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So what do you think about Macs/Apple OS?

  • They are superb and could not be better

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You'll notice a dropdown menu at the top of any dialog (save or open dialogs, for instance) Click on it, and it provides a path leading to where you are. Then you can go anywhere in that path. It's even better than a "up one level" button!
 
Unfortunately not :(

I hope Apple include this option in 10.5.2

Go to terminal and enter:

sudo defaults write /System/Library/LaunchDaemons/com.apple.WindowServer 'EnvironmentVariables' -dict 'CI_NO_BACKGROUND_IMAGE' 0.62

If you don't like it and want the translucency back, do:

sudo defaults delete /System/Library/LaunchDaemons/com.apple.WindowServer 'EnvironmentVariables'
 
finder fell off dock

most bizarre glitch... sure its only happened once and a simple restart fixed it but come on what a nuisance.
 
Go to terminal and enter:



If you don't like it and want the translucency back, do:

:eek: Thanks allot.

No dedicated delete key while using Finder.

I have to either drag the file to the trash or right click > move to trash.

annoying.
 
Thing I dislike about Apple currently are:
  • Quality control
  • Customer service
  • US-exclusivity
  • Dollar to Pound conversions
  • Apple TV
  • iTunes video rentals
  • iPod Touch software rip-off
  • MacBook Air
  • No new MacBook Pro
  • iPhone
  • Their whole attitude towards customers in this past year
  • White Front Row remote
  • RAM prices (yes I know about 3rd party, but surely they do too)
  • Poorly thought-out, last-minute products like the iPod Touch, Time Capsule and Apple TV.
etc.
 
Thing I dislike about Apple currently are:
  • Quality control
  • Customer service
  • US-exclusivity
  • Dollar to Pound conversions
  • Apple TV
  • iTunes video rentals
  • iPod Touch software rip-off
  • MacBook Air
  • No new MacBook Pro
  • iPhone
  • Their whole attitude towards customers in this past year
  • White Front Row remote
  • RAM prices (yes I know about 3rd party, but surely they do too)
  • Poorly thought-out, last-minute products like the iPod Touch, Time Capsule and Apple TV.
etc.

But apart from that everything basically OK. :)
 
the trash can

I am starting to hate the trash can on macs!
As a windows user for 15yrs i should say im a happy migrate so far, but you know the absence of a simple feature of restore option for stuff in trash can to its original destination is simply not acceptable!
In windows a simple right click and restore moves my files to their original destination. Here i have to
remember from where i deleted that file and then
open that folder from finder and then
select file or files and drag and drop them to the folder i want them to be in

with my small 13.3' screen requiring to open so many windows for moving files is simply ****** and in addition to that there is no Cut option!

This is so silly that apple dint want such simple functionality!

I loved everything else about mac but i should admit explorer though hell buggy is way better in windows than the finder of macs.:mad:
 
No dedicated delete key while using Finder.

I have to either drag the file to the trash or right click > move to trash.

annoying.

Uh...command (apple key) delete?

I am starting to hate the trash can on macs!
As a windows user for 15yrs i should say im a happy migrate so far, but you know the absence of a simple feature of restore option for stuff in trash can to its original destination is simply not acceptable!
In windows a simple right click and restore moves my files to their original destination. Here i have to
remember from where i deleted that file and then
open that folder from finder and then
select file or files and drag and drop them to the folder i want them to be in

This is so silly that apple dint want such simple functionality!

I loved everything else about mac but i should admit explorer though hell buggy is way better in windows than the finder of macs.:mad:

I've heard this from too many people...why do so many throw away things that they still need? Do these same people use their physical trash cans as part of their filing system?
 
Actually I used to be a Windows junkie and I have found that Windows has less useful shortcuts that Mac OS X. There are some shortcuts in Windows that are very different and specific that Mac OS X does differently but when you compare the shortcut list for just the OS features Windows has less, and a few that are just less useful than Mac OS X.

Mac OS X has 106 shortcuts specifically for the OS, not including iLife Apps, help menus, etc. Windows has short cuts for resizing the icons, and features that mimic Expose. It's really convoluted. And you can access everything in Mac OS X through the keyboard.
What sort of shortcuts do you find missing in Windows? Obviously, there's no reveal-desktop shortcut, since Windows doesn't have an Expose-equivalent. But in general, it seems that by default Windows is far friendlier for keyboarding. Simply put, every single application menu item can be accomplished by keyboard in Windows. This is not true of Mac OS X.

