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Thinner 15-Inch MacBook Pro Coming with Retina Display and USB 3.0?
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Everything you wanted to know about speeds but were afraid to ask :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_device_bit_rates
Some IT guys might want to check it out too.
Why? What speed will it offer, what problems will it cause with work related software due to drivers?
As stated earlier in this thread, USB 2 is 480MBPS max, hardly 1000MBPS ethernet speed.
And your having a laugh (OR SERIOUSLY UNDER THE REALITY FIELD) if you think saying a simple, go and buy a $30 adapter comment, is acceptable on a $2000 machine!
I also did a quick google and could not find any USB3 to gigabit ethernet adapters which would lead me to think they are expensive if they are made.
But I guess your a typical Apple fan, ignore common sense and practicality for desirability and sex appeal in design.
But as this is a rumour I call the ditching of the ethernet port BS, unless Apple can come up with an adapter capable of running a 1000mbps and include it with every laptop.
Uh, someone born when I started college will be starting college this fall.
Anyway, the longer I've been working in the "real world," the less I care about fancy PowerPoint presentations. That said, it isn't too difficult to carry an adapter. Even if I leave the adapter in my bag all the time, it still takes up a lot less room and is more convenient than lugging around a huge "pro" machine with everything built in. I work in professional services. The main things I need a notebook for are e-mail, accessing our internal research portal, drafting documents and presentations, and occasionally reviewing Excel files. A lot of the partners carry only their iPads on short trips (leaving their notebooks at the office). Ultrabooks or MacBook Airs would be perfect if my firm supported them. The 15" Pro mockup would have the advantage of a larger screen (though if given a choice, I'd probably go with the 13" since it is easier to use on a plane).
As for the office, changes are pretty good that people who spend lots of time there have docking stations. I don't, but I have two power adapters for my notebook (one that I leave at the office, and a smaller one that stays in my bag). All our conference rooms have Wi-Fi. While we still have Ethernet at my desk, it isn't too difficult to leave an adapter there. We aren't the most advanced office by any stretch (e.g. Vista).
I'm not suggesting there is no value in having all the ports built in. I'm saying it isn't the end of the world if they aren't there. Apple is about to release a powerful new notebook with a Retina Display, and all we are hearing about are complaints that it doesn't have a VGA port (what's the last Mac that had one, anyway?) or Ethernet.
I don't see why many are so upset over the lack of builtin Ethernet port.. I've used an Air for a couple of years and see no trouble using a dongle. The dongle isn't large or clunky, easily fit in any bag. It works as soon as you connect it, you don't need to enable it or anything.
Most of the time I don't even need one, but for the times I do I have it in my bag. It fits right on the end of the Ethernet cable and plugs right in.
In fact you can just leave the dongle on the end of the cable, then plug it when you need. I really see no difference apart from losing a USB slot.
Most of the time I don't even need one, but for the times I do I have it in my bag. It fits right on the end of the Ethernet cable and plugs right in.
In fact you can just leave the dongle on the end of the cable, then plug it when you need. I really see no difference apart from losing a USB slot.
Looking forward to see/feel how much weight they're able to cut off.
My current 15" Unibody feels heavy.
My current 15" Unibody feels heavy.
I don't know if it's turnoff able, I don't work at Apple, I came here to explain what Retina was, not to argue it's basis or functionality.
If your company's infrastructure gets 1000MBPS average throughput on it's intranet you work for a very lucky company.
The whole argument coming from the ODD and port fans is founded in "inconvenience"
They simply cannot be bothered to adding a dongle to a cable or carrying another device around.
First World problems to be sure.
The problem is not adding the dongle, the problem is carrying four dongles around with you all the time and then you realize you don't have them with you when you need them most. And yes it's a first world problem but unfortunately may paycheck also depends on that........
haha, best comment, but all it rally means is less apple sales. It's business and as such, if a product is not fit for purpose, then it will simply move onto one that is. HP and Dell are GIANTS in the corporate world.
The Air won't have a 15" Retina Display, nor will it support quad-core. The 15" Pro mock-up seems like a good balance between power and portability for those needing more than an Air.
Engineer: "You know, the ethernet port is a major blocker to making this thing thinner."
Product Manager: "OK, remove it. Our data shows that less than 15% of users ever plug in an ethernet cable."
Forums: "OMG WTFBBQ?!?!?!?!1111SHIFT+1 THEY WILL REGRET THIS. THERE GOES THE PRO MARKET. APPLE FAIL"
WWDC: "Today Apple unveiled the latest in the MacBook Pro line to great fanfare. It has 100 new useful features that make it the best notebook of all time. One journalist was quoted as saying, 'the death of the ethernet port will be the end of Apple', believes that Apple made a big mistake..."
Child Born After 1995: "What is an 'ethernet' port?"
John Gruber: "Who gives a ****?"
Windows Laptop Manufacturer That Won't Be In Business In 3 Years: "We don't have to sacrifice the ethernet port. We're about more than just thinness and lightness. Look at that sexy port in the side of our plastic rattle trap. Pro."
Apple Retail: CHA-CHING!, CHA-CHING!, CHA-CHING!
Quarterly Earnings Call: "Record. Profits. Again."
Product Manager: "OK, remove it. Our data shows that less than 15% of users ever plug in an ethernet cable."
