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Thinner 15-Inch MacBook Pro Coming with Retina Display and USB 3.0?

If Ethernet is so important why has Apple sold more iPads in 2 years than all the Macs they've created since 1984?

The truth is probably in the middle of the argument.


Some people need Ethernet and some don't. I see nothing wrong with making some choices optional.

ODD, Ethernet and FW and legacy ports. If you need them ...there's a peripheral to accommodate you.
 
Mr. Retrofire said:
Not at all! The scene is very active. The problem is, that Apple makes nearly no money with "Pro" hardware. iDevices are Apples moneymaker.

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Correct.
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Ok. Ok. So then the "Pro" term is relevant? Yes. YES IT IS! So all of you who were crying "it's not 'Pro' anymore because I need my ethernet port" are WRONG! And I was right all along.

See what I just did there?
 
Mr. Retrofire said:
If you make it thinner, the device has less space for batteries and dedicated graphics, not more space.


A good description of your own comments.
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Considering as tech evolves, you get more with less, you are wrong. Plus just because it shrunk in thickness, you make up that room in width due to the ODD being removed

The only moronic comments are you own.
 
7enderbender said:
Could you explain that to me again? Does this mean that even though we may be seeing more pixels in the 15" MBP but we won't gain more real estate in something like PhotoShop, Lightroom or Cubase?
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With a Retina display, the resolution is doubled, but the icons and text and everything on the screen are doubled as well, taking up much physical space (think inches, millimeters, centimeters) as it did before.
 
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Peace said:
I understand your argument. However as far as security goes there are security issues on the computer with or without ethernet. If ethernet stopped security issues there wouldn't be any viruses or malware in the corporate environment.

But where do most viruses come from ? Corporate computers.

I know you're referring to encryption btw.

All I'm saying is security runs the gamut.
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Viruses don't come from corporate computers but from petty criminals, stupid kids as well as organized crime. Has nothing to do with Mac vs PC nor corporate vs. little artist studio. Of course big networks and corporations are an easier and usually more valuable target.
 
I wish they would not make the MBP thinner but rather reduce the footprint by reducing the Bezel. Leave the MBP as thick as it is now and use the additional space for a larger battery.

Of course that will never happen because the MBP would look like a brick and Apple puts design first............
 
Peace said:
I understand your argument. However as far as security goes there are security issues on the computer with or without ethernet. If ethernet stopped security issues there wouldn't be any viruses or malware in the corporate environment.

But where do most viruses come from ? Corporate computers.

I know you're referring to encryption btw.

All I'm saying is security runs the gamut.
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No, as I said, FACT wireless is NOT secure, ethernet IS. Many offices will give their employee's wireless for smart phones or whatever, but for computers it will be ethernet ONLY. Plus it's faster for VPN or network profiles. You can argue as much as you want, doesn't change the facts over which is more secure and which method is more forced upon for work machine use.

And if corporate computers get viruses then they are not locked down enough or lack proper security or the users are not using them as per guidelines. I have even read story's of people sitting outside offices that use WiFi to steal their internet because it's so easy.

nuckinfutz said:
If Ethernet is so important why has Apple sold more iPads in 2 years than all the Macs they've created since 1984?

The truth is probably in the middle of the argument.


Some people need Ethernet and some don't. I see nothing wrong with making some choices optional.

ODD, Ethernet and FW and legacy ports. If you need them ...there's a peripheral to accommodate you.
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Your comparing a tablet to a computer? You may as well state what's the point in ANY computer.
 
appleguy123 said:
If there is a retina display on the 15 inch, I'll sell my top of the line 13" MacBook air and get it immediately. I'll toss out my old 17" MacBook pro too to get a higher end version. This would be the best update ever.
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This.
 
KPOM said:
That's why there is still an external option. The time to drop internal support for something is just before it becomes obsolete, not after. Otherwise, technology won't move forward, because as long as it is included people won't want to migrate off.



It's more like, just because you use old technology doesn't mean I should have to buy it to get what I do want (e.g. Retina Display, Ivy Bridge, USB 3.0).
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Then buy a damn Air.
 
marcusj0015 said:
With a Retina display, the resolution is doubled, but the icons and text and everything on the screen are doubled as well, taking up much physical space (think inches, millimeters, centimeters) as it did before.
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And there is no way to turn that off, right? So what's the point then? Not interested if that's the case. I recently used a 27" iMac. I find that a weird experience sitting in front of such a large screen and then all the icons, letters and everything else looks as if it was in visually impaired mode.

