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So what do you think about Macs/Apple OS?

  • They are superb and could not be better

    Votes: 305 22.9%
  • They're good but have a few niggles

    Votes: 879 65.9%
  • For everything I like there's something I don't like

    Votes: 106 8.0%
  • I prefer Microsoft PCs

    Votes: 43 3.2%

  • Total voters
    1,333
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^ are you sure you waiting for it to go to sleep first? you have to wait until the sleep light starts pulsating. when you sleep a MacBook it saves your current state to hard disk so if you lose power you can resume the saved state (hibernation) so it takes a little while.

i use a Terminal command to disable this so i get ultra fast sleep and wake times. more details here.
 
i dislike the way that it doesnt have a built in way to uninstall all of most applications, such as packaged apps like Delicious Library which leave bits all over the place
 
Love my Macbook. A few things I don't like:
-The green button doesn't maximize. I like my web browser, among other things, to take up my entire 13" screen.
-The sleep button can't be disabled. SO annoying, especially as the foot of my bed directly faces my computer desk. I've taken to putting a handkerchief over it.
-Safari doesn't come with a banner ad blocking feature. As thus, I have to download plugins... and watch them die every time Safari is updated.
-iChat doesn't support Yahoo accounts. I'm forced to use YM for Mac, a buggy app that's been in beta for years, quits constantly, and that Yahoo couldn't care less about. I like Yahoo mail, but not YIM on the Mac.
 
I just remembered something else also. The update procedure is terrible, horrible and insufferable. Too many times you have to reboot your machine just because of a small update and then after the restart go on with the other updates. Not mention how often the update process screws up and you end up having to jump through hoops with finding and deleting files in order to fix it.

I sure hope Apple will take a long hard look at their update process and come up with something more worthy of OS X for snow leopard.
 
i hate the green button too - haha, what i hate about mac's is more everyone else's fault - ie some websites won't work - need a pc, and other little buggy things - but i love my mac

What i really hate is being a mac user and then trying to use a pc - i get so confused, haha, i can never find where i downloaded something or how to open it, mac's are so much easier - you can have to same explorer finder option on a mac, but i get annoyed with the cut thing too, drives me nuts

But overall, i love my mac!!

:apple:
 
-The sleep button can't be disabled. SO annoying, especially as the foot of my bed directly faces my computer desk. I've taken to putting a handkerchief over it.

hahahahaha - i have had bandaids, stickers, jumpers, teddy bears... - at the moment i have a sticker from ikea which matches the pattern of my wardrobe...

i love my mac :apple:
 
The green button doesn't maximize. I like my web browser, among other things, to take up my entire 13" screen.

Why would I want to maximise my browser on a 24" display, when I've got a number of other apps running which I am also working with?
 
Why would I want to maximise my browser on a 24" display, when I've got a number of other apps running which I am also working with?

That reminds me of how it makes me laugh to see people in Apple Stores checking Facebook in Safari that's maximised to fill a 30" display...
 
Why would I want to maximise my browser on a 24" display, when I've got a number of other apps running which I am also working with?

Well if you personally can't use the feature, clearly it should not exist.

Spaces and expose should probably go as well since they might cater to wanting a window maximized. heresy!
 
Why would I want to maximise my browser on a 24" display, when I've got a number of other apps running which I am also working with?
It took me some time to come round to understand the Mac way of window handling. In fact it was it was Blue Velvet's explanation on these forums that re-educated me out of my MS Windows habit.

I rarly use a full screen window on my MacBook now, even with it's 13" screen. Most websites are better viewed in the intended format, which can be achieved using the green button, and likewise I found most application workspaces are well catered for using it.

Would I change it at all? I like it to recognise that I trust it and change the window size as I flit from site to site to suit I guess, but then that might be very annoying too??
 
From Windows to MAC

I'm a newbe to the MAC environment, but I have dabbled with Apple for over 20 years. I would have to say from the performance perspective MAC seems to do much better than Windows (Vista or XP, actually runs these OSs better in a VM than on a physical machine). From the OS perspective; i.e. managing files, deinstalling applications, finding running applications, general business work with Entourage, printing; the MAC environment has left quite a bit to be desired.

File management (or lack of) is one of the biggest issues I have, and Windows wins hands down. I can't believe after 25-30 years, MAC has still not done much with file management. Add a simple Cut and Paste the right mouse click. The "Cut" command does not delete the file until the paste command is used, this way the file won't get lost if the paste action is not performed.

