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So what do you think about Macs/Apple OS?

  • They are superb and could not be better

    Votes: 305 22.9%
  • They're good but have a few niggles

    Votes: 879 65.9%
  • For everything I like there's something I don't like

    Votes: 106 8.0%
  • I prefer Microsoft PCs

    Votes: 43 3.2%

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all of the macs or most are niche products.
they need a midrange tower thats upgradeable and they will really get alot of customers.
 
This may have been mentioned already...

I HATE when I have to empty the trash in order to remove a file from a USB stick. This happens fairly often as I add and delete files from USB sticks on the fly. Why can't the deleted file physically go to the Trash rather than remain an alias or whatever?
 
all of the macs or most are niche products.
they need a midrange tower thats upgradeable and they will really get alot of customers.

I hate it when people ask for midrange towers. It's not going to happen.

If Apple made such a machine they'd probably price it higher than the iMac line since it would be more upgradeable and therefore last longer. Also, while there's demand on these forums for it, I highly doubt the real world demand for such a machine is high. These two things would probably price it just under the base Mac Pro which would cannibalize on sales of the low end Mac Pro.

Why tool a factory for computer that's not going to sell? It's not going to happen.

The Macs that exist are not niche products because of their specs. Most people grow up on windows machines and they continue to buy what they know. This is why Apple started Boot Camp. As an example, there's a Mac Pro in most production houses in the world. It's not a niche product. Most design shops have a lot of iMacs. They're not niche products. A lot of producers and students have MacBook Pros and a lot of students have MacBooks. They're not niche products.

People who have midrange towers are usually hobbyists that prefer to assemble their own systems anyway. To beat a dead horse, it's not going to happen.
 
I hate it when people ask for midrange towers. It's not going to happen.

If Apple made such a machine they'd probably price it higher than the iMac line since it would be more upgradeable and therefore last longer. Also, while there's demand on these forums for it, I highly doubt the real world demand for such a machine is high. These two things would probably price it just under the base Mac Pro which would cannibalize on sales of the low end Mac Pro.

Why tool a factory for computer that's not going to sell? It's not going to happen.

The Macs that exist are not niche products because of their specs. Most people grow up on windows machines and they continue to buy what they know. This is why Apple started Boot Camp. As an example, there's a Mac Pro in most production houses in the world. It's not a niche product. Most design shops have a lot of iMacs. They're not niche products. A lot of producers and students have MacBook Pros and a lot of students have MacBooks. They're not niche products.

People who have midrange towers are usually hobbyists that prefer to assemble their own systems anyway. To beat a dead horse, it's not going to happen.

I agree. Midrange towers are not needed.
 
Now that I think about it I don't care for the mac mouse or the length of the cords for the mouse and keyboard. i know they make extensions for them but that costs. So I use a standard non apple mouse...:(
I couldn't agree more - the cords for Apple's keyboards and mice are too short. Also, the Mighty Mouse is terrible, so I use a non-Apple mouse as well.
 
I cannot get on with iTunes! It's so limited. No FLAC support is the big killer for me, so I've been using Play on OS X, but even that is not my favourite. Currently using Windows XP just for foobar, which is the best MP3 player I've ever used. I wish it was being ported to OS X.

Other than that, I have few complaints.
 
The only thing i hate about macs are the people that use them and think there a fan boy then go and diss them.... Like you.
 
I couldn't agree more - the cords for Apple's keyboards and mice are too short. Also, the Mighty Mouse is terrible, so I use a non-Apple mouse as well.

My mighty mouse is just fine. I don't know about cord length though because I'm using bluetooth devices. I'm interested to know what about it makes you think that it's terrible.
 
I agree. Midrange towers are not needed.

I disagree - the mid range tower is needed - its not just the upgradeability - its silly the way the iMacs are all in one - and then mobile components have to be used. They are popular because most people buying computers don't know much about computers - apart from creative folk - most pros buy generic boxes and run windows, and xp at that - although the adventurous few now can run OSX via Hackintosh. I think the people at Apple probably don't want to compete with the mainstream, to differentiate themselves, which is hard.