To clarify: my main computer right now is a ThinkPad 14" with 1400x1050 resolution. That is about the same pixel density (about 125 ppi) as the current hi res 15" MacBook. I'm looking for something a little bigger (15" would be ok) with even higher pixel density to gain screen real estate. Especially for photo editing tools and recording software this would be very beneficial.

And I want the same in a desktop, for example a 21 or maybe 24 inch iMac with similar 125-150 ppi resolution.
 
Retina displays make everything look better.

subtle gradients
drop shadows
text
curved lines.

If someone needs more size they simply need to buy a large screen.
 
monkeybagel said:
Not sure what is wrong with technology that still has a use. All of these dongles and external devices certainly defeat the purpose of having a thinner notebook. Until iTunes sells lossless music in the iTunes store, I will certainly have a use for an ODD. In this case, old technology is clearly better.
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I travel a lot for work (I'm a consultant), and my biggest complaint about my Windows PC isn't that it is Windows, or even that it is still running Vista (seriously), but that it is so big. I'd gladly trade the optical drive etc. for a thinner, lighter PC that I can just pop into a sleeve and store in an overnight bag. Even if I need an adapter or two, it is still more convenient and takes up less room.

I bought the ODD when I purchased my first MacBook Air in February 2008, and while I used to use it more, I haven't used it much in the last 2 years. Mostly I have used it to reinstall Windows and Windows applications when I buy a new notebook (the release of Winclone patched for Lion was a big help here). I have ripped some DVDs, but that's a one-time thing.
 
apolloa said:
No, as I said, FACT wireless is NOT secure, ethernet IS. Many offices will give their employee's wireless for smart phones or whatever, but for computers it will be ethernet ONLY. Plus it's faster for VPN or network profiles. You can argue as much as you want, doesn't change the facts over which is more secure and which method is more forced upon for work machine use.

And if corporate computers get viruses then they are not locked down enough or lack proper security or the users are not using them as per guidelines. I have even read story's of people sitting outside offices that use WiFi to steal their internet because it's so easy.



Your comparing a tablet to a computer? You may as well state what's the point in ANY computer.
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Then use a dongle and be done with it..It's not worth the argument. Spend the $19.95.
 
PracticalMac said:
Obviously you do not understand comm protocols. If you did you would know.


As for bridge-mode, come here and convince my less then savvy boss that.
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There are interfaces with speeds where comm protocols are so minimal that don't affect performance. I think you are confused, or thinking too deep into a simple concept.
 
KPOM said:
I bought the ODD when I purchased my first MacBook Air in February 2008, and while I used to use it more, I haven't used it much in the last 2 years. Mostly I have used it to reinstall Windows and Windows applications when I buy a new notebook (the release of Winclone patched for Lion was a big help here). I have ripped some DVDs, but that's a one-time thing.
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A pretty common story now. Many of us thought we'd continue to burn discs but then USB flash drives hit and then got big and cheap. The internet became even more of a tool for sharing and storing content.

I'm not debating the right for ODD to exist but the removal of moving devices like ODD and HDD only increase the reliability of mobile computers.
 
PracticalMac said:
Obviously you do not understand comm protocols. If you did you would know.


As for bridge-mode, come here and convince my less then savvy boss that.
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Your boss's head is probably filled with crap from your IT Department. They often do that do make believe they are useful, as a mean of job security.
Just review what they do over a year period, an you'll see that most of what they do (besides required maintenance) is redundant and unnecessary stuff.
 
Peace said:
Then use a dongle and be done with it..It's not worth the argument. Spend the $19.95.
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The whole argument coming from the ODD and port fans is founded in "inconvenience"

They simply cannot be bothered to adding a dongle to a cable or carrying another device around.

First World problems to be sure. :p
 
No optical? No problem here, I pulled it out of my MBP 17 after it stopped working and replaced it with a second 500GB drive, and it's been a great setup for video editing. I just hope the new MBP has an option for this or better yet a combo SSD and HD.
 
It's also kind of weird that apple's miniaturization fetish never caught on with Ethernet. Is there a technical reason the plug is still as massive as ever?
 
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