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I shouldn't bite again-but oh well.

First of all, I'm not a psychiatrist or pharmacist, but from what I know, most if not all of the "take as needed" anti-anxiety pills are some sort of benzodiazepine. Xanax, Ativan, Klonipin, and Valium(probably not as common now) are all common ones for this role, but that's by no means an exhaustive list. Taking one occasionally is not a problem, but @A.Goldberg can tell you that these almost always cause dependency when used long term(daily even for a couple of weeks) and getting off of them is not fun. They're also really bad about building tolerance, meaning you need to take more to get the same effect. Increasing the dose/number you have per month might be something your doctor will agree to do, but it's not really a good practice.

Also, I'll just say the obvious-if a relationship with a girl(or anyone) causes you to dramatically increase the amount of a likely habit-forming anti-anxiety drug, she's NOT good for you. In this case, you have a choice-cut her out of your life. Things probably aren't going to get better.
 
I shouldn't bite again-but oh well.

First of all, I'm not a psychiatrist or pharmacist, but from what I know, most if not all of the "take as needed" anti-anxiety pills are some sort of benzodiazepine. Xanax, Ativan, Klonipin, and Valium(probably not as common now) are all common ones for this role, but that's by no means an exhaustive list. Taking one occasionally is not a problem, but @A.Goldberg can tell you that these almost always cause dependency when used long term(daily even for a couple of weeks) and getting off of them is not fun. They're also really bad about building tolerance, meaning you need to take more to get the same effect. Increasing the dose/number you have per month might be something your doctor will agree to do, but it's not really a good practice.

Also, I'll just say the obvious-if a relationship with a girl(or anyone) causes you to dramatically increase the amount of a likely habit-forming anti-anxiety drug, she's NOT good for you. In this case, you have a choice-cut her out of your life. Things probably aren't going to get better.

i will keep this in mind. I’ll ask my doctor too.

the way I see it though, and maybe I’m just naive, is that I’ve finished my education, earn a decent income, have no debt, and knock on wood but overall pretty stable

So, therefore I feel like even if I was on a medication like that every other day or every couple of days it wouldn’t affect my life...

I’m not at risk of flunking out of school, losing my job, or something like that. I’m already “established” minus the wife and kids but that’s what I’m working on as you can see from this thread haha :)
 
I shouldn't bite again-but oh well.

First of all, I'm not a psychiatrist or pharmacist, but from what I know, most if not all of the "take as needed" anti-anxiety pills are some sort of benzodiazepine. Xanax, Ativan, Klonipin, and Valium(probably not as common now) are all common ones for this role, but that's by no means an exhaustive list. Taking one occasionally is not a problem, but @A.Goldberg can tell you that these almost always cause dependency when used long term(daily even for a couple of weeks) and getting off of them is not fun. They're also really bad about building tolerance, meaning you need to take more to get the same effect. Increasing the dose/number you have per month might be something your doctor will agree to do, but it's not really a good practice.

Also, I'll just say the obvious-if a relationship with a girl(or anyone) causes you to dramatically increase the amount of a likely habit-forming anti-anxiety drug, she's NOT good for you. In this case, you have a choice-cut her out of your life. Things probably aren't going to get better.

It’s normal to feel anxious when attempting to build relationships. For people with more severe forms of anxiety, the best treatment is therapy. Medication therapy should be carefully considered, with benzodiazepines as a very last resort.

Honestly, as a specialist in psychiatric medicines I see far more problems with benzos than benefit, though that’s not to say they aren’t effective and warranted in specific circumstances. But let’s just say there isn’t a single guideline in the world that recommends using benzos continuously for more than 2 weeks.

That said, there are other anti-anxiety medications with less problems than benzos and prescribers have slowly started to realize the the amount of overprescribing of benzos.
 
A lot has been going on. We got into an argument last week and ended the night on a sour note, so I just went out on my own to the bars and had fun anyway.

I ended up bumping into a girl I used to hangout as friends with a long time ago...

