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So what do you think about Macs/Apple OS?

  • They are superb and could not be better

    Votes: 305 22.9%
  • They're good but have a few niggles

    Votes: 879 65.9%
  • For everything I like there's something I don't like

    Votes: 106 8.0%
  • I prefer Microsoft PCs

    Votes: 43 3.2%

  • Total voters
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I hate that you have to purchase extra software just to get a basic word processing program so you can type a letter to a friend. They use to preload appleworks (was that the name? Its been so long) for free on even the least expensive models.

I hate that on Safari the refresh and stop button are together instead of separate like on firefox (which I use because of that). Sometimes I want to stop something from loading and it refreshes the page instead.
 
I hate that you have to purchase extra software just to get a basic word processing program so you can type a letter to a friend. They use to preload appleworks (was that the name? Its been so long) for free on even the least expensive models.

To be fair, TextEdit is better than "Notepad" on Windows.

No sense in bundling a good word processor if not everyone is going to use it right?
Sometimes I want to stop something from loading and it refreshes the page instead.

That shouldn't ever happen. If the page is loading, it will always display as a "Stop." Perhaps your Safari has a bug in it. :p
 
The single mouse button on the laptops.

Just seems stubborn and outdated to me.

Ask me this before I got my MacBook Pro and I would have agreed with you. However, now that I've had my MacBook Pro for over a year now, I have to say that I actually prefer the large one trackpad button over a two button configuration. Just placing two fingers on the pad and clicking the button seems far more intuitive to me.

Now, on the desktop? I have to have a *real* two button mouse.

w00master
 
Ask me this before I got my MacBook Pro and I would have agreed with you. However, now that I've had my MacBook Pro for over a year now, I have to say that I actually prefer the large one trackpad button over a two button configuration. Just placing two fingers on the pad and clicking the button seems far more intuitive to me.

Now, on the desktop? I have to have a *real* two button mouse.

w00master

Totally. When I use my trackpad, my thumb generally hovers more to the right side of the mouse button. So when I go to use a non-Apple laptop, I'm always right clicking by accident and it really throws me off.
 
Here's something I want, and it might be a bit surprising, even blasphemous, but bear with me...

I want to be able to turn the dock off. Completely. Auto-hide won't cut it. No more dock until I decide to bring it back. Gone.

All apps would be launched with Quicksilver or something similar.

Then, I want to be able to make the minimize button hide the individual window, and then set up a hot corner to show me just hidden windows.

And there'd be a trash icon on the desktop.

This isn't something I want Apple to allow me to do in system preferences, because it would be confusing at best for new users. Rather, it would be done with, say, Onyx or some other system tweaking tool. I've thought about it a lot, and I think I know enough keyboard shortcuts and whatnot to be able to get along without it.

My reason for this is because it frequently gets in my way, and I don't like autohide. Example: If I'm doing something full screen in Photoshop, the dock looks out of place sitting on top of the gray background. And if I auto-hide it, I'll forget it's even there until I inadvertently pop it back up. It gets on my nerves.
 
Here's something I want, and it might be a bit surprising, even blasphemous, but bear with me...

I want to be able to turn the dock off. Completely. Auto-hide won't cut it. No more dock until I decide to bring it back. Gone.

All apps would be launched with Quicksilver or something similar.

Then, I want to be able to make the minimize button hide the individual window, and then set up a hot corner to show me just hidden windows.

And there'd be a trash icon on the desktop.

This isn't something I want Apple to allow me to do in system preferences, because it would be confusing at best for new users. Rather, it would be done with, say, Onyx or some other system tweaking tool. I've thought about it a lot, and I think I know enough keyboard shortcuts and whatnot to be able to get along without it.

My reason for this is because it frequently gets in my way, and I don't like autohide. Example: If I'm doing something full screen in Photoshop, the dock looks out of place sitting on top of the gray background. And if I auto-hide it, I'll forget it's even there until I inadvertently pop it back up. It gets on my nerves.