What I noticed immediately is that I can no longer navigate MS Office in the Mac by keyboard like I can in Windows. Unless there's options I've missed, there's just no comparison.

I also don't know if I can do the ALT-#### trick to get special characters (e.g. ALT-0181 gives me the "mu", or "micron" symbol which I use extensively in technical writing.)

And I'm so ingrained with the keyboard text-navigation that I still stumble in the Mac. (e.g. Control-Arrow does single-word advance in text editors, but it's Option-Arrow on the Mac.)

These aren't really big deals, but I do miss these many, lesser shortcuts from Windows.
 
Go to terminal and enter:

THings I HATE about Macs....fairly simple customization issues hidden away - totally eliminating that opportunity 'think different' and have your mac look the way you want. Tinkertool etc. shouldn't be required for this sort of thing.

'It just works' - if you're a terminal guru. 99% of people are not.

Also - when a dialog box pops up - I can hit enter to select the highlighted button, but I can't use the arrow keys to navigate to the other buttons. Arhghhhh.
 
Things i hate about Mac....well I just upgraded to iLife 08 and now when i want to upload photos to websites like myspace and i click "browse" i cannot retrieve my photos....what the ish!?!?
 
THings I HATE about Macs....fairly simple customization issues hidden away - totally eliminating that opportunity 'think different' and have your mac look the way you want. Tinkertool etc. shouldn't be required for this sort of thing.

'It just works' - if you're a terminal guru. 99% of people are not.

Also - when a dialog box pops up - I can hit enter to select the highlighted button, but I can't use the arrow keys to navigate to the other buttons. Arhghhhh.

I agree with the first part. There are many small applications you need to make it "diffferent". By the time you get it the way u wanted, ull have spent quite a bit of money, because all these small apps do cost money.
 
THings I HATE about Macs....fairly simple customization issues hidden away - totally eliminating that opportunity 'think different' and have your mac look the way you want. Tinkertool etc. shouldn't be required for this sort of thing.

'It just works' - if you're a terminal guru. 99% of people are not.
This is the way it should be. Years of design and interface studies have shown that giving users too many options increases complexity to the level that productivity goes down. By putting these options in the Terminal with no interface, Apple is allowing developers to make things like Tinker Tool which users can then install if they wish. When a user actively installs such a thing then they have opted for this extra complexity, and thus it won't affect them.

Also - when a dialog box pops up - I can hit enter to select the highlighted button, but I can't use the arrow keys to navigate to the other buttons. Arhghhhh.

Won't TAB (plus space bar to activate) work to navigate through the buttons?
 
What sort of shortcuts do you find missing in Windows? Obviously, there's no reveal-desktop shortcut, since Windows doesn't have an Expose-equivalent. But in general, it seems that by default Windows is far friendlier for keyboarding. Simply put, every single application menu item can be accomplished by keyboard in Windows. This is not true of Mac OS X.

What I noticed immediately is that I can no longer navigate MS Office in the Mac by keyboard like I can in Windows. Unless there's options I've missed, there's just no comparison.

I also don't know if I can do the ALT-#### trick to get special characters (e.g. ALT-0181 gives me the "mu", or "micron" symbol which I use extensively in technical writing.)

And I'm so ingrained with the keyboard text-navigation that I still stumble in the Mac. (e.g. Control-Arrow does single-word advance in text editors, but it's Option-Arrow on the Mac.)

These aren't really big deals, but I do miss these many, lesser shortcuts from Windows.

MS Office for Mac isn't developed by Apple, so I don't know who you'd have to talk to about those missing features, but as for accessing the Application menus I would say that Apple and MS are about even, since much of that relies on the 3rd party devo. MS doesn't make that much good standard software with their OS, so when comparing iPhoto and such it's a bit hard but most of the menu options can be accessed from the keyboard.

On the other hand, applications like Avid Express and Photoshop can have their keyboard shortcuts managed and changed by the user and you get far more use out of the apps from Mac OS X who doesn't make useless shortcuts like "alt - shift - numlock" which turns the mouse buttons off :confused: and why would I need this, and why is it interfering with my professional work?

