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- The green 'plus' button in the top corner of windows is very inconsistent - can't it simply make the window as big as the screen?
paste this into your browser:
javascript:self.moveTo(0,0);self.resizeTo(screen.availWidth,screen.availHeight);
drag it to the far left position of your bookmarks bar and when you want a full screen just press Apple + 1 and the screen resizes.
- The green 'plus' button in the top corner of windows is very inconsistent - can't it simply make the window as big as the screen?
paste this into your browser:
javascript:self.moveTo(0,0);self.resizeTo(screen.availWidth,screen.availHeight);
drag it to the far left position of your bookmarks bar and when you want a full screen just press Apple + 1 and the screen resizes.
Alright, I'm feeling rant-y.
Some of these will be repeats. These things have a huge impact on my experience, though, and I still dislike OS X as a whole.
- Let me resize from four corners. At least two. Why the hell not? It doesn't make sense. I love how Apple forcefully disabled four corner resizing in Safari for Windows, it mystifies and bothers me. It degrades usability, that is not deniable (it takes two actions rather than one to widen a window located on the right edge of the screen, for example).
- I agree on all of the complaints that I've read about the green window button.
- My Macbook Pro has come shockingly close to burning my skin. I'll feel it get extremely hot on my lap, and when I go to pick it up, if I touch that back edge it' unbearably painful. It happens on a desk, too, but usually it's inactive for a few moments before I pick it up in that case, so it's just the top edge on top of the keyboard that gets extremely hot. This, however, I'm somewhat willing to forgive, as 2.4GHz is a lot for a laptop, especially when the hardware enclosure is 3/4 of an inch thick, including the keyboard. I do ask for a lot from the machine (but I did pay for that).
- Creative Suite is pretty much limited to the default monitor unless you know every single shortcut in the program (which still wouldn't do it as many things don't use shortcuts), as the menu bar remains on one screen. Why can't I have Photoshop and Illustrator side-by-side?
- This is a third party thing, but holy hell VLC crashes a lot. Especially when playing media over a network. The thing crashes, on average, at least once with every movie I watch (even extremely short ones). Seriously, if you know of an alternative that isn't bloody Quicktime, let me know. I can't find one.
- Finder has so many usability issues it's ridiculous. It's a terrible interface for file management, and years behind Explorer - thing is, Apple doesn't seem to care about those incredibly glaring issues. Somebody already mentioned the flaw in resizing a window using Cover Flow - more items, I'm fine with the amount of cover flow - if I wasn't, I'd use the appropriate resizing element. No cutting. No renaming, moving, deleting, or modifying of any sort other than creating a new folder in an OS browse or save window. No modification of the left headers. Can't drag the trash onto the left menu. Let me customize the columns in Finder properly - that includes in Browse windows. Where's my directory up button? I realize there is FINALLY a path bar in Finder (what in the hell were you supposed to do before? I constantly found myself staying at a folder, back/forward buttons grayed out, trying to work out how the hell to get to a different folder), but that does not cut it. Double-clicking on a folder in the path bar is not alright, especially when you're twelve folders deep and have to mouse over every one of them to find the one you want.
- The Bluetooth Mighty Mouse, holy crap, I shouldn't even start. There is no product in this world I despise more. That says a lot, considering that I find the tracking, battery life, and reception all to be very good, which are obviously huge points - thing is, literally EVERYTHING else absolutely sucks, yet it's been the offering from Apple for years - though before that it was even worse, which is hard to imagine. A little while ago I write a long email to Apple about the product and why I know it is absolutely disgusting from usability, ergonomics, and design points of view. After a couple follow up emails, I was reimbursed the cost of the mouse, purchased about eight months prior. I'll dig that up and post it if somebody wants it. Oh, and why, might I ask, do the mouse preferences default to a single-click mouse? It's as though Apple still reserves that they're right, only one button is necessary.
- 10.5.1 gave us a couple more options for Stacks. Why, two further versions later, can I still not have them open as folders, like in Tiger?
- I'll love you forever if you put one more USB port in my 15" Macbook Pro.