Millions would love a Mid-range tower that ran OSX.
 
My mighty mouse is just fine. I don't know about cord length though because I'm using bluetooth devices. I'm interested to know what about it makes you think that it's terrible.
My hands are too big to use the Mighty Mouse properly. I always find myself pushing the side buttons accidentally, and feeling uncomfortable after using the MM for a while - my hands get achy due to the unnatural position I have to put them in just to use the thing. The roller ball has a tendency to get stuck, and refuse to scroll down. My biggest irk with the Mighty Mouse is the spotty right-click detection - this may be because of the awkward way I have to use it, but I find myself hitting the wrong part of the mouse for the click I want (left- or right-) far too often.
 
Things I hate about MAC. I hate that im not rich so i can buy more of them. (that actually something i hate about myself) Nevermind I guess i dont hate things about the mac's.
 
My hands are too big to use the Mighty Mouse properly. I always find myself pushing the side buttons accidentally, and feeling uncomfortable after using the MM for a while - my hands get achy due to the unnatural position I have to put them in just to use the thing. The roller ball has a tendency to get stuck, and refuse to scroll down. My biggest irk with the Mighty Mouse is the spotty right-click detection - this may be because of the awkward way I have to use it, but I find myself hitting the wrong part of the mouse for the click I want (left- or right-) far too often.

Right on. I have pretty big hands (I can easily palm a basketball and play the first six frets on a guitar if needed) or at least long fingers :D but I get what you're saying. I use the mouse by keeping it at my fingertips with the bottom of my hand touching the table. Most people probably wouldn't find that comfortable. The mouse I had at my old job was bulky and too tall. My whole hand fit on it and I didn't really like it.

The right mouse click thing was a pain for me at first, but now I'm used to taking my finger (almost my whole hand actually) off of the mouse to do the click. The scroll ball clogging sucks, but Apple states somewhere to flip it upside down and roll the ball, which works.

I understand your complaints though. I find it comfortable, but my hands are not yours (I only mis-squeeze the side buttons when lifting the mouse while dragging in a hurry). Thanks for the reply.
 
I disagree - the mid range tower is needed - its not just the upgradeability - its silly the way the iMacs are all in one - and then mobile components have to be used. They are popular because most people buying computers don't know much about computers - apart from creative folk - most pros buy generic boxes and run windows, and xp at that - although the adventurous few now can run OSX via Hackintosh. I think the people at Apple probably don't want to compete with the mainstream, to differentiate themselves, which is hard.

Millions would love a Mid-range tower that ran OSX.

I would actually prefer Apple to seriously sup up the Mac Mini. It should have specs matching the iMac or at least better then it would be more in line for gamers (which is really not a huge market accept for kids) so they can be satisfied.
I disagree that pros use Windows boxes. Check around, most pros in the field are videographers, musicians and design artists and they generally use Macintosh, not Windows. Windows is more of the business computer, it's not the choice of professional artist in the field of such.

Also I don't know why some make a deal that the iMac has notebook components? The HDD is desktop class so what else inside of the iMac is necessary to have desktop components as they are quite fast right now? In fact the iMacs are quite faster than most desktop tower PC's and they are MUCH less than the price of a MBP and more powerful.
 
- most pros buy generic boxes and run windows, and xp at that - although the adventurous few now can run OSX via Hackintosh.

Millions would love a Mid-range tower that ran OSX.

I don't know believe that anyone who makes a living from their computer would ever run a hackintosh. It is too unstable, despite what many people say, many pros are reluctant to upgrade their machines to the 10.5.4, because the software they need to make money hasn't been tested with it. There is no way they would run something that isn't even supported.