Despite getting into an argument me and the girl I've been dating are good now. Everything's about as good as it normally gets. Yes there's the minimal ghosting still going on, and little annoying things, but things are very much fine between us again and we plan on seeing each other again very soon. I even had flowers sent to her house and all that and things are fine now.

The only thing is, that girl I used to hangout as friends with who I bumped into at the bar...we're supposed to go out partying tomorrow night with her roommates at a club - VIP. I really want to go but bc this is such a small community the chances the girl I'm dating finds out is pretty high.

But the thing is, me and this girl are really just friends, so there would be nothing for the girl I'm dating to worry about. But at the same time, her finding out I'm at a club VIP with several good looking women is understandably fishy.

Not sure how to go about this...
 
Despite getting into an argument me and the girl I've been dating are good now. Everything's about as good as it normally gets. Yes there's the minimal ghosting still going on, and little annoying things, but things are very much fine between us again and we plan on seeing each other again very soon. I even had flowers sent to her house and all that and things are fine now.

Good to read, but what we all want to know is if things are good/fine now?
 
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While I doubt this girl is the one, I do hope eventually hieveryone finds a real path in life and a partner. I just think he needs to grow up a bit more first. But at least he's considering a real person right now, rather than a "hot model." Baby steps.
 
People I say need to grow up but I’m not the one ghosting her after hooking up, I’m not the one still texting my ex and who knows maybe even hooking up with him and then when I ask her about she then blocks him on all social media and says I need to trust so ok that was nice I guess, but I’m not the one ignoring her on Saturday night to make it seem like I’m up to no good

Frankly, forget whether or not SHE leaves. I feel like I’m gonna leave a lot sooner. I’m already looking for other girls.

The only thing I regret losing is that this girl doesn’t ask me for anything.

I haven’t been giving her that much gifts or helping that much with bills and she’s completely fine with what I do for her and actually very grateful. It’s nice to have something real but then it’s like she just wants to be a nightmare and make me feel bad, and what I get in return is getting to hook up once a week. That’s how I feel this relationship is. My mental health in exchange to hook up.
 
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People I say need to grow up but I’m not the one ghosting her after hooking up, I’m not the one still texting my ex and who knows maybe even hooking up with him and then when I ask her about she then blocks him on all social media and says I need to trust so ok that was nice I guess, but I’m not the one ignoring her on Saturday night to make it seem like I’m up to no good

Frankly, forget whether or not SHE leaves. I feel like I’m gonna leave a lot sooner. I’m already looking for other girls.

The only thing I regret is that this girl doesn’t ask me for anything.

I haven’t been paying her bills or giving her anything. It’s nice to have something real but then it’s like she just wants to be a nightmare and make me feel bad, and what I get in return is getting to hook up once a week. That’s how I feel this relationship is. My mental health in exchange to hook up.

Of course you need to grow up. The fact you are even dragging this teenager love / dismissal story into a Mac forum indicates that- but after denying climate change there were no questions left on your missing level of educational growth. Once you meet the right person you’ll know for sure. Until then we’ll probably see many more silly posts from you.
 
People I say need to grow up but I’m not the one ghosting her after hooking up, I’m not the one still texting my ex and who knows maybe even hooking up with him and then when I ask her about she then blocks him on all social media and says I need to trust so ok that was nice I guess, but I’m not the one ignoring her on Saturday night to make it seem like I’m up to no good

Frankly, forget whether or not SHE leaves. I feel like I’m gonna leave a lot sooner. I’m already looking for other girls.

The only thing I regret losing is that this girl doesn’t ask me for anything.

I haven’t been giving her much that much gifts or helping that much with bills. It’s nice to have something real but then it’s like she just wants to be a nightmare and make me feel bad, and what I get in return is getting to hook up once a week. That’s how I feel this relationship is. My mental health in exchange to hook up.

