You mean about rotating? Wow are you really that bad with navigation that you cannot read road signs to work out which direction you're facing for a map?! How did you cope before the iPhone getting around?! Lol. Or are you that desperate to not admit you have no substance to your argument you'll cling to a tiny little gimmick?!
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You mean about rotating? Wow are you really that bad with navigation that you cannot read road signs to work out which direction you're facing for a map?! How did you cope before the iPhone getting around?! Lol. Or are you that desperate to not admit you have no substance to your argument you'll cling to a tiny little gimmick?!
This is pure speculation on your part, and it has no basis in reality. I can't speak in specifics because I'm under NDA, but if you know anything about Objective-C apps, you'll know that they are compiled binaries and you can't just lift some functionality out of one and display in another. What you're proposing wouldn't work, and I don't remember Forstall saying 3rd party transit apps would be integrated *into* the Maps app. There will be a hand-off which, as I said earlier in this thread that has gone on too long, will be a terrible user experience.
My only guess as to the 'why' is that Apple wanted to do transit in Maps, but they ran out of time. So they're presenting this as a feature, the same way Jobs said 3rd party web apps were so great the year before they introduced the app store and SDK. It's damage control.
Fittingly since the discussion was about NYC, the greatest use I ever got out of compass (during two years in Brooklyn) was coming out of subway stops. NYC avenues are long and it's not necessarily obvious which direction to start walking. Realizing you've gone the opposite way and having to turn back is a pain.
Btw, with so many tech reviewers like The Verge in NYC Apple is really risking getting panned on Maps being a downgrade. For my own part I'm willing to wait and see the final product (and whether a Google app will appear) but if anything may keep me from the next iPhone it's this.
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Do you have reading comprehension issues? I am talking about Boston. And there are plenty. You actually buy the spot (deeded) versus rent/lease it.
And... you are wrong about... well, everything.
Well I've managed to deal with coming out of tube stations in London on many occasions, looked at the map and the road signs to get my bearings on a map, sometimes with the compass it comes up wanting to calibrate, by the time it's done that and gotten settled, I've spotted the roads already and worked out which direction I am in relation to the map...
People seem to be far far too dependant on tech than they need to be....
And this is the most reasonable sentence of all in this entire thread.
Look, I and millions of other that don't use public transportation would much prefer turn by turn. That's the huge upgrade and it's to bad transit got put on the chopping block but many many more people don't use it then do.
That being said, of transit is that important, just don't upgrade. No one is forcing you to upgrade your OS, the only bad that will come of not upgrading is the little icon on the settings app. Also no on is forcing you to upgrade to an iPhone. If you insist on upgrading phones and you have to have transit, there are plenty of decent Android phones available and some of them like the One X and Galaxy3 are that big of a downgrade from an iPhone to be big deal.
So simply don't upgrade and you will not have a problem.
Such as yourself, as the Google Apps web app does not use it.
Which was my point.
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Until API fragmentation breaks my existing apps and wild code execution exploits compromise my security.
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Someone seems very upset that they didn't know what the word compass meant.
Do you have reading comprehension issues? I am talking about Boston. And there are plenty. You actually buy the spot (deeded) versus rent/lease it.
And... you are wrong about... well, everything.
No, it's you that have reading comprehension problems. I stated "you guys" as referring to the entire parking conversation. Nobody asked you to bring Boston into this. BTW ... Ha Ha @ Celtics.
It's easy to tell from the building numbers. 5 avenue for most of Manhattan splits east from west with the address numbers starting at that point. So if your on 8 ave, head where the numbers go down to get to 7 ave. If your on 3 ave, you'll need to head where the number go down to get to 5 ave.
Downtown basically below Houston St is not based on the grid system. You'll need a map or some type of reference.
Like i said, ive never lived there but know many who have and they said you buy the parking spaces, and this WAS many years ago as well. I guess you could lease one too as you stated but ive only heard about buying them.
I dont know, i did a 10 second search. You tell me how legit this is. Seems pretty crazy to me.
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/the_million_parking_space_AjkgazGpILpNDaRLPm1iyK
Another
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07/12/us/12parking.html
Here is another that says the typical going rate for one in Manhattan is $225,000.
http://activerain.com/blogsview/3291634/are-any-parking-spaces-for-sale-in-manhattan-ny-faq-2-
I've been googling around, some places claim that the transit apps will plugin and be displayed within maps, others claim that it will simply launch an external app. However things seem to be slanted towards launching external apps.