I never understood Alt - F4 to close a window or app, even when I was a Windows users. It was just a bit odd. Mac OS X puts most of it's shortcuts under the "command" key or some variation of the command key which makes it easier to discover them and access them... to me anyway. You can get special characters via a shortcut in MacOS X, but I rarely to that if at all. Maybe I am thinking of the shortcut to bring up the palette for special characters?

Now, I don't know if Windows has shortcuts for making quit shortcuts without having to right click, and press "make shortcut" or something. I have yet to find a shortcut in Windows for starting a NetBoot, Safe Mode, or FireWire target disk mode. Where is the shortcut for screen capture, or selected screen capture, or to put the machine to sleep without a word?
 
MS Office for Mac isn't developed by Apple, so I don't know who you'd have to talk to about those missing features, but as for accessing the Application menus I would say that Apple and MS are about even, since much of that relies on the 3rd party devo. MS doesn't make that much good standard software with their OS, so when comparing iPhoto and such it's a bit hard but most of the menu options can be accessed from the keyboard.

On the other hand, applications like Avid Express and Photoshop can have their keyboard shortcuts managed and changed by the user and you get far more use out of the apps from Mac OS X who doesn't make useless shortcuts like "alt - shift - numlock" which turns the mouse buttons off :confused: and why would I need this, and why is it interfering with my professional work?

I never understood Alt - F4 to close a window or app, even when I was a Windows users. It was just a bit odd. Mac OS X puts most of it's shortcuts under the "command" key or some variation of the command key which makes it easier to discover them and access them... to me anyway. You can get special characters via a shortcut in MacOS X, but I rarely to that if at all. Maybe I am thinking of the shortcut to bring up the palette for special characters?

Now, I don't know if Windows has shortcuts for making quit shortcuts without having to right click, and press "make shortcut" or something. I have yet to find a shortcut in Windows for starting a NetBoot, Safe Mode, or FireWire target disk mode. Where is the shortcut for screen capture, or selected screen capture, or to put the machine to sleep without a word?
For MS Office shortcuts -- they're missing just as all OS X shortcuts are hindered: you can't access arbitrary menu items in OS X. In Windows, ALT triggers the menu bar, and you can navigate it (quickly) by keyboard.

You're right, Windows is frustratingly missing shortcuts for a few important file operations, particularly New Folder.

You can manage all shut-down operations via the Windows Key and keyboard operations. Does OS X have shortcut for "Sleep"? It's not shown as having one in my Apple menu.

Screen Capture is easier than on a Mac: Alt-Printscreen for the window and Ctrl-Printscreen for the whole screen. (I have trouble remembering the CMD-Alt-Shift-Control-Stand on my head-3 contortion to do screen grabs in OS X :))
 
For MS Office shortcuts -- they're missing just as all OS X shortcuts are hindered: you can't access arbitrary menu items in OS X. In Windows, ALT triggers the menu bar, and you can navigate it (quickly) by keyboard.

Control-F2.

EDIT: What the? I fixed this URL twice.

You can manage all shut-down operations via the Windows Key and keyboard operations. Does OS X have shortcut for "Sleep"? It's not shown as having one in my Apple menu.

Control-Eject, Option-Command-Eject.

Screen Capture is easier than on a Mac: Alt-Printscreen for the window and Ctrl-Printscreen for the whole screen. (I have trouble remembering the CMD-Alt-Shift-Control-Stand on my head-3 contortion to do screen grabs in OS X :))

You're missing a few more steps. You then have to paste the resulting image into a photo editor and save it as a document filetype.

Aside from being able to alter the "head-3 contortion" in System Preferences, OS X's screenshot supports a plethora of formats and taking a picture of a window or a whole desktop is the same keyboard command, with the exception that you press space to get just a window. I'm not saying it's better, but I am saying that it's more powerful and fewer steps.
 

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Not too much to complain about, just iPhoto randomly deciding for me when I can drag a photo from my library to the desktop.

Other than that, everything has been good to me.
 
Not too much to complain about, just iPhoto randomly deciding for me when I can drag a photo from my library to the desktop.

Other than that, everything has been good to me.

