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So what do you think about Macs/Apple OS?

  • They are superb and could not be better

    Votes: 305 22.9%
  • They're good but have a few niggles

    Votes: 879 65.9%
  • For everything I like there's something I don't like

    Votes: 106 8.0%
  • I prefer Microsoft PCs

    Votes: 43 3.2%

  • Total voters
    1,333
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What "just works" though? If i drop a leo cd in my dell it doesnt "just work." If i want to add a 3rd party pci card it wont "just work." If i want to use a 9800gtx it wont "just work."

Add that to the fact that you guys say macs "just work" then you make excuses for time when they dont work, thus admitting that they dont always "just work."

Fanboys are fun.
 
What "just works" though? If i drop a leo cd in my dell it doesnt "just work."

Of course not, it would be ridiculous to think it would. A Mac is a collection of software and hardware. Mac OS X only works on Apple hardware, per the licensing agreement.
 
That is the explanation. It just works. I'd give you a further explanation, but you obviously don't need it. You shouldn't be mad at people's answers to a question you don't need to ask. ;)

I have to agree with the OP a tad.

When someone asks ME why I'm now primarily a Mac user after being a PC user for 20 years, I have actual reasons I can go to. Such as I'll point out spotlight and how it makes my day easier (although Microsoft copied this feature for Windows Desktop Search), or little touches like when I'm listening to iTunes and a Skype call comes in, iTunes automatically pauses and resumes when I hang up the call. Or how quickly it sleeps when I close the lid. Or how insanely powerful Automator is.

There's a million little things like that which Windows doesn't do. Any real "switcher" who made a rational choice can come off with a few.

Someone who is making a superficial fashion statement can't. If they can't answer a rational question with anything beyond a catch phrase (or even expound upon the catch phrase) they aren't thinking.
 
I don't like software updates. Since 10.5 All software updates screw my system up.

So like a lot of other stuff I have I will only update it I am having issues and the update fixes these. To bad Apple doesn't release 10.5.6 and the install notes as "10.5.6 fixes problems with updating OS X to 10.5.6"
 
I hate the fact that, when I shut down my MBP, I have to wait until it has fully shut down before closing the lid.

Why the hell would I want the computer to go to sleep half way through shutting down?! Ridiculous.
 
Nothing I hate by any means. A few things I don't like too much:

The thin open button on the front of my 2007 MBP.
The 3 little 'jelly' buttons, in either aqua or graphite. They're too small and look a bit passe' now.
The Dock/Menu Bar disparity - I'd much prefer all windows/information/trash/menus/etc to be dealt with in one place, preferably a hideable menu bar.
 
Nothing I hate by any means. A few things I don't like too much:

The thin open button on the front of my 2007 MBP.
The 3 little 'jelly' buttons, in either aqua or graphite. They're too small and look a bit passe' now.
The Dock/Menu Bar disparity - I'd much prefer all windows/information/trash/menus/etc to be dealt with in one place, preferably a hideable menu bar.

I definitely wish the menu bar would hide away like the dock.
 
-Safari does not keep the current downloaded amount of a file i.e. when you shut down your Mac, the download has to start from 0.

-Cannot turn off or turn down the booting volume. (But I can with a lil' help from a preference pane that I forgot the name to!)
 
Well, things that i hate about my mac... They are always more affected from wear and tear than other brands. A few months and your white book looks really old...

So, all i want from apple is more durable cases, something very scratch resistant, even the screen. If i´m paying a premium, i wan´t my stuff to last.
 
Well, things that i hate about my mac... They are always more affected from wear and tear than other brands. A few months and your white book looks really old...

So, all i want from apple is more durable cases, something very scratch resistant, even the screen. If i´m paying a premium, i wan´t my stuff to last.
Maybe some sort of metal?????
 
What "just works" though? If i drop a leo cd in my dell it doesnt "just work." If i want to add a 3rd party pci card it wont "just work." If i want to use a 9800gtx it wont "just work."

Add that to the fact that you guys say macs "just work" then you make excuses for time when they dont work, thus admitting that they dont always "just work."

Fanboys are fun.

I'm not a fanboy. There are a bunch of things that piss me off about Apple and I've noted a few in this thread already. Of course with everything, things don't work. My Powerbook's screen is messed up at the bottom third because the transistors have gone bad. However, it's a computer, and things go bad with electronics. It's out of it's warranty, and expected to go awry. It travelled in a bag to college everyday. I packed the bag too full and it put too much pressure on the case. The video card and original white spot issue I had with this computer were problems, but they were resolved quickly. I had seen those issues on other computers many times before.

What did piss me off is that Apple completely software restored my computer—apparently as a matter of procedure which I was not aware of—and I didn't back it up because I was away from home and needed to get my computer fixed. They could have backed it up at the store for $50, but I was a poor college student at the time and didn't want to pay that when I could have bought a drive to back it up on for that price. They only told me that they might restore it. I used to repair computers and I knew it was a hardware problem so I didn't think they would. I lost a year's worth of photos with that—luckily most everything else was backed up including some of the harder to reshoot photos. I wish I paid the $50. But I also wish they could have repaired it with my instructions to NOT wipe the drive.

I have to agree with the OP a tad.

When someone asks ME why I'm now primarily a Mac user after being a PC user for 20 years, I have actual reasons I can go to. Such as I'll point out spotlight and how it makes my day easier (although Microsoft copied this feature for Windows Desktop Search), or little touches like when I'm listening to iTunes and a Skype call comes in, iTunes automatically pauses and resumes when I hang up the call. Or how quickly it sleeps when I close the lid. Or how insanely powerful Automator is.

