game. So I'll just stick with this thread being what I hate about Macs, and the answer (for me) is hanging onto traditions that don't make sense (to me). As a performance improvement professional in my 'real job', the very first thing we go after is 'things that have always been done that way'...and thus it is particularly irritating to me when there are better ways, or at least more options that don't take anything away from anyone.

And those things are what I hate most about Macs!
-Allen
 
For me the key is one-dimension resizing. It requires less precision especially when using track pad. So, say I have a webpage, I want to make it taller, but not wider. I could grab the bottom edge and inaccurately flick my mouse down, expand one direction only, without covering up some word document that's to the right of it.

If I have to grab the corner, I have to be careful and navigate my mouse without resizing horizontally.

Just hit the (+). Window perfectly resized. ;)

JK, I know what you mean, but I still like it the way it is. Plus, not having the 'resize' field around the entire window gives it a nice "seamless" look to it. :)
 
Maybe my statement of not loosing any money was too bold, but maybe we could spend less to replace our macs.

What I was thinking is that :apple: could use this type of policy as an environmental initiative to allow us, Mac owners to be able to "dispose/recycle" our Macs in an environmental safe way.

So :apple: gains recognition as an environmental friendly company and active player to protect our beloved Earth, so they will safely recycle/dispose our old macs.

The macs that :apple: could receive through this program could be refurbished and donated to schools, poor people, etc. CUT TAXES and could be less expensive for them, instead to paying for an environmental campaign or settlements.

We as customers contribute to this initiative while obtaining the benefit to be able to updgrad/replace our macs by obtaining a fair amount of money for replacing/recycling our macs and have a better price for the new one.

In addition to this, as the years go by, our macs, as well as many other end consumer products, advance as product with more new good features, for a lower price and cost.

That's an awesome idea!:) Hopefully Apple will offer something like this and it could very well be mentioned at Macworld since they are becoming so environmentally friendly.
Finally, somebody on the forums that has a great idea for Apple's computers that has nothing to do with being "like Windows".
 
One thing that's on my mind quite a bit: The inability to close most apps' windows when minimized in the dock (without quitting the program). They often end up there when I hit the "close" button a little too far to the right. :mad:
 
QC
and after called their customers service, apparently, they hire losers for CS as well.
 
The thing I hate most about Macs are the pompous users.

I hate it when someone cringes at the sound of using another OS.

"macs are so much better than windows".

I hate the douche bags that say that kind of stuff.
 
-Lack of SLI in OS X eventhough apple ships an SLI capable graphics card
-Lack of Crossfire
-Lack of hierarchical view from stacks (soon to be changed)
-Windows not being maximized completely when clicking on the green circle
-Some applications become hidden, others close completely when clicking on the red button
-Lack of a proper address bar in the finder (ie; c:/program files/you are here/)
-Lack of Fullscreen slideshows from 'quickview'
-Horrid anti-aliasing of fonts on LCD monitors in OS X
-DRM in itunes music store
-No real alternatives to itunes or ipod
-Forced use of itunes with ipod on OS X (apple claims to believe in choice)


Thats my list for now.
 
-Windows not being maximized completely when clicking on the green circle
-Some applications become hidden, others close completely when clicking on the red button
See the many above posts on why this is a more consistent and natural way to do it

-Lack of a proper address bar in the finder (ie; c:/program files/you are here/)
View>Show Path Bar

-Lack of Fullscreen slideshows from 'quickview'
The little fullscreen button? That's what that's for.

-Horrid anti-aliasing of fonts on LCD monitors in OS X
Open up System Preferences.

-DRM in itunes music store
Not Apple's fault, it's the studio's.

-No real alternatives to itunes or ipod
That's not Apple's problem. No one has made an alternative. Talk to those people.

-Forced use of itunes with ipod on OS X (apple claims to believe in choice)
As opposed to... You just said there is no alternative, and plus, what can you use your iPod with on Windows? iTunes. And what about a Zune? Only iwth the Zune Software.
 
As opposed to... You just said there is no alternative, and plus, what can you use your iPod with on Windows? iTunes. And what about a Zune? Only iwth the Zune Software.

That's an unfair argument. That's like me complaining "You know, my house has rats in it!" and someone telling me "Well, the other houses do too!"

It doesn't eliminate the problem - it simply makes light that the problem is more widespread.
 
this is a more consistent and natural way to do it


View>Show Path Bar


The little fullscreen button? That's what that's for.