- Oh my god let me scroll through prompt buttons with the keyboard. Just let me do it. While I'm on the subject, why the bloody hell are there more than two visual states for those buttons? If one's circled in blue and one is pulsing blue and another has a unicorn prancing on it, just what am I supposed to assume will happen when I hit Enter?
- MSN in iChat? Please? Your home country might be all over AOL's service, but in Canada we go for the lesser of two evils for the most part, Microsoft. It's a virtual paperweight in my Applications folder.
- File Vault on a per-folder basis, please. Some of us have to actually be able to work with the files on our notebooks' hard drives at a speed that justifies the machine's price tag, and can live with less than every single item on their hard drive being encrypted.
- Give me a screen lock shortcut. I know you can put a Keychain item up there, and that's a decent solution, but really, just give me a shortcut. Please.
- Let me pick up where I left off with a Time Machine backup if I decide to format and start fresh. I know I'm asking for a lot here, unlike everything else, but I really hate that one wipe of all your backups you have to do in order to start backing up your newly formatted machine.
- iCal 3 was the worst move ever. Inline editing absolutely sucks. It's awkward, and blatantly obvious that the goal was to look pretty rather than maintain usability, the reason for most of my issues with Apple's stuff. Also, let me select periods of time other than what's in the drop-down for 'Remind me in' in the Reminders windows for scheduled events.
I have so, so many more significant issues, but I'm pretty sure they're all related to an issue with my logic board, which I'm getting replaced soon. I sincerely hope that's the issue, because if not, well, wow.
Some of these will be repeats. These things have a huge impact on my experience, though, and I still dislike OS X as a whole.
- Let me resize from four corners. At least two. Why the hell not? It doesn't make sense. I love how Apple forcefully disabled four corner resizing in Safari for Windows, it mystifies and bothers me. It degrades usability, that is not deniable (it takes two actions rather than one to widen a window located on the right edge of the screen, for example).
- I agree on all of the complaints that I've read about the green window button.
- My Macbook Pro has come shockingly close to burning my skin. I'll feel it get extremely hot on my lap, and when I go to pick it up, if I touch that back edge it' unbearably painful. It happens on a desk, too, but usually it's inactive for a few moments before I pick it up in that case, so it's just the top edge on top of the keyboard that gets extremely hot. This, however, I'm somewhat willing to forgive, as 2.4GHz is a lot for a laptop, especially when the hardware enclosure is 3/4 of an inch thick, including the keyboard. I do ask for a lot from the machine (but I did pay for that).
- Creative Suite is pretty much limited to the default monitor unless you know every single shortcut in the program (which still wouldn't do it as many things don't use shortcuts), as the menu bar remains on one screen. Why can't I have Photoshop and Illustrator side-by-side?
- This is a third party thing, but holy hell VLC crashes a lot. Especially when playing media over a network. The thing crashes, on average, at least once with every movie I watch (even extremely short ones). Seriously, if you know of an alternative that isn't bloody Quicktime, let me know. I can't find one.
- Finder has so many usability issues it's ridiculous. It's a terrible interface for file management, and years behind Explorer - thing is, Apple doesn't seem to care about those incredibly glaring issues. Somebody already mentioned the flaw in resizing a window using Cover Flow - more items, I'm fine with the amount of cover flow - if I wasn't, I'd use the appropriate resizing element. No cutting. No renaming, moving, deleting, or modifying of any sort other than creating a new folder in an OS browse or save window. No modification of the left headers. Can't drag the trash onto the left menu. Let me customize the columns in Finder properly - that includes in Browse windows. Where's my directory up button? I realize there is FINALLY a path bar in Finder (what in the hell were you supposed to do before? I constantly found myself staying at a folder, back/forward buttons grayed out, trying to work out how the hell to get to a different folder), but that does not cut it. Double-clicking on a folder in the path bar is not alright, especially when you're twelve folders deep and have to mouse over every one of them to find the one you want.
