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So what do you think about Macs/Apple OS?

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Anyway, what I had intended to say was that when you highlight multiple items in Finder, you can only click on the top item to mass move them. Clicking on any of the others deselects them all apart from the one you clicked on... which can be annoying. However, I guess it's one of those things you get used to when you do it often. (I've had a Mac for a year and I've never really needed to move files much until the other day)

I use icon view and as long as I keep the modifier key down I can use any of the files to move the lot.

Oh and I don't like that there is a lack of british English Localization. It's making me spell things the American way, which is not good in things like college essays, and so on... because it makes me look like I can't spell properly.

There is.

Open up textedit, type a word. Then go to Edit - Spelling - Show Spelling and Grammar. Then select British English.

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This should be the default when you set your location as England/Britain etc. however it is not. I have sent feedback to apple about this issue.
 
Lack of MSN messaging

This is not really a problem with mac itself but i think its a annoyance!



Lack of a decent msn messenger from Microsoft for mac. I feel it's lacking features.

We can blame Bindows for that really....



:apple: a day keeps the Bindows away
 
Mac users that roll osx for virus protection, and then bring viruses onto windows networks; "Lewl you should have rolled osx" -mac user
 
Anyway, what I had intended to say was that when you highlight multiple items in Finder, you can only click on the top item to mass move them. Clicking on any of the others deselects them all apart from the one you clicked on... which can be annoying. However, I guess it's one of those things you get used to when you do it often. (I've had a Mac for a year and I've never really needed to move files much until the other day)

No this works fine- you have to let go of the apple key (or shift key, whichever one you're using) before you go to move them, and you'll be able to drag the selection from any of the selected files.
 
No this works fine- you have to let go of the apple key (or shift key, whichever one you're using) before you go to move them, and you'll be able to drag the selection from any of the selected files.

I concur, I thought this was the normal behavior. I've never run into his problem, but that's because I always let go of the modifier key. If you want to move while still holding shift, select the top item, shift select the bottom item and drag.
 
I hate that you cant open files for example .exe and I also hate that you cant play online games only some.
 
Are you kidding me? .exe files are WINDOWS EXECUTABLE FILES. Did you expect that a Mac would be able to open Windows programs without running Windows?
 
I guess my complaints are fairly common amongst switchers:

1) Finder could be better, could do cut 'n paste and work a bit more like Windows Explorer or your favorite Linux distro (imho);

2) Resize windows not only by the bottom right corner;

3) Do more games. Maybe Apple could pay Valve that money so we could *finally* have a Mac Steam. Seriously, a Mac Steam would allow me to uninstall Windows forever.
 
3) Do more games. Maybe Apple could pay Valve that money so we could *finally* have a Mac Steam. Seriously, a Mac Steam would allow me to uninstall Windows forever.

That's only half the battle. The vast majority of games these days make use of DX9/10 and that's a big problem for OSX. And, OpenGL games, which OSX does support, run quite a bit better under Windows. I would love to see OSX become a viable gaming platform but just getting Steam onto the platform is sort of like putting the cart before the horse.
 
I guess my complaints are fairly common amongst switchers:

1) Finder could be better, could do cut 'n paste and work a bit more like Windows Explorer or your favorite Linux distro (imho);

2) Resize windows not only by the bottom right corner;

3) Do more games. Maybe Apple could pay Valve that money so we could *finally* have a Mac Steam. Seriously, a Mac Steam would allow me to uninstall Windows forever.

Agree with all these. 3) is pretty much the only reason I have an XP partition on my Mac, but so long as DirectX is king, I don't see this happening. Can anyone tell me why OpenGL games run so poorly on OS X compared to Windows? I would install a game on Windows LONG before using the Mac version if there was one (BF2142, Enemy Territory, etc).
 
"It would not be consistent to just make some of the window bigger."

That's exactly what it does. If it shows coverflow and 5 items in the list, resize the window and you still only have 5 items in the list but really huge coverflow. So by your own admission, that's not consistent.

Can't you just put in list view?
 
I've Used Macs For 20 Years

In my work (graphic artist) and in my personal life. I LOVE MAC!
If there's a thing to hate...it has to be...NOTHING!!!
 
I hate, that it doesn't educate the user automatically on every computer or language related topic. - Okay, maybe it does try the language thing the orthographic way.

WTF?

I hate that a lot of the users are like you! Macs aren't about elitism.
 
Actually it's not a mac thing, but the only thing I hate are the DVD regions. I absolutly hate them, cause I used to live in Asia and I bought alot of DVDs over there and now I can't watch any DVDs I bought in Switzerland. That stupid thing drives me crazy and it's all because of that idiot law.
 
Needs more options, use "advanced" tab

here is a list of annoying things i found when switching from xp, only thing i found easier was networking...

OSX:
-can't read ntfs partitions used in bootcamp which was provided by apple (solved with ntfs-3g)

-can't maximize windows (used "witch")
does not make sense to make window size to page content, because content can change or i might zoom in!!

-safari only zooms text (used firefox)

-loud noise at startup, plug in earphones doesn't work (use "prefplane")

-mighty mouse not sensitive enough (used "mouse zoom")

-stupid shortcuts in finder and everything else ie
-enter key renames a file instead of opening it!
-cmd + [ for back, cmd + o for open < wth thought of this???!!
-option for cut and paste

-hard to navigate through multiple windows of same app, ie firefox/msn messenger (should include the option to group/ungroup in dock like xp!)
-expose/alt tab moves windows around
ie expose > select a window >expose :windows were moved

-no "close-lid" option

bottom line, it did not "just work" as advertised, for me anyway
 
-1920x1200 too small, lowering res makes everything blurry (scaling problem)

Problem with all LCD monitors, not just in Macs.