Mouse accuracy FTW! :D
 
I hate that you have to purchase extra software just to get a basic word processing program so you can type a letter to a friend. They use to preload appleworks (was that the name? Its been so long) for free on even the least expensive models.

What I hate about Macs are the users it brings like you that don't take the time to "look" and see what applications come built-in with the OS rather than show their ignorance. :p
The Mac comes with a really good word processor called "TextEdit", it offers full word processing capabilities and reads the new XML file format and the documents it creates can be formatted for MS Word. Guess what? It's free.
 
Mouse accuracy FTW! :D

Yeah, I know. My hand's pretty accurate. That's not the point. I just think it takes up unnecessary screen real estate, and I find it distracting. Like I said, I don't think the ability to do this should necessarily be built in to system preferences or anything. I just want a way to do it, like with Onyx.
 
Slightly off-topic, but I hate the fact that Apple developed such a fantastic, ground-breaking product as the iPhone and then had it exclusively available on the bag of utter crap that is O2.

I love my iPhone, I absolutely hate the service.
 
Not being able to build or upgrade my system as I see fit but having to rely on Apple to offer me something compatible.
OSX should be installable on any computer instead of just the hardware that Apple chooses to sell.
The one button mouse was complete crap, too.

The Mac comes with a really good word processor called "TextEdit", it offers full word processing capabilities and reads the new XML file format and the documents it creates can be formatted for MS Word. Guess what? It's free.

Oh, please, text edit is like word pad in Windows, a cheap little utility to keep you afloat until you go out and buy yourself a real word processor.:rolleyes:
 
Here's something I want, and it might be a bit surprising, even blasphemous, but bear with me...

I want to be able to turn the dock off. Completely. Auto-hide won't cut it. No more dock until I decide to bring it back. Gone.

All apps would be launched with Quicksilver or something similar.

Then, I want to be able to make the minimize button hide the individual window, and then set up a hot corner to show me just hidden windows.

And there'd be a trash icon on the desktop.

This isn't something I want Apple to allow me to do in system preferences, because it would be confusing at best for new users. Rather, it would be done with, say, Onyx or some other system tweaking tool. I've thought about it a lot, and I think I know enough keyboard shortcuts and whatnot to be able to get along without it.

My reason for this is because it frequently gets in my way, and I don't like autohide. Example: If I'm doing something full screen in Photoshop, the dock looks out of place sitting on top of the gray background. And if I auto-hide it, I'll forget it's even there until I inadvertently pop it back up. It gets on my nerves.
I think DragThing allows you to turn off the Dock and completely replace it with their application.

Also, I wish there was a way to not have to use Finder. I'd rather use Path Finder or ForkLift.
 
You really can't wait 30 seconds to let the computer shutdown all the way??

Sometimes when you are in a hurry, it can be a pain to wait 30 seconds to let it shut down. When I tell it to shut down, it should suspend the sleep on close function because the computer knows I want it to power off, not go to sleep. I've never had a problem with shutting it down and closing the lid, but apparently some computer models are affected by it.


This is an ebay problem and not safari!

How do you know? Maybe Safari isn't 100% standards compliant. It could be a problem with eBay, but I don't think it is a good idea to just assume it is eBay's problem. I wouldn't like it at all if Apple took this approach and never fixed their own stuff because it was 'someone else's responsibility.'

If you have some data regarding the Safari-eBay problem, please post it here. Otherwise what you've said (and what I'm saying) is just conjecture.

The light is not that bright

In his opinion, apparently it is; and I would agree. When the sleeping light is the only light source in the room, it can be kind of bright. I wish they would put an ambient light sensor on the outside so it would know to dim when it is dark in my room. I would love that.

Point being, it is pretty self-centered to think that anything that isn't an immediate problem with you is no problem at all. Other people have different needs; deal with it.
 
...OSX should be installable on any computer instead of just the hardware that Apple chooses to sell...

I am so glad they don't do that. See what happened to Apple in the 90's? They had a bunch of cloneware crap, and it didn't work. They make their money on hardware, not the OS. If people bought OS X and installed it on a Dell, guess what? No OS 11 (or whatever it shall be called) because they might not be in business anymore.