That's an interesting bug. Have you figured out if a particular source increases the odds of failure?
 
giving users too many options increases complexity to the level that productivity goes down.

Who's productivity? I've got a bunch of options already. Blue or Graphite, loads of highlight colour options, scroll arrows together or at top and bottom, number of recent items etc etc etc.

How, exactly, would options to, say, toggle task bar opacity, or 3D dock, decrease productivity? It's something you do once, to make you machine how you want it, so you can get on with what you want to do in the way you want to do it. How can that do anything but increase productivity?

Doug
 
Who's productivity? I've got a bunch of options already. Blue or Graphite, loads of highlight colour options, scroll arrows together or at top and bottom, number of recent items etc etc etc.

How, exactly, would options to, say, toggle task bar opacity, or 3D dock, decrease productivity? It's something you do once, to make you machine how you want it, so you can get on with what you want to do in the way you want to do it. How can that do anything but increase productivity?

Doug

Well, when we add the 30 options you'd like, and the 50 options I'd like, and the 35 options my friend would like etc. the options would make the system preferences overwhelming. Interface designers have to draw the line somewhere. Generally, the kind of user who wants the changes that you're seeking is of a sufficient level to find out and type it into the Terminal.

You could download Clix, save the Terminal command, and double click when you need it? Or you could probably fairly easily make an Automator command to do it.

I'm not saying that something like the 'toggle task bar opacity' should not be a built in preference - it should - but the miriad of options that Tinkertool offers should not be there by default. So if you are talking about 3 or 4 simple settings I agree with you but if you're talking many more, then things are better left as they are: where sufficiently motivated users can get at them and where the typical user is not overwhelmed with options.
 
For MS Office shortcuts -- they're missing just as all OS X shortcuts are hindered: you can't access arbitrary menu items in OS X. In Windows, ALT triggers the menu bar, and you can navigate it (quickly) by keyboard.

You're right, Windows is frustratingly missing shortcuts for a few important file operations, particularly New Folder.

You can manage all shut-down operations via the Windows Key and keyboard operations. Does OS X have shortcut for "Sleep"? It's not shown as having one in my Apple menu.

Screen Capture is easier than on a Mac: Alt-Printscreen for the window and Ctrl-Printscreen for the whole screen. (I have trouble remembering the CMD-Alt-Shift-Control-Stand on my head-3 contortion to do screen grabs in OS X :))

Yeah... OS X does have shortcuts for sleep (Alt - Apple/Command - eject). I forgot about new folder in Windows. I think they may have put that in Vista though because I do hear murmurs about the Good things that Vista did add.
 
Another irritation of mine is that the Finder and other file dialogues don't have a 'go up a directory' option. Sometimes if I save a file the program takes me to the last folder that I accessed, which sometimes is already a few folders deep. Because I can't go up a directory I have to hope that one of the other directories I accessed recently is nearer to where I want, or I have to go to the root level and work my way down again. How complicated can it be to add an option to go up a folder level?!

CMD + Up Arrow, CMD + Down Arrow. Lets you cycle up and down through folders.

Which is still irritating to me - I use keyboard short cuts a lot, but a button to go a up a level in finder would be nice for mousing.

Ok, I hate too harp on this, but the green + zoom button...especially in Safari....

I understand that it fits the window to be the size of the page, so you don't have a bunch of white space, but unless Im missing something, you have to do this to EVERY page. I'm frequently following hyperlinks or skipping around to different sites, which means I'd have to hit the button EVERYTIME i go to a different website so that it "zooms to fit." To me...that's LAME.

No cut in finder...wtf?

As for the closing of the lid on a macbook pro while shutting down...I do this ALL THE TIME. Im not sure if you guys who are complaining about this have older MacBook Pros or something, but I shutdown and immediately close the lid, and it continues shutting down.

If fact, this was one of the first cool things I noticed about my new MacBook Pro. My other two PC laptops (one was sold to buy the MBP, and one is my girlfriends) had to have the lid remain open until shutdown was complete. That is not the case with my MBP.
 
Two Things I hate about OSX.

1: Resizing Windows of Finder and Applications is not nearly as fast as resizing them in "MS Windows"

2. Why the inconsisticy of the red X button? It Hides some programs, and closes others. WTF?
 
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