-stupid shortcuts in finder and everything else ie
-enter key renames a file instead of opening it!
-cmd + [ for back, cmd + o for open < wth thought of this???!!
-option for cut and paste

Seems logical. O for open, just like Q is for Quit, [ and ] for back and forward. Cmd is obvious. Whats wrong with these hotkeys?

-expose/alt tab moves windows around
ie expose > select a window >expose :windows were moved

Neither Expose nor Cmd-tab moves windows, they just bring the ones you select to the front.
 
This should be the default when you set your location as England/Britain etc. however it is not. I have sent feedback to apple about this issue.
Maybe it is the first time, but after that they're independent?
 
Problem with all LCD monitors, not just in Macs.



Seems logical. O for open, just like Q is for Quit, [ and ] for back and forward. Cmd is obvious. Whats wrong with these hotkeys?



Neither Expose nor Cmd-tab moves windows, they just bring the ones you select to the front.

-i understand the monitor part,
-as for shortcuts, well they are hard to reach, used to be backspace and enter in xp. they are logical in that it's easy to remeber, but they are hard to press, i have no problem with memory
 
-can't maximize windows (used "witch")
does not make sense to make window size to page content, because content can change or i might zoom in!!
Zoom is more intelligent that maximize. If you increase the size of a doc and rezoom, the window resizes accurately. Have you ever read a book or magazine that spans across both visible pages with each line of text? No because that is not readable. In fact often a page is broken down into columns to make it more readable. In fact 10-15 words per line is often recommended. When you Maximize a browser window, you are waaaay over that, but Safari for ex. handles this much more intelligently with zoom. I could go on but I think I made the point.

-safari only zooms text (used firefox)
for a good reason (see above)

-loud noise at startup, plug in earphones doesn't work (use "prefplane")
this is a hardware problem, and one I cannot reproduce.

-stupid shortcuts in finder and everything else ie
-enter key renames a file instead of opening it!
-cmd + [ for back, cmd + o for open < wth thought of this???!!
-option for cut and paste
Huh? Aside from the point eXan made (most logical hotkeys used), command-x or -c or -v keys are closer together than ctrl-c, etc. Its different for you and more efficient. For a Mac user, Windows would be different but less efficient.

-hard to navigate through multiple windows of same app, ie firefox/msn messenger (should include the option to group/ungroup in dock like xp!)
-expose/alt tab moves windows around
ie expose > select a window >expose :windows were moved
Why should it be "like windows"? Exposé application window is much better IMO.

-no "close-lid" option
:confused: I often use my MBP with the lid closed connected to an external monitor.
 
-i understand the monitor part,
-as for shortcuts, well they are hard to reach, used to be backspace and enter in xp. they are logical in that it's easy to remeber, but they are hard to press, i have no problem with memory

I guess its a personal thing, but I can't see how it is hard to press Cmd-O.. these buttons are just 2 buttons apart from each other! Its not like you have to press Fn-F12...
 
I guess its a personal thing, but I can't see how it is hard to press Cmd-O.. these buttons are just 2 buttons apart from each other! Its not like you have to press Fn-F12...

That used to bug me too, but I then fell in love with being able to rename with a simple stroke of enter. I don't think there was a key command for it in xp, so it always required right clicking.

One can always change their shortcuts. Unlike windows, it's easy to change the shortcut keys by going to system prefs>keyboard & mouse>keyboard shortcuts. If it doesn't exist yet, you can even add it. And you can add them for programs that don't support changing shortcuts as well.

The only one I miss is delete (backspace) in the finder. I do wish it would go back and I wish shift+delete would go forward. But, I think I'll take my own advice and change it. Or I just might learn cmd+bracket. That's not hard either. It might be slightly less efficient, but it's not a big deal. And like I said, if I want to change it, it's easy.

And command+c is way better than ctrl+c! I used to have a windows computer at an old job that I reconfigured the keys to be the mac equivalents. No one else could use the computer, but I was way more productive!
 
That used to bug me too, but I then fell in love with being able to rename with a simple stroke of enter. I don't think there was a key command for it in xp, so it always required right clicking.

One can always change their shortcuts. Unlike windows, it's easy to change the shortcut keys by going to system prefs>keyboard & mouse>keyboard shortcuts. If it doesn't exist yet, you can even add it. And you can add them for programs that don't support changing shortcuts as well.

The only one I miss is delete (backspace) in the finder. I do wish it would go back and I wish shift+delete would go forward. But, I think I'll take my own advice and change it. Or I just might learn cmd+bracket. That's not hard either. It might be slightly less efficient, but it's not a big deal. And like I said, if I want to change it, it's easy.

And command+c is way better than ctrl+c! I used to have a windows computer at an old job that I reconfigured the keys to be the mac equivalents. No one else could use the computer, but I was way more productive!

rename for windows was f2

i guess i'm just more used to windows and it's single key shortcuts
how long have u swtiched? i swtiched 6 months and still can't stand it, o well

i'll try the prefs thing thx
 
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