Also, then Apple would have to spend a lot more time making sure the OS works on 10^n different computers instead of focusing on making an awesome product.
 
Oh, please, text edit is like word pad in Windows, a cheap little utility to keep you afloat until you go out and buy yourself a real word processor.:rolleyes:

Text edit is one hell of a light weight program and you know it. try writing something in word pad then opening it later, yeah, that so does not work.

At work I can only use word pad to view text reports, modify them and oops. Then in class I use text edit to take notes and to works nicely.

You can not expect text edit to be a full blown word processor.
 
I think DragThing allows you to turn off the Dock and completely replace it with their application.

Also, I wish there was a way to not have to use Finder. I'd rather use Path Finder or ForkLift.

You can use Onyx to add "Quit" to Finder's file menu. Check it out.
 
Text edit is one hell of a light weight program and you know it. try writing something in word pad then opening it later, yeah, that so does not work.
At work I can only use word pad to view text reports, modify them and oops. Then in class I use text edit to take notes and to works nicely.
You can not expect text edit to be a full blown word processor.

What are you talking about? You can save word pad files in rtf and open them almost anywhere, including text edit. Basic formatting like fonts, colours, etc. are retained. Even notepad in Windows saves as basic txt files that can be opened in word processors albeit without any formatting styles.
 
Whew another log on the fire...

Notepad > Textedit, because: I can paste any gunk into notepad, and I get ASCII text. A fair comparison of text program would be Wordpad ~= Textedit.

When I say MAXIMIZE I don't mean zoom-some-of-the-way or maybe even unzoom. I said MAXIMIZE!

I don't want to practice yoga to handle the keyboard 'shortcuts'. I have to look like a crippled gimp decyphering Egyptian hieroglyphics when using some 'shortcuts'.

Some shortcuts are consistent between programs, many are not. Just switching from the macbook keyboard to a physical keyboard changes basic shortcut behavior.

Why isn't common-sense behavior applied to basic functions? For example, if I press delete while a file is highlighted, why doesn't the file delete? Why do I have to spend 4 times the effort to delete a file? "Just use command-delete or drag it to the trash noob!" Perhaps you have time to waste all day going through monotonous hoops like manually turning the starter on your car, using a 6 character passcode on the door, then doing a visual inspection of your steering column for proper alignment before accomplishing any actual driving - every time you use your vehicle. Sure doing this once maybe on a weekend is nice, but if I'm running errands, my car better go right now without guff. Why do I even have to think about such things?

I don't like the general mac user mentality that Apple is as good as it gets, *snicker chuckle* pfft listen to that guy/loser. Thinking different is apparently an alias to tunnel vision views on features/functionality of comparable platforms. I'm always open to improving my mac experience being the BSD lover I am. Any experienced windows user in a fast paced environment understands the need for reduced complexity, and especially speed-of-execution.

Finder frankly sucks, the big one. Explorer wins on file management hands down.

Apple inadvertently creates unnecessary over-complexities by over-simplifying basic functions. However it's the only system I've been able to mux two usb flash drives together as a raid-0 device as easy as sticking in the drives, and other simplicities.

btw, vista sucks ass too, however XP won't be dying anytime soon. OSX is sexy, or maybe metro. My >2c.
 
Ok. Just to make it clear. No OS bundles a full fledged word processor. The Operating System is not about programs. It would be great if iWork also came with every Mac but it doesnt. Just like Office doesn't come with every new PC.
 
Whew another log on the fire...

Notepad > Textedit, because: I can paste any gunk into notepad, and I get ASCII text. A fair comparison of text program would be Wordpad ~= Textedit.

If you want TextEdit to default to plain text mode (more like Notepad) open TextEdit and open it's preferences. Under the New Document tab ensure that Plain text is chosen under Format.

Easy.
 
- When you shut down a notebook, you can't close the lid or it will go to sleep mid shut down.

- eBay never works properly with Safari!

Thought seeing as this was the first post I saw then I should comment that I agree with you!

Not major gripes, but little annoying things!
 
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