Open up System Preferences.


Not Apple's fault, it's the studio's.


That's not Apple's problem. No one has made an alternative. Talk to those people.


As opposed to... You just said there is no alternative, and plus, what can you use your iPod with on Windows? iTunes. And what about a Zune? Only iwth the Zune Software.
u only mention zune when u want to trash windows, do u relize how many ppl use zune compare to mac?

all excuses, since when 'ease of use' becomes "you have to do things this way!" and "its not my fault you can't do this"!
 
See the many above posts on why this is a more consistent and natural way to do it

No, its not more natural, and i dont like it. If it says 'fullscreen' and it only does 'half screen' than its not full screen, is it?

View>Show Path Bar

Where is this in the finder? I dont see it.

The little fullscreen button? That's what that's for.

I know that, but it doesnt go to the next file if its in full screen. I said *slideshow*

Open up System Preferences.

This doesnt help, OS X does a poor job of rendering fonts on an LCD. Windows does a GREAT job on rendering fonts. This is most annoying on forums where text is not smooth.

Not Apple's fault, it's the studio's.

Not entirely the studios fault. Also, i should mention that tracks loaded onto an ipod via itunes cannot be retrieved unless using hacks (3rd party software). This in its own right is ridiculous too.


That's not Apple's problem. No one has made an alternative. Talk to those people.

I'll agree, audion went under around the time ipod exploded. Although, this is sad because itunes isnt exactly the best. Plus, it doesnt use LAME encoding for mp3s, itunes own encoder is pretty bad.

As opposed to... You just said there is no alternative, and plus, what can you use your iPod with on Windows? iTunes. And what about a Zune? Only iwth the Zune Software.

No, I meant that if you use ipod, you have to use itunes. Have you heard of UMS? Just because other dap manufacturers are doing it the apple way, doesnt make it right. There should be choice, and UMS is the most flexible one as it does allow you to store music on a dap with your choice of software. This, is something steve jobs said apple believes in; choice.
 
No, its not more natural, and i dont like it. If it says 'fullscreen' and it only does 'half screen' than its not full screen, is it?

Where do you see that it says full screen. You specifically say it says "fullscreen". It doesn't say that anywhere. It just has a green plus sign.
 
There's only one thing I _really_ dislike about my Mac's: The d*mn slot loading drives! :mad: I've had slot loading drives eat disks a couple of times, and then the whole computer has to go in for repairs because there's no way to manually eject the effing thing!

Good thing the easiest way to get so many things (software, music etc) onto your computer is to download :eek:
 
No, its not more natural, and i dont like it. If it says 'fullscreen' and it only does 'half screen' than its not full screen, is it?
It says nowhere that the plus button makes you go fullscreen. That is an old assumption from Windows.

Where is this in the finder? I dont see it.
View>Show Path Bar. At the bottom of the window, you will se a little path bar. Granted, not quite an address bar, but you can see where you are and double click any of the folders to jump straight there.


I know that, but it doesnt go to the next file if its in full screen. I said *slideshow*
Select a whole bunch of photos, quicklook, then enter fullscreen. Works great here.

This doesnt help, OS X does a poor job of rendering fonts on an LCD. Windows does a GREAT job on rendering fonts. This is most annoying on forums where text is not smooth.
Personally, Anti-aliasing always bugged me on LCDs, but for you I dont know what to tell you.

Not entirely the studios fault. Also, i should mention that tracks loaded onto an ipod via itunes cannot be retrieved unless using hacks (3rd party software). This in its own right is ridiculous too.
Yeah, pretty much all the studios fault. Apple has stated that it would love to get rid of DRM if the studios would. I agree on your iPod point. But technically, that's not a Mac problem.

No, I meant that if you use ipod, you have to use itunes. Have you heard of UMS? Just because other dap manufacturers are doing it the apple way, doesnt make it right. There should be choice, and UMS is the most flexible one as it does allow you to store music on a dap with your choice of software. This, is something steve jobs said apple believes in; choice.
They can't make the iPod work anywhere just like they can't license the Mac OS to any computer. They wouldn't be able to control software-hardware integration as much. That is what Apple is all about, and thats pretty much a fact that you have to live with with Apple.
 
There's only one thing I _really_ dislike about my Mac's: The d*mn slot loading drives! :mad: I've had slot loading drives eat disks a couple of times, and then the whole computer has to go in for repairs because there's no way to manually eject the effing thing!