- The Bluetooth Mighty Mouse, holy crap, I shouldn't even start. There is no product in this world I despise more. That says a lot, considering that I find the tracking, battery life, and reception all to be very good, which are obviously huge points - thing is, literally EVERYTHING else absolutely sucks, yet it's been the offering from Apple for years - though before that it was even worse, which is hard to imagine. A little while ago I write a long email to Apple about the product and why I know it is absolutely disgusting from usability, ergonomics, and design points of view. After a couple follow up emails, I was reimbursed the cost of the mouse, purchased about eight months prior. I'll dig that up and post it if somebody wants it. Oh, and why, might I ask, do the mouse preferences default to a single-click mouse? It's as though Apple still reserves that they're right, only one button is necessary.
- 10.5.1 gave us a couple more options for Stacks. Why, two further versions later, can I still not have them open as folders, like in Tiger?
- I'll love you forever if you put one more USB port in my 15" Macbook Pro.
- Oh my god let me scroll through prompt buttons with the keyboard. Just let me do it. While I'm on the subject, why the bloody hell are there more than two visual states for those buttons? If one's circled in blue and one is pulsing blue and another has a unicorn prancing on it, just what am I supposed to assume will happen when I hit Enter?
- MSN in iChat? Please? Your home country might be all over AOL's service, but in Canada we go for the lesser of two evils for the most part, Microsoft. It's a virtual paperweight in my Applications folder.
- File Vault on a per-folder basis, please. Some of us have to actually be able to work with the files on our notebooks' hard drives at a speed that justifies the machine's price tag, and can live with less than every single item on their hard drive being encrypted.
- Give me a screen lock shortcut. I know you can put a Keychain item up there, and that's a decent solution, but really, just give me a shortcut. Please.
- Let me pick up where I left off with a Time Machine backup if I decide to format and start fresh. I know I'm asking for a lot here, unlike everything else, but I really hate that one wipe of all your backups you have to do in order to start backing up your newly formatted machine.
- iCal 3 was the worst move ever. Inline editing absolutely sucks. It's awkward, and blatantly obvious that the goal was to look pretty rather than maintain usability, the reason for most of my issues with Apple's stuff. Also, let me select periods of time other than what's in the drop-down for 'Remind me in' in the Reminders windows for scheduled events.
I have so, so many more significant issues, but I'm pretty sure they're all related to an issue with my logic board, which I'm getting replaced soon. I sincerely hope that's the issue, because if not, well, wow.
1) It's a notebook. It is meant to be put on a hard surface. Not everyone does this, hell I never do. I'm laying down right now on my bed with my laptop on my stomach. It's just something that we have to deal with like you said.
2/3) Those are more-so Application specific problems and not Apple's fault
4) The Finder is 1000X better then Explorer. All you have to do to go to the "home" is click on My HD on the left or click on "User". Trash... I have it in my dock, whats the need? I use Column view. Much easier. Switch folders easier. Don't use coverflow. It slows down my laptop a bit and I find it annoying in some situations. "No cutting. No renaming, moving, deleting, or modifying of any sort other than creating a new folder in an OS browse or save window. " I have no idea what you are trying to say here...
5)
+ Left Click on any stack... Simple, easy.6) 100% possible. I have done it. Search Google. It is not perfect, but its quite easy to get it running and it works fine. I love it.
7) Not too sure on this one, but I think its possible.
1) It's a notebook. It is meant to be put on a hard surface. Not everyone does this, hell I never do. I'm laying down right now on my bed with my laptop on my stomach. It's just something that we have to deal with like you said.
2/3) Those are more-so Application specific problems and not Apple's fault
4) The Finder is 1000X better then Explorer. All you have to do to go to the "home" is click on My HD on the left or click on "User". Trash... I have it in my dock, whats the need? I use Column view. Much easier. Switch folders easier. Don't use coverflow. It slows down my laptop a bit and I find it annoying in some situations. "No cutting. No renaming, moving, deleting, or modifying of any sort other than creating a new folder in an OS browse or save window. " I have no idea what you are trying to say here...
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6) 100% possible. I have done it. Search Google. It is not perfect, but its quite easy to get it running and it works fine. I love it.