Oh, and what the heck is this "Copy Folder" BS. If you copy a folder with the same name into a directory, and tell it to go, it replaces the existing folder and contents with the pasted one. The old folder and contents are permanently deleted; NO RECOVERY. I was flabbergasted when I tested that function. How can a company like Apple allow this capability (or lack of) to continue, especially in this day and age of computers.

- disappointed MAC user
 
Well if you personally can't use the feature, clearly it should not exist.

That's only clear to you if you twist my words. I would have no problems if Apple wanted to add another button for those who feel the need to only work with one app at a time. I would never use it, but to criticise a feature and platform without understanding its purpose or even not making an attempt to adapt to some changes is hardly guaranteed to elicit sympathy.
 
Well if you personally can't use the feature, clearly it should not exist.

But the option to max out the window does exist, you just have to drag the window out manually; the green button (as I understand it) makes the window the 'best' size for the content based on the preference of whoever built the site application.

Maybe what you mean is that clearly there is a demand for a 4th button to exist to go full screen regardless of content.
 
That's only clear to you if you twist my words. I would have no problems if Apple wanted to add another button for those who feel the need to only work with one app at a time. I would never use it, but to criticise a feature and platform without understanding its purpose or even not making an attempt to adapt to some changes is hardly guaranteed to elicit sympathy.

Nobody "criticized the feature without understanding it's purpose". In fact, if you actually read the posts by myself and most of the others that have mentioned it, you'll learn that we do understand the the difference between the green + and windows maximize buttons. And I didn't twist your words in any way. It was and is still very clear what you intended to convey. You consider anyone that complains about the lack of a maximize button to be ignorant and lazy, despite the fact that we have explained our opinions to show as much understanding about the subject as you have.

"without understanding its purpose or even not making an attempt to adapt". Your own words. Not twisted. They are very clear.
 
In fact, if you actually read the posts by myself and most of the others that have mentioned it


I don't recall responding to your post in this instance. But you know what the green button does and what it's for. Thanks for sharing. :)
 
Even if I don't "understand" the feature, I know what I personally want it to be. There should be an option to make the green button a "maximize" button, for those who so wish.
 
I just remembered something else also. The update procedure is terrible, horrible and insufferable. Too many times you have to reboot your machine just because of a small update and then after the restart go on with the other updates.

Yeah, that's true. It's just as bad on the Windows side though, in fact often worse - if you're one of these who leaves things open in the middle of something and goes to bed (and why not... a computer should be a tool that you use in a way that suits you) you will often find that it's rebooted itself overnight to install those oh-so-important updates! You can turn off auto update, but then it nags you to insanity with balloons.

The OS X update procedure isn't much better though, and for some reason they made it even worse in Leopard by forcing you to log out first instead of just installing them while you do something else and rebooting at your leisure.

Oh, and what the heck is this "Copy Folder" BS. If you copy a folder with the same name into a directory, and tell it to go, it replaces the existing folder and contents with the pasted one. The old folder and contents are permanently deleted; NO RECOVERY.

Hahaha. Yeah, I fell for that one myself when I was new, and there was no Time Machine to save me from my blunder. But I was angry at myself for being a computer expert of 15+ years and making such a simple mistake based on a wild assumption of how the OS would work, rather than being angry at Apple.

It's the first thing I warn potential Windows-to-Mac converts about, on the occasions that I can still encourage them to convert to the Mac (display issues makes this more difficult nowadays). It's actually logical though. You are replacing the folder, it is literally correct. But I do kind of agree that *any* kind of destructive operation - other than delete of course - is bad design.

Even if I don't "understand" the feature, I know what I personally want it to be. There should be an option to make the green button a "maximize" button, for those who so wish.

I still fail to see why people actually argue against this, often quite viciously. Not everyone is suggesting the behaviour is changed, so they wouldn't lose anything. Something like an alt-click doesn't seem unreasonable or difficult! Just not Apple's priority I guess.
 
Funny,
I Actually Remember The OS9 ( Or Perhaps Even OS X ) Version of Microsoft Internet Explorer Having A Feature Like This, Where The Button On Is Own Would Give The "Best Size" Window, Whilst [Apple] Clicking Would Maximise To Full Screen.
 
Not really a Mac issue but msn support is a bit bad. I know you can download apps like Amsn but why cant Microsoft produce a full version of Live msn for mac??
 
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