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Thinner 15-Inch MacBook Pro Coming with Retina Display and USB 3.0?

I would like a 11 macbook air with thunderbolt and USB 3. That would be ideal. Plus higher resolution display!!
 
blow45 said:
Exactly, you won't be seeing any more real estate in the mbp, you will actually lose much screen real estate to go with hidpi mode should you wish to. If you don't go for hidpi system font will be almost unusable. Apple is simply doing pixel doubling to go with these displays because they haven't managed to implement real resolution independence. In order for you to not lose screen real estate they have to have a screen that's 4 times the current resolution, and that might not happen in 10 years time, let alone now.
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Oh well. If this turns out to be the case then this will be yet another round of hardware upgrades for me where Apple simply is not an option because of small but important details. Why can't I be the one to decide if the fonts are useless or not? And why couldn't I just then increase font size like I could on a Windows machine? Without gain in real estate any increase would be a waste - if it means less real estate than in the current 15" hi res and 17" MBP then it's even worse.
 
lol no ethernet port? Is this the kind of innovating that Apple is doing?

I think I'm going to stick with Windows this next time around...
 
7enderbender said:
Oh well. If this turns out to be the case then this will be yet another round of hardware upgrades for me where Apple simply is not an option because of small but important details. Why can't I be the one to decide if the fonts are useless or not? And why couldn't I just then increase font size like I could on a Windows machine? Without gain in real estate any increase would be a waste - if it means less real estate than in the current 15" hi res and 17" MBP then it's even worse.
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Because in the Apple world the User Interface is important and "pixel perfect" there's room to increase text size within a range that doesn't offend the overall UI
 
Peace said:
So you're saying only pros use ethernet ?
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No. I'm saying that Pro laptop requires ethernet. Businesses are not going to purchase a £1500/$2000 Pro laptop without Ethernet.

Cellphones are not designed to use Ethernet. They've got a data connection built in and WiFi for when more bandwidth is required. They are not designed to work on hundred megabyte graphics files or massive data sets where a MacBook Pro is and Wi-Fi won't cut it.
 
Spetsnazos said:
lol no ethernet port? Is this the kind of innovating that Apple is doing?

I think I'm going to stick with Windows this next time around...
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Hahahah yes Windows that Paragon of modernity and innovation. Thanks for the chuckle

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MagicBoy said:
No. I'm saying that Pro laptop requires ethernet. Businesses are not going to purchase a £1500/$2000 Pro laptop without Ethernet.
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of course the will.
 
Will you please quite down and accept my currency

Thinner? Good.
Retina Display? Me Guesta.
USB 3.0? f*q yea!

No optical drive? I can use the external one anyway.
No FireWire!?? Hmmmm… I would like to have one on the machine, even though I never use it… or they should have a USB 3.0 to FireWire adaptor for FireWire users out there. (Or maybe they just redesign the FireWire port to make it smaller??)

For now…
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MagicBoy said:
No. I'm saying that Pro laptop requires ethernet. Businesses are not going to purchase a £1500/$2000 Pro laptop without Ethernet.

Cellphones are not designed to use Ethernet. They've got a data connection built in and WiFi for when more bandwidth is required. They are not designed to work on hundred megabyte graphics files or massive data sets where a MacBook Pro is and Wi-Fi won't cut it.
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I could understand businesses not purchasing desktops without Ethernet because they are stationary computers but portables are just that. Portable. Logic dictates fewer cables with a portable device .
Adding a dongle to your laptop is not adding an additional cable.
 
Raizen.Z09 said:
or they should have a USB 3.0 to FireWire adaptor for FireWire users out there.
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It would never work. Firewire is peer-to-peer based and excels at isochronous transfer. It was effectively a serial replacement for SCSI. USB is host based and sucks at isochronous transfers.
 
Peace said:
I could understand businesses not purchasing desktops without Ethernet because they are stationary computers but portables are just that. Portable. Logic dictates fewer cables with a portable device .
Adding a dongle to your laptop is not adding an additional cable.
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USB to Ethernet adaptors suck, both generally and specifically CPU cycles.
 
blow45 said:
Exactly, you won't be seeing any more real estate in the mbp, you will actually lose much screen real estate to go with hidpi mode should you wish to. If you don't go for hidpi system font will be almost unusable. Apple is simply doing pixel doubling to go with these displays because they haven't managed to implement real resolution independence. In order for you to not lose screen real estate they have to have a screen that's 4 times the current resolution, and that might not happen in 10 years time, let alone now.
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Fonts are Vector, how again will you LOSE realestate?
 
mklnz said:
I don't see why many are so upset over the lack of builtin Ethernet port.. I've used an Air for a couple of years and see no trouble using a dongle. The dongle isn't large or clunky, easily fit in any bag. It works as soon as you connect it, you don't need to enable it or anything.

Most of the time I don't even need one, but for the times I do I have it in my bag. It fits right on the end of the Ethernet cable and plugs right in.

