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Third-Party Apps Can't Take Full Advantage of iPhone 13 Pro 120Hz ProMotion Displays [Updated]
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What are you talking about? I’m so excited to finally get something that fits in my pocket!
No need to only suspect, they demoed this exact functionality at the event. You can see the variable refresh rate fall off dramatically as the scroll decelerates. There would be no reason for a refresh rate like 80hz to appear during this process unless it was adjusting to the speed of the moving objects, which is really clever.
It's an oversight or bug. I couldn't find where the original claim of "Apple's apps are exempt" came from, but you can find animations in Apple's apps that are running at 60hz. There's also no API for 120hz, it's something that happens in the UI framework automatically. There would be no need to hide any API from developers because there is no API.
The TL;DR for new readers is that ProMotion is 60-90Hz, and mostly 60.
Galaxy S21 Ultra DRR works properly and dynamically changes between 60Hz and 120Hz with browser scrolling while on the iPad Pro M1 it's capped at 60Hz regardless if scrolling. 10Hz is too low on the iPhone 13 so prefer a more sane lower end Hz to maintain positive user experience. For example, I don't want ProMotion to mistakenly run the display at 10Hz when watching 60Hz YouTube.
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Based on some stuff I saw on Twitter iOS dev accounts stuff, it seems like you have to update the app to use specific APIs to set the refresh rate. This seems very plausible since Tweetbot has nice scrolling while Gmail doesn’t.
I see! I edited my comment after I saw more people corroborating you (particularly blurbusters complaining about this very issue since ProMotion debuted on the iPad).
EDIT: The blurbusters complaint is that some content in Safari is limited to 60FPS, not that Safari itself isn't scrolling up to 120FPS (and therefore boosting the refresh rate to 120Hz).
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Once again, you’re confusing the content’s refresh rate with the refresh rate of the viewer. You understand that it is possible for the media content to update at a rate of 60hz that’s independent of whatever the rendering browser is updating in? I don’t know why you’re trying so hard to gaslight everyone into thinking the iPad Pro Safari scrolls at 60hz when anyone with eyes can see it’s not true.
…and just like that, a simple acknowledgment and fix renders six pages of whining moot.
I also forget the app exists because I do everything from the phone or messages app, but I guess I assumed the contacts were stored in the contacts app and that's what all other apps were using to access the data.
Maybe they've just memorized all their important phone numbers? That's how we used to do it back in the old days.
I used to do that as well 😀 but thank God we have Contacts now.
Ended up bought Palm Pilot 20 years ago because I couldn't deal with this memorizing anymore.
I mean, we dont have that massive premium camera array
(thankfully honestly, the amount the lenses protrude would bug the crap out of me I think)
Pretty sure this will be fixed, since obviously else there will be a lawsuit for false advertisement and some returns based on this reason. Enough people / organizations wish to have some of the Apple pie.
I did not see an asterisk on apple.com next to 120 Hz figure, stating that some animations (3d party or otherwise) are limited to 60 Hz.
This is hilarious, imagine all those new iPhone owners to being amazed with their screen animation smoothness.... whilst it didn't work at all ...
As long as you need tools and websites to prove the 120Hz actually works, you might wonder whether you needed it in the first place.
I'm still a happy camper with the ProMotion on my iPad M1 though...
As long as you need tools and websites to prove the 120Hz actually works, you might wonder whether you needed it in the first place.
I'm still a happy camper with the ProMotion on my iPad M1 though...
Many are amazed about it as the scrolling speed is still 120hz. Going from 60hz to this is still very noticeable. It’s the animations is what the issue is
Mi7chy, you made a good point of this but I believe this even goes farther back to some of the older iPad Pro models as well with promotion. Both my galaxy Tab S7 plus and my Note 20 ultra run 120 HZ in a more obvious and smooth matter. Even a lenovo tablet at 90 HZ runs smoother as well. I also have 144 HZ monitors and those are obvious to.
I just know I never notice that type of smoothness on my iPad Pro 2018 1 tb with 6 gb ram cellular model (Runs perfectly smooth enough if I ignore the 120 HZ or higher on other devices) And tests shows that it mostly sticks at 60HZ when browsing safari but does switch back n forth but it does seem like chrome is at 120 HZ but the device gets hotter so they are using it to save battery at times.
I just never really felt like my device was 120 HZ until I experienced it with other products besides Apple.
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