There's a million little things like that which Windows doesn't do. Any real "switcher" who made a rational choice can come off with a few.

Someone who is making a superficial fashion statement can't. If they can't answer a rational question with anything beyond a catch phrase (or even expound upon the catch phrase) they aren't thinking.

OK, apparently you guys couldn't tell that I was joking. You want some? You got it. First a little background, I'm an animator, so a lot of my favorite things about Mac OS X and my Macs pertain to video and still image production.

I love Exposé. I can see everything in every open window, including running video. It also allows me to see what else is open in Photoshop when it's full screen without having to get out of full screen mode.

Speaking of Photoshop—and this is actually an Adobe thing probably following Apple's HIG—I, unlike many others apparently, like that it has no background window because it allows me to get at my desktop quickly if I need to. I use 'F' to fullscreen Photoshop when I need to work big.

I love Quicklook more than anything ever made. You have no idea how much that speeds up work when you need to find footage, or a specific image or .psd. I love that they've made the plugin architecture open, so that I can actually install things to look into .ai and .eps files and zip archives. At my old job we worked on PCs and it was horrible when I had to leave my Mac at home, and lose Quicklook. We just updated to Leopard in the past month at my newer job, and it has sped us up significantly. It works instantly, even with Photoshop documents! Using After Effects, I might not need to open Photoshop to work on an image, but I might need to import it. This saves me a ton of time. Well, maybe not a ton since I have an octo Mac Pro with 8GB of RAM, but a good amount.

I, too, love that my Powerbook can be closed and instantly hibernate. I used to love that my old PC laptops stayed on when closed, but I've never missed that feature. I love that my Powerbook is so light. I hate that the screen is busted, but I still use it because it's better than my wife's old dell and the keyboard is the most comfortable keyboard I've ever typed on. I'm afraid to upgrade because of that. The newer keyboards are ok, but they're not nearly as smooth as the old ones. The screen issue is annoying, but it stops if the computer is at rest for a while, and I'll probably get a new LCD panel at some point to fix it because I love it.

I love that the default web browser shipped with Mac OS X, Safari, is one of the most standards aware. I didn't like that they originally upgraded Safari 2 only with Tiger—it was Tiger wasn't it?

I love that Apache is pre-installed along with other web technologies. A mac is an awesome web dev environment, right out of the box.

I love that my Macs hardly crash, and when they do, it's not a huge deal to fix it. I rarely spend time rebooting and fixing things on my Mac. I've never had to reinstall my OS to fix something wrong with the computer. That's why it just works.

Was that enough for you guys?
 
Bad graphics

I hate the fact that I cant do my CAD (3D) work in OSX and have to switch to XP due to lame graphic performance with my 2,5 MBP, thats ridiculous!
Another funny thing is that my wireless Apple keyboard does easier connect to XP than to OSX:confused:
 
I have to agree with the OP a tad.

When someone asks ME why I'm now primarily a Mac user after being a PC user for 20 years, I have actual reasons I can go to. Such as I'll point out spotlight and how it makes my day easier (although Microsoft copied this feature for Windows Desktop Search), or little touches like when I'm listening to iTunes and a Skype call comes in, iTunes automatically pauses and resumes when I hang up the call. Or how quickly it sleeps when I close the lid. Or how insanely powerful Automator is.

There's a million little things like that which Windows doesn't do. Any real "switcher" who made a rational choice can come off with a few.

Someone who is making a superficial fashion statement can't. If they can't answer a rational question with anything beyond a catch phrase (or even expound upon the catch phrase) they aren't thinking.

THANK YOU!!!


I'm not a fanboy... Was that enough for you guys?

If you drop the nonsensical "it just works", then maybe... just maybe :D
 
I'm not a fanboy. There are a bunch of things that piss me off about Apple and I've noted a few in this thread already. Of course with everything, things don't work. My Powerbook's screen is messed up at the bottom third because the transistors have gone bad. However, it's a computer, and things go bad with electronics. It's out of it's warranty, and expected to go awry. It travelled in a bag to college everyday. I packed the bag too full and it put too much pressure on the case. The video card and original white spot issue I had with this computer were problems, but they were resolved quickly. I had seen those issues on other computers many times before.
You will have to forgive me, i was confused by you saying "they just work" then making excuses for why they dont "just work."
Was that enough for you guys?
Lol, yeah, that will do it. Thats what a rational, educated person likes about macs. Go on a college campus and ask why someone chose a mac over anything else and you wont get an answer half as intelligent as yours.

I hate that i cant put widgets on the desktop without 3rd party software (that isnt free, darn it).
 
I hate the fact that I cant do my CAD (3D) work in OSX and have to switch to XP due to lame graphic performance with my 2,5 MBP, thats ridiculous!

What programme are you using? I never really had a problem running Archicad on my MBP (lower MHz than yours) other than the fact that it's a shoddily presented piece of software.
 
That is the explanation. It just works. I'd give you a further explanation, but you obviously don't need it. You shouldn't be mad at people's answers to a question you don't need to ask. ;)
I've switched to mac 1 month ago and I really enjoy it. I still use Windows and Linux though. What I actually hate about mac is exactly what I quoted.

When I tell someone that I have a new mac, quite often pple have this reaction. Like you are a fashion victim and you paid a lot of money just for the Apple brand and so on.
 
Well, things that i hate about my mac... They are always more affected from wear and tear than other brands. A few months and your white book looks really old...

So, all i want from apple is more durable cases, something very scratch resistant, even the screen. If i´m paying a premium, i wan´t my stuff to last.

That's why I didn't start using my 2008 Macbook Pro until I got my invisible shield ;)
 
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