Maybe she’s just smarter than you. 🤷‍♂️
 
Maybe she’s just smarter than you. 🤷‍♂️

If she’s smarter than me she should be able to keep me happy enough to stay bc I’m pretty sure she’s pretty upset right now because:

I was planning hanging out with some other girls who are JUST friends, nothing more at all, and she found out bc apparently she knows them (unbeknownst to me) and they ended up cancelling bc she didn’t want them to.

Maybe if she would stop playing games This wouldn’t happen.
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It seems like her goal is to control me above all else.
 
If she’s smarter than me she should be able to keep me happy enough to stay bc I’m pretty sure she’s pretty upset right now because:

I was planning hanging out with some other girls who are JUST friends, nothing more at all, and she found out bc apparently she knows them (unbeknownst to me) and they ended up cancelling bc she didn’t want them to.

Maybe if she would stop playing games This wouldn’t happen.
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It seems like her goal is to control me above all else.

 
If she’s smarter than me she should be able to keep me happy enough to stay bc I’m pretty sure she’s pretty upset right now because:

I was planning hanging out with some other girls who are JUST friends, nothing more at all, and she found out bc apparently she knows them (unbeknownst to me) and they ended up cancelling bc she didn’t want them to.

Maybe if she would stop playing games This wouldn’t happen.
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It seems like her goal is to control me above all else.

Given your transactional view of relationships, - and the fact that - despite your strongly materialistic values - you seem to delight in the fact that she asks nothing of you (in a material sense), it strikes me that - quite literally - she owes you nothing.
 
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Many thanks for not using: quid pro quo. 🥴

But the point is, that these relationships are viewed in strictly transactional terms; a quid pro quo, they aren't, not when the perceived "value" of a defined something can change more dramatically than the stock market on the day of a complete collapse or crash.

But, yes, an exchange of sorts (her looks for his money used to be the traditional take on such things) seems to govern transactional relationships; what an awful way to live the personal sphere of your life.

However, to my mind, the sort of things that actually make - and sustain - a genuine relationship (and not just what may be termed a sexual or romantic relationship) are mutual affection (and yes, reciprocated love), kindness, and shared laughter, (which may indicate a shared view of the world) all of which are informed by a profound respect for - and liking for - the other person.

Above all, strictly transactional, this isn't.
 
Then just break up with her. She’s clearly not that into you.

Girls don’t text guys they like everyday and hook up with them once a week If they’re not that into them. We’ve only been seeing each other 5 weeks maybe?
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Given your transactional view of relationships, - and the fact that - despite your strongly materialistic values - you seem to delight in the fact that she asks nothing of you (in a material sense), it strikes me that - quite literally - she owes you nothing.

I just like that she likes me enough not to want anything from me given I’d be more than happy to provide for her. Now if she wasn’t hot who cares but given she’s really hot it’s super flattering.

I just don’t like how she plays mind games it makes things very difficult. I just wish everything was straight forward not confusing all the time. I never know what’s going on.
 
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Girls don’t text guys they like everyday and hook up with them once a week If they’re not that into them. We’ve only been seeing each other 5 weeks maybe?
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I just like that she likes me enough not to want anything from me given I’d be more than happy to provide for her. Now if she wasn’t hot who cares but given she’s really hot it’s super flattering.

I just don’t like how she plays mind games it makes things very difficult. I just wish everything was straight forward not confusing all the time. I never know what’s going on.

If she's purposely playing mind games with you, I still contend she's not that into you. She could just be in it for the sex. Women can play that game too.
 
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If she's purposely playing mind games with you, I still contend she's not that into you. She could just be in it for the sex. Women can play that game too.

If she’s using me for that, well then I couldn’t be more flattered haha!
 
Hi everyone. Things are going well despite the drama. It’s been many ups and downs but I do think we’re going to be together for awhile - at least I hope.

I guess the lesson to learn here is that it takes awhile to learn about someone. Everyone’s different.

She knows me better and I know her better and that once I accept there will be drama but that it will still be fun and rewarding I think then it makes things easier overall.
 
I have not been needing too much of my anti anxiety prescription. In fact, I only took it once in the recent week or two
:)
 
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