Forums: "OMG WTFBBQ?!?!?!?!1111SHIFT+1 THEY WILL REGRET THIS. THERE GOES THE PRO MARKET. APPLE FAIL"
WWDC: "Today Apple unveiled the latest in the MacBook Pro line to great fanfare. It has 100 new useful features that make it the best notebook of all time. One journalist was quoted as saying, 'the death of the ethernet port will be the end of Apple', believes that Apple made a big mistake..."
Child Born After 1995: "What is an 'ethernet' port?"
John Gruber: "Who gives a ****?"
Windows Laptop Manufacturer That Won't Be In Business In 3 Years: "We don't have to sacrifice the ethernet port. We're about more than just thinness and lightness. Look at that sexy port in the side of our plastic rattle trap. Pro."
Apple Retail: CHA-CHING!, CHA-CHING!, CHA-CHING!
Quarterly Earnings Call: "Record. Profits. Again."
My god!
I can't believe how much people are upset about the ethernet port.
If you're investing hundreds of dollars into a brand new computer, an additional 20 dollars isn't much for the ethernet adapter. Most users probably don't even use it that much.
But I can understand the counter arguments. The MacBook Pro is/was a computer used by professionals. Lately it has been reduced to a consumer product.
I can't believe how much people are upset about the ethernet port.
If you're investing hundreds of dollars into a brand new computer, an additional 20 dollars isn't much for the ethernet adapter. Most users probably don't even use it that much.
But I can understand the counter arguments. The MacBook Pro is/was a computer used by professionals. Lately it has been reduced to a consumer product.
and this justifies the removal of the ethernet port in favor of the usb dongle how?
Most people won't care and will just get the adapter if they really need access to Ethernet. It's a business decision. If Apple thought that it was necessary to include built-in Ethernet, they'd leave it in. The Air has become their top selling notebook, so apparently most Mac buyers are OK with not having it. People who buy the Pro are likely buying it for other reasons (larger screen, more powerful CPU/GPU) rather than the Ethernet port.
Switch the argument around.
I DEMAND APPLE DROP ETHERNET PORTS FROM ALL DESKTOP MACS NOW AND IN THE FUTURE BECAUSE THEY CAN ALL HAVE WIRELESS BUILT IN AND NOBODY USES ETHERNET!
That is EXACTLY what some of you sound like, it's the EXACT same argument but I bet you would soon be shouting if Apple did it!
How many of you use the ethernet port on an iMac? It's pointless, get rid of it.
I DEMAND APPLE DROP ETHERNET PORTS FROM ALL DESKTOP MACS NOW AND IN THE FUTURE BECAUSE THEY CAN ALL HAVE WIRELESS BUILT IN AND NOBODY USES ETHERNET!
That is EXACTLY what some of you sound like, it's the EXACT same argument but I bet you would soon be shouting if Apple did it!
How many of you use the ethernet port on an iMac? It's pointless, get rid of it.
Dell....LOL.
Market Cap as of Today
Dell = 27 billion
HP = 45 billion
Apple = 524 billion
The relative speed you get through a dongle will not be slower than the ethernet port due to bandwidth constraints in the typical intranet.
Desktop PCs are a bit different since portability isn't as big an issue. That said, Apple has been known to drop built-in legacy devices (floppies from the original iMac, optical drives from the latest Mini). Heck, why are there no complaints that desktop Macs no longer have ADB or SCSI ports?
yeah, hmmm, what does business use more of? Oh yeah it's those crappy Dell's and HP's. Can't even buy an Apple rack mount server these day's....
All your points taken. And I'm not looking to buy a new laptop for strict business use. For that the choices would be pretty clear - and yes would include a VGA port. Even my wife's little Acer netbook has one and she uses it for presentations (if required - she hates PPT as much as you do and we all know it's a joke to begin with...)
I was getting excited over a potential new MBP as a tool for mostly photo editing and some audio recording if it can handle it and replace my current designated music desktop PC. I really want to like Apple laptops. They look like the most sturdy solution out there currently and I'm willing to adapt to some of the unusual (for me as a ThinkPad user) approaches. There must be a reason why so many arts and design folks are using them, right?
But it looks like here I am yet again being turned down for lack of a few basics. And the new high res "retina" display appears to be all smokes and mirrors as well if it doesn't buy me more screen real estate and instead just doubles everything in size. I don't even want to know that that does to photo rendering and color accuracy. So guess I'll be back to the quest to find an appropriate replacement for my 6 year old IBM ThinkPad. Desktop shouldn't be a problem there are plenty of very powerful and reasonably priced options out there. But finding a professional laptop that serves multiple needs has become quite a problem.
Congrats - you managed to focus in on one sentence of my post, conveniently missing the paragraph underneath it where I make my actual point.
Is reading comprehension not your thing, or do you only reply to things that fit your agenda? Really. Let me know. I'm interested.
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I must have missed this part in the original post.
Oh wait. Nope, I didn't.
I agree with the first part, but get your head out of your ass. We use word too.
Touché...
I do take ownership in my computer-elitist tendencies, and I frankly said so. And I never said I was right.
And even the development world has less and less use for a full fledged desktop PC or Mac Pro. I'm pretty sure I could work on my Android and iOS projects (yeah, I swing both ways...) project on an air... I would probably only see the difference in disk space and when running a few VMs.
There no money in it. For every server Dell sells Apple probably sells 10 iPads and then makes 30% on the backend for apps. Hence they now could buy both HP and Dell outright.