Remember, the dozens/hundreds of people on these forums does not equate to millions in the real world. People want either a laptop or something that takes up as little space as possible. 95% of people don't ever upgrade their computer.
 
I disagree - the mid range tower is needed - its not just the upgradeability - its silly the way the iMacs are all in one - and then mobile components have to be used. They are popular because most people buying computers don't know much about computers - apart from creative folk - most pros buy generic boxes and run windows, and xp at that - although the adventurous few now can run OSX via Hackintosh. I think the people at Apple probably don't want to compete with the mainstream, to differentiate themselves, which is hard.

Millions would love a Mid-range tower that ran OSX.

I don't know about you, but my iMac runs much faster and has far more uptime that my computer at my last job did. It was a tower, and upgraded to specs higher than my iMac.

Also, please don't insult me about my choice of computer. I know plenty about computers, thank you. The newest iMacs are pretty fast despite their "mobile" components. All in one is nice because it packs a lot of power and saves space. They're not so expensive that I can't upgrade in a few years to the Mac Pro I've always wanted—most consumers buy new computers instead of upgrading their old ones.

As I said before, the demand is certainly not as high as you think. The same people would still be buying Apple computers. Just because a mid range tower exists doesn't mean people will become educated consumers and chose the computer that suits them best (which is probably a mac but might not be). They would probably still buy boring gray boxes because that is what they know. And since they would probably be priced higher than the iMac it would just cannibalize sales of the low end Mac Pro.
 
Remember, the dozens/hundreds of people on these forums does not equate to millions in the real world. People want either a laptop or something that takes up as little space as possible. 95% of people don't ever upgrade their computer.

Exactly. This is what I said before, and what I just reiterated in my last post.
 
I really wish the first click on an inactive application window was counted as an action rather than a focus grabber. So, when iTunes is open on one monitor and I'm in Photoshop on the other, I shouldn't have to click three times on a song to get it to play - once to make iTunes active and the others to select + play it. The way Windows/Linux (I believe) does it, the status of the window has no bearing on the effect that a click will have.
 
I really wish the first click on an inactive application window was counted as an action rather than a focus grabber. So, when iTunes is open on one monitor and I'm in Photoshop on the other, I shouldn't have to click three times on a song to get it to play - once to make iTunes active and the others to select + play it. The way Windows/Linux (I believe) does it, the status of the window has no bearing on the effect that a click will have.

Along those lines, I dont like when I open several apps, start using one while the others are loading, then they appear on top of the app I'm using, but inactive, so I have to switch to that app and then back to the one I was using before it takes the focus. Just a little irritating in the middle of reading an email when my rss reader pops up on top of mail.
 
Hmm, dunno about that one, haven't really noticed.

One thing that sometimes bothers me is when an app decides to bounce its dock icon for eternity. One bounce will suffice, maybe up to 5 or so if you really want my attention (only if it's important plz! Not just to tell me you just updated yourself). By all means if the computer is inactive, bounce away until I get back and start moving the mouse, but then cut it out. I'm too busy! :)

Windows does that too with the orange flashy taskbar buttons, although eventually it will stop flashing and just stay solid orange, which is a good idea. Shows that the app still wants attention, without being too distracting.
 
Windows does that too with the orange flashy taskbar buttons, although eventually it will stop flashing and just stay solid orange, which is a good idea. Shows that the app still wants attention, without being too distracting.

Yeah, but windows apps have more of a tendency to take the focus away from other apps when they want attention, sometimes multiple times in a matter of a minute or so.
 
Very true, which is highly annoying when you're trying to find something in the Start menu and apps keep cancelling the menu to grab your attention (or even to do stuff in the background!)
 
Yeah, but windows apps have more of a tendency to take the focus away from other apps when they want attention, sometimes multiple times in a matter of a minute or so.

A quick edit or ForegroundLockTimeout fixes that for the most part, though. There's also ForeGroundFlashCount for the number of times programs will flash at you. ;)
 
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