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Yeah, I know that was kinda bulshit, but if we have 802.11AC who really cares?

If it was a widespread standard then 802.11ac is fine, but it still lacks security. And it is in no way a widespread standard. Only one product to the public currently has it, Netgears new router. And it is STILL slower, wireless always will be. It can't compete with a physical cable that doesn't have to cope with brick walls for one thing.

I would rather Apple concentrated on putting 5GHZ wireless N in the next iPhone then 802.11ac in the next laptop!
 
After reading the last few pages of this argument it does make you wonder why people are up in arms about a RUMOUR. Who really knows if the next MBP will have a ethernet port or not and at the moment who really cares.
I bet life was much simpler when the first iMac came out with no floppy drive, there weren't so many forums to moan about the lack of the floppy drive.
Times change, things become obsolete, we all manage to live in the end.
SUre rumours are fun but no need to get cross about them!
 
You can't satisfy everyone I suppose..

These are good on my book..

Removal of Optical Drive --> Good
Removal of Ethernet -> Good

I'd go even further and get rid of SD, all USB, and all Firewire, and add 1 or 2 more Thunderbolt with optional dongles for these..

I rarely use the firewire, usb, SD.. these days, thanks to Thunderbolt Display..
You bought the wrong machine. You should of bought a Mac Mini if you are only going to use a MBP with a Thunderbolt Display.
 
If it was a widespread standard then 802.11ac is fine, but it still lacks security. And it is in no way a widespread standard. Only one product to the public currently has it, Netgears new router. And it is STILL slower, wireless always will be. It can't compete with a physical cable that doesn't have to cope with brick walls for one thing.

Calm down, if Apple releases a Macbook with 802.11AC, it'll release a new Airport router alongside it.
 
3 USB ports? Finally! So we'll finally have as many USB ports as the cheapest netbook around.

USB 3.0: great, now that we see that Thunderbolt ended up just like the MiniDisplay Port: used in nothing except very expensive Apple screens.

Losing the Ethernet port isn't great since I use it all the time (no WiFi around here), but if that's the only way to make the machine thinner, then I say go for it! With a USB adapter, it should work fine.

Sounds good to me!
 
After reading the last few pages of this argument it does make you wonder why people are up in arms about a RUMOUR.

Let's assume (just for the moment) that everything in the rumour is true. It seems to me many of the people up in arms seem to think that they can change things by complaining.

This isn't true, of course. If there's a new MBP coming out next month, its design is set. Whether it has an ethernet port or not, an ODD or not, it's too late to change it.
 
let's assume (just for the moment) that everything in the rumour is true. It seems to me many of the people up in arms seem to think that they can change things by complaining.

This isn't true, of course. If there's a new mbp coming out next month, its design is set. Whether it has an ethernet port or not, an odd or not, it's too late to change it.

this.
 
3 USB ports? Finally! So we'll finally have as many USB ports as the cheapest netbook around.

USB 3.0: great, now that we see that Thunderbolt ended up just like the MiniDisplay Port: used in nothing except very expensive Apple screens.

Losing the Ethernet port isn't great since I use it all the time (no WiFi around here), but if that's the only way to make the machine thinner, then I say go for it! With a USB adapter, it should work fine.

Sounds good to me!

DisplayPort is used in a lot of monitors other than Apple's. I have 2 Dells with it, I know HP, NEC, Samsung, and LaCie are just a few others to use it. And both ATI and Nvidia graphics cards are available with an output.

There isn't a better alternative. DVI is the only one that comes close, and we both know how bulky of a connector it is.
 
Hi there, I use the ethernet port on my Macbook to transfer several gigabyte uncompressed videos from my campus' video lab server all the time. Doing that over a wimpy USB-ethernet adapter would easily take 5-6 times longer.

USB is great for small little things but is complete garbage for larger files.

That's because currently MBA only have USB 2.0, i would expect better dongles with USB 3.0 that support gigabit
 
Let's assume (just for the moment) that everything in the rumour is true. It seems to me many of the people up in arms seem to think that they can change things by complaining.