Good thing the easiest way to get so many things (software, music etc) onto your computer is to download :eek:

Actually there is a way to manually eject. You just stick a paperclip or other small object into the very right side of it and there should be a small manual eject lever that you just push on with it. The disc will pop right out.
 
u only mention zune when u want to trash windows, do u relize how many ppl use zune compare to mac?

all excuses, since when 'ease of use' becomes "you have to do things this way!" and "its not my fault you can't do this"!

Way to troll. How am I using Zune to trash Windows? Should I include iRiver, too just to make you feel better? And it's not Apple's fault. I explained why, and it makes sense. It's not Apple's fault no one makes an iTunes compatible MP3 player.
 
Way to troll. How am I using Zune to trash Windows? Should I include iRiver, too just to make you feel better? And it's not Apple's fault. I explained why, and it makes sense. It's not Apple's fault no one makes an iTunes compatible MP3 player.

So true. Why should you yell at apple for not being compatible with other MP3 players? My SanDisk sansa says that the only way to load music on it is to sync with windows media player. Well I hate windows media player so I just plug it into my Mac and drag MP3 files to the music folder and movie files to the videos folder...
 
No, its not more natural, and i dont like it. If it says 'fullscreen' and it only does 'half screen' than its not full screen, is it?

It is very natural when you're working with several apps at once.

Also, it doesn't say "maximize," "fullscreen," or "fit to screen" anywhere. The green + should be associated with only "toggle size" because this is all it does. Nothing more, nothing less. The secret to its power is how it toggles. ;)
 
Way to troll. How am I using Zune to trash Windows? Should I include iRiver, too just to make you feel better? And it's not Apple's fault. I explained why, and it makes sense. It's not Apple's fault no one makes an iTunes compatible MP3 player.

excuese are excuse, I look at end result

do you take "more users" as being reason for windows of not "that secure"?

and apple didn't put a * behind its claim of "ease of use" "most advanced", list a foot note says, "except if you want to resize windows, have non-compatible printers, use non-compatible apps, etc, etc"

and remember, this topic is "things you hate about macs". NOT "why you should not complain about this shortcomes of mac". the way for mac to improve forward is not "sorry its not my fault". rather, it should be "most users like this? then we try to meet our users' need"!
 
excuese are excuse, I look at end result

do you take "more users" as being reason for windows of not "that secure"?

Yes I do. As Mac enlarges there market share, evil hackers and "just plain mean" people will start to make viruses for Mac. It has been proven possible. The more users Mac has, the more it will draw attention from hackers...
 
-Some applications become hidden, others close completely when clicking on the red button.
This one's been beaten to death. Like many beginners you are confusing Close Window with the Quit command. Choose the action you want to do and do it. If you want to quit then Quit. There are dozens of situations where you close the last window but want the application to continue running. (Apps can be made to close by the developer by closing the last window, and they tend to take advantage of this if the app can only have one window, e.g. Calculator, System Prefs). To quote myself on another thread:

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Imagine you are at your local library('the application') and you have taken a few books off the shelf(the windows), and plonked them on the table. As you finish reading them you put them back on the shelf ('close the window').

You put the last book back on the shelf when suddenly out of nowhere a librarian appears, carries you to your car, bundles you in and drives you home. "I'm just being helpful", he says. "You put the last book back so I took you home."

You explain to the librarian that you didn't want to go home, you were just about to take another book off the shelf. The librarian doesn't really get that. He keeps saying, "well you just need to drive back to the library, don't you".

"I have a suggestion", you say. "When I put back all the books, I'll then decide whether I want to drive home. Just leave me alone. But when I do drive home (quit), if I've left any books out put them away for me". The librarian says, "That's a good idea but you're not in an OS X library and us librarians are here to **** up your life, not help you. Beside I think, I've caught a cold, so you might want to leave anyway". You wander away thinking, "what's a cold?".
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u only mention zune when u want to trash windows, do u relize how many ppl use zune compare to mac?

all excuses, since when 'ease of use' becomes "you have to do things this way!" and "its not my fault you can't do this"!

No... the Zune is a great music player but it's still a very closed system.

Ungraphic, sorry pal but you have to learn more about the OS before you can make claims about what you don't like. Not trying to be pompous like some other poster said (like the douchebag Windows users aren't the same way :rolleyes: ) but that's the way it is. I use Windows enough to hate it and find fault with it just the same as Mac OS X. But your reasons stem from lack of user understanding of the OS.

Read the posts and you will see. :D
 
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