7) Not too sure on this one, but I think its possible.
1) I notice it when I do it on my lap, as I said, but as I also mentioned, it gets equally hot on a desk over the course of a day's work - if I were to close the thing and pick it up by the back end, I would probably come close to dropping it.
2) True, but Adobe really doesn't have any way to get around this, do they? It's an issue of accommodation, and in this case, for an application suite that just about every user on one of Apple's pro systems uses regularly.
4) But Explorer lets me navigate directly to anywhere, rather than starying from the root. When you get into ten plus folders drrp from, say, your documents folder, and want to go one or two up, you can see why the up' button makes things much easier. I'm sure we've all developed our ways of doing it in Finder, but you have to admit, you shouldn't really have to develop a way. There shouldn't really be any thinking about it or taking the long route, so to speak. I use coverflow for fonts, sometimes pictures or folders of logos and mockup revisions. Saying 'don't use that feature' doesn't really solve the issue. I use column view occasionally, but it offers no file information (how about pointer tips? Mouseover bubbles that show you what CMD+I otherwise does?) and makes it difficult sometimes to drag files around. As for what I meant by that last bit, it is a little bit difficult to explain - The OS save/browse window being what comes up in almost every application when you want to either choose where to save a file or choose a file to open/import/do whatever with, it does not allow you to manipulate files from within that window. That might not seem like a big idea, but there are plenty of scenarios I run into each day where my life would become much easier if I could rename a file as I'm saving another, or as I'm opening one. Some applications don't like overwriting other files of the same name, so you'd just be able to rename it or delete it on the fly. It should basically be a Finder window, but instead, it's a crippled one. You also can't choose your columns there for a more advanced view of your files. Windows treats those dialogues as normal Explorer windows, allowing the same level of file handling as otherwise possible.
5) Didn't know that, thanks! I'd still like them to be simple shortcuts, though (without dragging aliases to the dock).
6) Didn't know there was a way, had not checked, but I'd really just like native integration. Doesn't it make sense?
7) It is POSSIBLE, but it's a hacky method that involves, essentially, giving focus to the menu bar, scrolling to the menu item, and selecting the lock option. It's just silly, considering that it's WIN+L on Windows.
Not arguing, right, discussing. =)
Set up a screen corner for activation of screensaver. Then go System Preferences -> Security and check the first checkbox in the General tab.
I got tired of not having a lock shortcut too, but a decent workaround is to make one of your hot corners (expose) start the screensaver. It's just as easy to move my mouse to the bottom left as it would be to hit a key combo.
Works well for me, I'm happy with it.
About VLC, I don't use it over a network connection, but I've never had it crash on me before - I do like it, but I'm wondering if there's anything else (just to try) aside from Quicktime. (I'm not thrilled with QT's interface.)
-Bryan
Edit: Looks like eXan got to it before I did
Works well for me, I'm happy with it.
About VLC, I don't use it over a network connection, but I've never had it crash on me before - I do like it, but I'm wondering if there's anything else (just to try) aside from Quicktime. (I'm not thrilled with QT's interface.)
-Bryan
Edit: Looks like eXan got to it before I did
no software
just started my search for a new cad program. Two of the four industry leaders I priced had no OS X compatible software available.
Luckily my I-mac seems to be running windows like a champ.
just started my search for a new cad program. Two of the four industry leaders I priced had no OS X compatible software available.
Luckily my I-mac seems to be running windows like a champ.
Agreed on the corner resizing and pointless zoom button, even after 4 years of using Macs. Their answer to this is it's because we came from Windows, but it seems like "usability" common sense to me. It's just something that needs to be accepted as "The Mac Way" - the veterans seem to like it that way so I guess it'd be unfair on them if they changed things just to please the Windows newbie crowd.
You get used to it, and to be honest I'd never maximize anything with the size of modern displays anyway, it was just a habit from the 1024x768 days.