This isn't true, of course. If there's a new MBP coming out next month, its design is set. Whether it has an ethernet port or not, an ODD or not, it's too late to change it.

Yes, but, this is the internet and it allows us to electronically shout at each other over Apples possible decisions, because we are either all bored or Apple fans. What would you do without the internet?

And in reference to the above comment about 2 hard drives, EXACTLY! The story has no reports on weather these new machines will have an option for a mSata drive and a normal SATA SSD! Which is what it should do really.
 
All im waiting for is Apple to put a decent GPU into their laptops that I can get in other PC laptops. That is all I need to pay for the premium everything else. I'm not going to make the same mistake as I did in 2008 and buy a very expensive MBP with a poor GPU. I suppose with the potential size reduction my hopes will be in vain. I just dont want to spend $2400 to get a GPU and components that I can get in a PC for much much less. OSX isn't worth that much to me I can get a similar experience in Ubuntu and Windows 7 works wonderfully for me. I love Apple's laptop design and it would be a shame to get a ******** looking laptop.
 
I'm sure they will, but I hardly consider spending hundreds more for an Apple product a suitable response to dropping a port whose standard is everywhere and been used perfectly fine for years.

I'm sure Apple would though.

Yeah then Apple will make the iPhone crippled like it is now. The 4s can only see 2.4ghz n so no one can actually use the 5ghz n band at home.
 
Could you explain that to me again? Does this mean that even though we may be seeing more pixels in the 15" MBP but we won't gain more real estate in something like PhotoShop, Lightroom or Cubase?

Exactly, you won't be seeing any more real estate in the mbp, you will actually lose much screen real estate to go with hidpi mode should you wish to. If you don't go for hidpi system font will be almost unusable. Apple is simply doing pixel doubling to go with these displays because they haven't managed to implement real resolution independence. In order for you to not lose screen real estate they have to have a screen that's 4 times the current resolution, and that might not happen in 10 years time, let alone now.
 
so you think there will be at least one regular hard drive slot? cuz i just bought a SSD for the new MBP..it will be sad if i can't use it...

No, Apple SHOULD offer mSata or Blade SSD AND a normal drive bay with SATA3. If your ditching the ODD then it's daft not to? You can have RAID in effect across 2 256GB SSD drives. It is what I am hoping they will do, Alienware offer this option in it's M14X.
 
That's because currently MBA only have USB 2.0, i would expect better dongles with USB 3.0 that support gigabit

Assuming someone comes up with a USB 3.0 chipset and they've sorted the performance issues with the host bus.

The problem with USB2 Ethernet dongles is the CPU usage - it's woefully inefficient due to the way that the USB bus is operated.

Just turning the bus speed up won't help at all. Firewire always had the performance advantage as the devices talked directly to each other, rather than via the CPU so the overheads are much lower.
 
Wow first, then sadness

Finally 3 USB ports! But... no ethernet!? wtf Apple!? There is not fast wifi everywhere! Going to buy older 15" rather... I really need eth at work/home.
 
Yeah then Apple will make the iPhone crippled like it is now. The 4s can only see 2.4ghz n so no one can actually use the 5ghz n band at home.

eh? You can use multiple wireless speeds on routers now? But the iPhones 2.4 doesn't go up to the 250mbps speeds it can as I understand. Doesn't make a difference downloading things but it does if you use wireless syncing.
 
so you think there will be at least one regular hard drive slot? cuz i just bought a SSD for the new MBP..it will be sad if i can't use it...

Let's cross our fingers

No, Apple SHOULD offer mSata or Blade SSD AND a normal drive bay with SATA3. If your ditching the ODD then it's daft not to? You can have RAID in effect across 2 256GB SSD drives. It is what I am hoping they will do, Alienware offer this option in it's M14X.

Agreed. In a couple of revisions i'd like to see the SSD Blade connected to the PCI-Express bus for incredible speed.
 
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