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This Is How We Will Use Apple Pay with iPhone X
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I think OP might be misinterpreting the strings. It's been confirmed from the GM leak that you can summon Apple Pay by double clicking the side button, similar to how you summon Apple Pay on the Watch. This is what the above string might mean, "Double Click to Pay" means you double click the side button, FaceID will immediately scan and authorise Apple Pay and then you simply bring the phone near the terminal and thats it.
I don't think it means you first double click the side button to summon Apple Pay, get your face scanned and then double click again to confirm, that's too many steps.
I don't think it means you first double click the side button to summon Apple Pay, get your face scanned and then double click again to confirm, that's too many steps.
I think OP might be misinterpreting the strings. It's been confirmed from the GM leak that you can summon Apple Pay by double clicking the side button, similar to how you summon Apple Pay on the Watch. This is what the above string might mean, "Double Click to Pay" means you double click the side button, FaceID will immediately scan and authorise Apple Pay and then you simply bring the phone near the terminal and thats it.
I don't think it means you first double click the side button to summon Apple Pay, get your face scanned and then double click again to confirm, that's too many steps.
I don't think it means you first double click the side button to summon Apple Pay, get your face scanned and then double click again to confirm, that's too many steps.
The watch is security authenticated by putting it on and inputting your passcode.
Then, to use ApplePay you just double push the button then hold near the payment receiver.
No code to input on phone or watch after the initial unlock when putting on the watch, just double press the button and hold/wave near receiver.
Then, to use ApplePay you just double push the button then hold near the payment receiver.
No code to input on phone or watch after the initial unlock when putting on the watch, just double press the button and hold/wave near receiver.
I have AW. You have two ways to unlock it. One is via Touch ID on the iPhone or password on the watch. When the watch is off the wrist it will always ask for password. Even after you enter password and watch is off the wrist it will relock itself after a minute or so.
But if you leave the watch on the wrist after unlock via Touch ID or password it be unlocked.
NFC payment does not automatically happen, you need to double click power button to bring up wallet and once you put the wrist near reader it’s paid.
This is exactly how Face ID payment will work. Double click power button and phone would have already scan your face then put the phone near reader, obviously you would briefly have to look at the phone for a fraction of the second. Not sure why this process would be slower than using Touch ID? I always look at the phone to see the fingerprint animation to make sure it goes through. Non-issue with either method.
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I agreed. Apple definitely wants to make things consistent with Apple Watch. This was how I imagine how payment would work even before the leak. Longer power button was the clue.
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it works like this:
it's really easy.
doing the same with iphone X should be easy too. it will just need line of sight to your face while you double press to confirm who you are and afterwards you can hold it to the terminal. should be just a fast if faceID works well.
I don't think you'll have to look directly at the phone. It'll probably work from an angle, and with a lot of the readers (in the UK at least), it will probably be able to see me whilst hovering over the reader.
My guess is you'll also be able to authenticate and get Apple Pay ready before you get to the terminal as you can currently.
Will it work every bit as well as TouchID......I have no idea. What I do know is, I'll be getting the new iPhone no matter what, as I like the iPhones hardware/software combo more than any other device...and I'll be getting the X, as I want the OLED screen. I will therefore just adapt to whatever features Apple puts on the device.
I also know that no matter how much I may disagree with a feature that Apple puts on a device......no amount of asking will get them to change their mind. If people don't like a particular feature, then buy another phone......it's as simple as that.
It is far easier to pay using the Watch, so if it is indeed duplicating that process, I see the benefit and it is a good thing / progress I agree.
Id say for people who have a phone and a watch, 99% of the time, the Watch would be used for Apple Pay due to convenience?
Seems fairly easy. Currently I double click the home button on my locked iPhone 7, and leave my thumb on TouchID to authenticate. Then I hold my phone near the terminal and it’s done.
With iPhone X, you will double-click the power button (instead of home button), the phone will visually authenticate you, and you’ll hold the phone near the terminal. Nearly the same process.
With iPhone X, you will double-click the power button (instead of home button), the phone will visually authenticate you, and you’ll hold the phone near the terminal. Nearly the same process.
Why do you need to double click on the home button? I just press the button to wake up my phone as I place it over the terminal, and let my thumb rest there while it authorizes, and it's done.
You may be able to do the same with the X, as long as your face is within the 3D camera's field of view. Then you just simply bring the phone near the terminal, it will launch Apple Pay and then your face will be scanned and payment done.
That's not a good idea! You'd authorize payments whenever you're looking at your phone near an active terminal. There had to be some deliberate action involved.
You have to bring the phone very close to the terminal, like 2-3 centimetres, for Apple Pay to summon. Which means you can only authorise it when it's your turn to pay for the things at checkout. It's not like it'll authorise while your standing in line waiting for your turn to come. And when its your turn to pay at checkout area you won't be busy looking at your phone, you will be observing what the person behind the checkout desk is doing - scanning the barcode of your item, putting it in the bag, etc. Then the person will activate the terminal to accept your payment and you can bring your phone near and pay. Even if you're looking at the phone, as I said, you need to bring your phone extremely close to the terminal to activate (2-3 cms).
Won't it be awkward pointing the camera at your face while holding it so close to the terminal?
Not that it would affect everyone, but there is the possibility of having multiple credit cards and needing to choose one.
Yeah, but if FaceID is so secure and accurate that it’s going to be used for Banks and Apple Pay now, I highly doubt TouchID will return, which is sad
Very good possibility they are tracking blood vessels in the face as well as structural features, if they can do that, no need for hand or fingerprints. I still hope they add it later just as a secondary option for authorization.
Yeah, but if FaceID is so secure and accurate that it’s going to be used for Banks and Apple Pay now, I highly doubt TouchID will return, which is sad
Very good possibility they are tracking blood vessels in the face as well as structural features, if they can do that, no need for hand or fingerprints. I still hope they add it later just as a secondary option for authorization.
If you want to get a sense of what they're tracking
Just wait, if Samsung gets in-display fingerprint recognition In the S9 or later... Apple will most definitely have to bring back TouchID unless Samsung has some patent that requires royalties to be paid out to Samsung for using the technology.
Who knows, they might call it the Damsing Galaxy SX and have this underlying marketing phrase "What the iPhone X should have been."
Who knows, they might call it the Damsing Galaxy SX and have this underlying marketing phrase "What the iPhone X should have been."
Once Apple removes something it never brings it back. FaceID is the future. They will continue to refine it and most likely the next year's iPhone 9 and 9+ will have FaceID v2 built in.
Just wait until Samsung comes out with a device with in-display fingerprint recognition.