Regarding skin-sizzle laptops. They're all like that. I guess MBPs are a little worse due to being aluminium, but I'd rather put something underneath it than be stuck with some rickety plastic thing (like the standard Macbooks hehe). Just don't sue them, I wouldn't want to have "warning: gets hot" stamped on every surface because someone couldn't follow common sense
CS is a third party issue. VLC is a third party issue (though I've had no problems with VLC myself).
Agreed re: Finder being a bit crappy... again, this is probably just what the veterans are used to. My main gripes are that you have to use the menu to open a new window (as opposed to the dock icon) if there's one open already, and that the finder has the "hide everything" mode that it sometimes picks by itself. This isn't very intuitive for new users - this really highlights itself when you have a .dmg and it tells you to drag the icon into Applications. There's no sidebar on a .dmg window, so on your first time you get puzzled and try clicking on the finder dock icon. This does nothing, and eventually you figure out you have to pick "New Finder Window" tucked away in the menu and drag-drop between them. I'd kill for something like "Right click->Send to->Applications" a la Windoze.
-click on the title bar to see the folders between root and your current folder as a list... this is actually better than the "go up a level" button IMHO but you have to get in the habit.Yes, the Mighty Mouse is crap. It's one of those few occasions where the pro-PC crowd would use their old favourite "Form over Function" argument for Apple bashing, and they'd actually have a point. As soon as you have anything that requires you to use both mouse buttons at the same time (many games), you're screwed. Also I find that unless I hold the mouse in some weird RSI-inducing way, it's very easy to trigger the side buttons when picking the mouse up (for those long across-the-screen file dragging operations brought on by the half arsed Finder!), at least on the wired one.
I actually prefer the Bluetooth one as the side buttons require a real good *squeeze* to trigger. Mice have never been Apple's strong point though - get a Logitech or even *cough*Microsoft one.
The rest are just wishlists....
I agree better keyboard support in the UI would be nice - there are ways of getting to UI elements with the keyboard, but they're not a patch on the Alt+(underlined letter) method that the other OSes use. On the positive side, apps tend to be consistent with the CMD-(letter) shortcut keys for triggering commands, which doesn't apply so much on Windows, so it balances out.
More USB ports are always welcome, and Apple are always stingy with them. Hubs are your friend, although this is less practical with a laptop.
MSN from iChat... hahahaha dream on. That would require an unprecedented level of attention and co-operation from Microsoft (MS Office is different in that you pay for it so it's in their best interests). The best we're going to get is that unsupported client they did years ago - mostly for businesses as part of the Office stuff - and haven't really touched since. Adium or aMSN are the way to go.
Encrypted folders - well, you can always create an encrypted DMG and dump stuff in that. It's not perfectly neat, but it works.
Screen lock shortcut - I'm thinking you can probably do that in Automator? There'll be some third party way otherwise I should imagine.
Good luck with the logic board. I'm sure they'll look after you - let's not forget there are a lot of positive points to using a Mac (when compared to the pros and lots and lots of cons to using a PC), one of them being superb customer service.
Keyboard Shortcuts
You Need To Hold The Apple Key Down And Press The Backspace Key To Send Stuff To The Trash. Furthermore, To Empty Trash You Hold Shift, Apple And Press Backspace
You Need To Hold The Apple Key Down And Press The Backspace Key To Send Stuff To The Trash. Furthermore, To Empty Trash You Hold Shift, Apple And Press Backspace
For new Finder window I usually either press Cmd-N or open any folder or a HD.
As for installing from DMGs with drag and drops, I agree its bad that they don't have the full window "features" by default, so I just click on the button on the right side of the window's title to expand it to full Finder window.
One Thing About The Apple OS's Are That They Are Much Like The Old Computer Games Of The 90's; There Are Many Hidden "Cheats", Keyboard Shortcuts Etc - Some Are Documented, Some Are Passed On And Some You Just Find Yourself.
To Address Some Of The Finder Rant, There Was Always A Way To Access The "Path" Folders, You Just Apple Click The Title Of The Finder Window ( This Is A Throwback To OS 9 ). You Can Also Do This In Application Windows Too, Such As Safari Which Will Act As The "Back History" Button, And In , For Example, Text Edit, Which Will Show You The Path Where The Document Resides.( In Text Edit, You Can Also Drag The Icon In The Title To A New Location To Save The Document There ).