In fact you can just leave the dongle on the end of the cable, then plug it when you need. I really see no difference apart from losing a USB slot.
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Time how long it takes to transfer a 30 GB video file (or VM image, or...) on

  1. WiFi
  2. 100 Mbps "USB dongle" Ethernet
  3. Wired GbE

For "time is money" professionals dealing with large file transfers (or impatient amateurs), wired GbE is really important.

(I'm in the "impatient amateur" - it was painful to transfer ISO images of BDs and DVDs from the rip computer to the HTPC - so I wired the house with Cat6 everywhere. Huge, huge difference.)

WiFi or 100 Mbps is fine for Twitter and keeping your Facebook page up-to-date.
 
Peace said:
I could understand businesses not purchasing desktops without Ethernet because they are stationary computers but portables are just that. Portable. Logic dictates fewer cables with a portable device .
Adding a dongle to your laptop is not adding an additional cable.
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But that's exactly what they're doing, they're removing a port and forcing the use of Wifi. Therefore MORE portable, not less.
 
nuckinfutz said:
Thunderbolt doesn't speed degrade. Search for benchmarks of the USB/FW/Ethernet ports on a Thunderbolt display and you'll find that they run at full speed.

Companies often spent extra money on docking stations that remained on a desk yet let laptop users remain mobile. I don't see the problem with having the same type of scenario here.

If Sony or Lenovo were doing such a great job they'd be outselling Apple. They aren't so in this case Steve was right when he said "the customer will tell us if we haven't done a good job by not buying our products"

Some of you guys bitch and complain too much. If you don't like it...send a message and don't buy it.
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Next time reply to my arguments, the bitch and moan defense line for apple in favor of whatever crazy **** they pull on their pro users is old by now. I never said speed was the issue. The issue is having an industry standard interface protocol that's here to stay out of the box.

No docking stations are not an alternative when you go with your PROFESSIONAL notebook into someone's office and they tell you use ethernet to access it, neither at at conference, nor at work, nor at hotels, nor anywhere where one of the vast. Apple just can't pick and choose the standards they keep as they see fit regardless of what industry practise is. It's the same **** as with smb shares in lion, a pro machine simply has to have pro industry wide protocols. I am not bitching about the lack of optical, nor about firewire.

I will be buying the next mbp for one reason only retina to make up for the zero options in terms of resolution independence in os x and the ever shrinking unusable system font. That and the fact that I like a few of os x's past glories and I don't have enough time to migrate to another platform. I am sick of lion and it's slowness, sick of the ios crap features, sick of the bugs and sick of the piss poor development they 've been putting into it, as well as the blackmail they are doing on users to constantly buy new macs by not offering the service pack that is mountain lion to machines as "old" as 2009 and their mac pro line up of a few years ago.

And I am also sick that whenever they do something that makes absolutely no bloody sense as take ethernet away or stick an untreated glass (even crt's used to have treated glass) on their computers someone will be around from the cult to defend them and accuse others about bitching.

I am suggesting windows 8 to all my friends and acquaintances btw, and to wait for windows 8 tablets too or go with android. They might miss out on the great ml reminders app and twitter integration but they 'll also pay 20-40% less for a better product.
 
marcusj0015 said:
But that's exactly what they're doing, they're removing a port and forcing the use of Wifi. Therefore MORE portable, not less.
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Depends where you go. Walk into the company where I work and you can't connect a Mac to the corporate WiFi. Therefore your £1500 Pro laptop is as much use as a portable rock.

Now if it had an Ethernet port all would be well...
 
blow45 said:
Next time reply to my arguments, the bitch and moan defense line for apple in favor of whatever crazy **** they pull on their pro users is old by now. I never said speed was the issue. The issue is having an industry standard interface protocol that's here to stay out of the box.

No docking stations are not an alternative when you go with your PROFESSIONAL notebook into someone's office and they tell you use ethernet to access it, neither at at conference, nor at work, nor at hotels, nor anywhere where one of the vast. Apple just can't pick and choose the standards they keep as they see fit regardless of what industry practise is. It's the same **** as with smb shares in lion, a pro machine simply has to have pro industry wide protocols. I am not bitching about the lack of optical, nor about firewire.

I will be buying the next mbp for one reason only retina to make up for the zero options in terms of resolution independence in os x and the ever shrinking unusable system font. That and the fact that I like a few of os x's past glories and I don't have enough time to migrate to another platform. I am sick of lion and it's slowness, sick of the ios crap features, sick of the bugs and sick of the piss poor development they 've been putting into it, as well as the blackmail they are doing on users to constantly buy new macs by not offering the service pack that is mountain lion to machines as "old" as 2009 and their mac pro line up of a few years ago.

And I am also sick that whenever they do something that makes absolutely no bloody sense as take ethernet away or stick an untreated glass (even crt's used to have treated glass) on their computers someone will be around from the cult to defend them and accuse others about bitching.

I am suggesting windows 8 to all my friends and acquaintances btw, and to wait for windows 8 tablets too or go with android. They might miss out on the great ml reminders app and twitter integration but they 'll also pay 20-40% less for a better product.
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LMFAO at Windows 8. You ARe bitching though, you have two choices, Go with Shiwdows, or keep using Mac. at the end of the day, that's what it comes down to.
 
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