If You Are In A Folder With No Back Button, Either Change To Column View ( But Sometimes This Still Won't Help ) Or Press Apple And The Up Arrow Key - The Latter Will Always Open The Enclosing Folder.
This Addresses Some Of Your Finder Points, But Like I Said There Are Hundreds Of Hidden And Not So Hidden Shortcuts, Such As Holding Down Control, Alt And Apple With The Eject Key Will Shut Down The Computer With No "Are you Sure" Dialogue. There Are Variations Of This To Make The Computer Hibernate, Sleep, etc Too.
Experiment With Open Menus ( Contextual Or From The Menu Bar ) By Pressing The Alt Button And Watch The Menu Options Change, Eg Click The Safari->File Menu, And Hold Down Alt To Make The Option Change From "Close Tab" To "Close Other Tabs", etc.
As For The Screenlock, I Often Find Clicking "login Window" From The Fast User Switching Menu A Really Quick Way To Lock Your Computer. I'm Sure Theres A Way To Set This Up As A Shortcut, Should You Really Need It.
Barney
Usually These Days They Include A Shortcut To The Applications Folder, Next To The Icon, With A Message "Drag This To Here" Or Something, But I Half Agree With You That The Installation Implementation On OS X Is Not Quite As Good As With Windows - On The Other Hand I Get Annoyed When My Start Menu And Desktop Get Cluttered Up With Lots Of Shortcuts And Stuff.
Barney
Agreed, it's a different OS and we can't expect everything to be the same, but it just doesn't make sense in this case. Especially given the way they forcefully disabled it in Safari on WINDOWS. It is, again, as though they actually believe this more limited way of doing things is superior.
I don't even want to maximize windows, so much, as be able to predict what that button will do. Once I tried to maximize iTunes, and discovered it turns it into the mini player. There's no easy to grasp pattern.
Regarding skin-sizzle laptops. They're all like that. I guess MBPs are a little worse due to being aluminium, but I'd rather put something underneath it than be stuck with some rickety plastic thing (like the standard Macbooks hehe). Just don't sue them, I wouldn't want to have "warning: gets hot" stamped on every surface because someone couldn't follow common sense
I'm willing to accept the heat issue, as I mentioned, when considering the power under the top on this laptop. It's very, very high powered for a laptop of this form factor. I love the slimness and the aluminum shell, though, and for me it makes up for that heat - it's still a weak point, though, that it's not only Apple having the issue is irrelevant. It calls for improvement and innovation.
Well, I would have said that too (about Adobe Creative Suite), but as I mentioned in my last post, the OS itself is not accommodating of a creative suite (from any company) making its home on a secondary monitor.
I use CMD+N in Finder, that works just fine for me - I'm big in general on keyboard shortcuts, so that's not an issue in my opinion. Agreed on the DMG click and drag.
Didn't know that, thanks!
The 'form over function' argument stands as very true in many cases, though, that's why it's still used (by intelligent people, yes, some people just look for things to bash). This case is an extreme, though. There are a ridiculous number of terrible design choices in that product. I'll be extremely brief: Can't take the thing apart easily despite the scroll wheel getting dirty in no time and failing, the clip on the battery cover is extremely flimsy, the rim around the base wears down extremely fast and causes a stupid amount of friction, the thing will not right click sometimes (have to bang it around or reconnect), the OS X settins by default disable right clock and assign useless functions to the side and middle click.
I would, oh I would, but there really aren't any solid desktop sized bluetooth mice out there. At home have a Logitech MX1000, I've had it for two years and it has not let me down once. It's possibly the most ergonomic device I've used.
Generally speaking, you're absolutely right, keyboard shortcut support is very universal and fluid. That has something to do with the way Apple developers seem to actually talk to one another and aim for this fluidity.
I just envy the third port on the 17".
Adium is brilliant, I wouldn't switch even if I did add the capability to iChat - this isn't so much an issue I have as something that should be corrected.
Actually I think the installation implementation on Windows is awful for some of the reasons you've mentioned. You have to sit and wait while it carefully places all the individual files in their special locations (often taking a looong time) and then insists on shoving icons on your desktop, quick start and system tray. Then you go to uninstall, and cross your fingers. A small minority of Mac software uses the package mentality too, and it's an unpleasant reminder, albeit necessary for system plugins etc.
On OS X in most cases, you just drag an icon. Much quicker and much easier to undo.
My only issue is the thing with .dmg files opening without the sidebar - easy enough to resolve once you know how (hit the lozenge button or whatever) but it annoys me since installing apps is one of the first things newbies do, and it gives them a negative first impression. Often they're already approaching the Mac with an attitude of "oh this looks so complicated", especially if they're used to Windoze.
Open them up with the sidebar (fix it in Snow Leopard) and *then* it's a perfect installation system. It's just one silly little behaviour that spoils the whole thing.
True. Apple get a bit hypocritical sometimes when compared to their preaching about how developers should follow the host system's UI guidelines.
Also true. Big usability no-no, the type that guru Jakob Nielsen tends to use in his "User Interface Hall of Shame". If anything I would expect to see a 'lozenge' button with that behaviour instead, as with Finder. Apple don't get everything right with the UI stuff, which is odd as they're top class in most of it (e.g. using verbs in dialog boxes instead of OK/Cancel) - and yet they fail spectacularly at some of the basics.
Let's hope they polish up things like this with Snow Leopard.
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There are a lot of hidden things in OS X that you learn over the years. Same can actually be said for Windows, but in OS X it's some of the 'basics' that are hidden.Maybe. It's subjective. They are guilty of it on occasions such as the mouse, and the 3D dock (which I have turned off). I haven't had the mouse issues you mentioned, just the ones I did.
The right click thing has always been one of their stubborn points; the MM is the first Apple mouse to even support it at all. They say it makes things easier for complete computer newbies - probably true enough, I've watched them myself - randomly choosing between LMB and RMB on PCs and wondering why menus keep popping up.
I don't think form-over-function applies quite as much as the Mac bashing crowd like to believe though. Apple usually like to give you the cake and let you eat it
I'm sure there are *some* decent BT mice out there, but I agree there's a gap in the market. Usually it's either BT laptop mice or Proprietary 2.4GHz desktop mice with dongles.
Yeah... they too aren't perfect. Just a lot better than the likes of PC World
They usually quote 7 days, at least with iMacs, which is a long time to be stuck without something that you tend to almost accept as part of yourself. And yes, you'll be hard pushed to squeeze a Shiny New Replacement Mac out of them... definite wishful thinking there
Especially if it's more than a few months old. Nothing too unusual IMO.
im not gonna tke the time to read all 57 pages so if its been said and i post it again then oh well
Name any other "purpose" for which "macs" would not be your first choice and explain why.
Finding a Decent Full Size Mouse?
"I would, oh I would, but there really aren't any solid desktop sized bluetooth mice out there. At home have a Logitech MX1000, I've had it for two years and it has not let me down once. It's possibly the most ergonomic device I've used."
Gotta agree with this post. I really need a BIG mouse, the little apple one causes me some serious RSI cramps. And being left handed makes the field even smaller. And it seems every manufacturer believes that if we're buying a bluetooth mouse then we want it 'notebook' sized - NO!!. So if anyone out there finds a decent full size bluetooth mouse PLEASE let me know!!
"I would, oh I would, but there really aren't any solid desktop sized bluetooth mice out there. At home have a Logitech MX1000, I've had it for two years and it has not let me down once. It's possibly the most ergonomic device I've used."
Gotta agree with this post. I really need a BIG mouse, the little apple one causes me some serious RSI cramps. And being left handed makes the field even smaller. And it seems every manufacturer believes that if we're buying a bluetooth mouse then we want it 'notebook' sized - NO!!. So if anyone out there finds a decent full size bluetooth mouse PLEASE let me know!!
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