It's a little disappointing from a UI perspective, but honestly I'm still not bothered.
Remember that app I mentioned earlier, the one I wasn't sure if it could handle the London underground? Well I tested it out, yes it can handle the underground and busses etc. It showed me a train journey from where I live, into London, then it showed me multiple ways through London and then a train journey from there on out.
Admittedly this is a UK app and not New York, but surely something similar exists or will be created very soon.
This was the OPs main complaint, that the new transit apps wouldn't be able to calculate routes involving multiple modes of transportation, that a separate app would be needed for each mode (one for bus, another for subway, another for bike ect) however I find it more likely that a developer will release a single app called "New York", covering all available modes of travel and working out the best method. Apple created a gap in the market, then put a big red flag beside it to attract developers.
Is the current app a downgrade and lacking functions present in the current app? Yep. Will this be a problem in a few months? Doubt it.
The lack of street view and spotty flyover coverage are more of a concern to me.
It's a little disappointing from a UI perspective, but honestly I'm still not bothered.
Remember that app I mentioned earlier, the one I wasn't sure if it could handle the London underground? Well I tested it out, yes it can handle the underground and busses etc. It showed me a train journey from where I live, into London, then it showed me multiple ways through London and then a train journey from there on out.
Admittedly this is a UK app and not New York, but surely something similar exists or will be created very soon.
This was the OPs main complaint, that the new transit apps wouldn't be able to calculate routes involving multiple modes of transportation, that a separate app would be needed for each mode (one for bus, another for subway, another for bike ect) however I find it more likely that a developer will release a single app called "New York", covering all available modes of travel and working out the best method. Apple created a gap in the market, then put a big red flag beside it to attract developers.
Is the current app a downgrade and lacking functions present in the current app? Yep. Will this be a problem in a few months? Doubt it.
The lack of street view and spotty flyover coverage are more of a concern to me.
You know what bothers me the most? Its not that Apple's map system is inferior its the fact that google has already mastered the map market and Apple for whatever reason had to make a "me-too" feature of something that was mastered around 4 or 5 years ago (I know google maps started in 2005 but it wasn't complete at that time).
I really don't understand how Apple figured that a new map application is something the general population needs, especially when they are so far behind google maps.
Think they could have found something better as a "major" feature of iOS 6, the new map app wasn't even necessary unless this is just to stick it to Google. In that case isn't their customers more important than sticking it to the competitors?
I really don't understand how Apple figured that a new map application is something the general population needs, especially when they are so far behind google maps.
Think they could have found something better as a "major" feature of iOS 6, the new map app wasn't even necessary unless this is just to stick it to Google. In that case isn't their customers more important than sticking it to the competitors?
That's for your own private parking garage or private parking. Your talking about ownership.
It's quite possibly because Google Maps for iOS has hardly changed since version 1.0 and Apple decided to take matters into their own hands. Give the beta process a few months and most people complaining here will be pretty content with the final product.
I hope you are right. I hope they complete the map project because its not the first time Apple has half baked an idea. (iTunes match being a half baked idea)
As I understand it, the stock maps app on the iPhone right now IS made by Apple. They just used the map data from Google. So for the past few years it has been up to Apple to upgrade the app, not Google. As we have heard from Google they would love to reach more ios users so I am sure they wanted to update the map experience on ios. My take? Since a apple has been building their own in house maps they didn't care about updating the stock maps app. They just held off so they could unveil this new Apple Maps.
I'll agree with you on that. iTunes Match has been an awful headache for me with mismatched songs, info being screwed up and explicit versions swapping with clean versions.
But Apple has made such a big deal about their news Maps experience that I doubt they'll disappoint.
You should have told Mark Zuckerberg that's Facebook wasn't worth creating since MySpace already existed.
Except Facebook took it to a whole new level what does apple offer that google maps doesn't have? The 3d gimmick?
Google Maps will have the same 3D as Apple Maps in the next version of the android app coming out soon. Google demoed it at their Google Maps event a week before WWDC, along with offline maps and better satellite images and streetview for national parks. So no, Apple Maps doesn't even have that. they have nothing that GMaps doesn't.
That's not how it works in big cities with huge transit systems. There may be five or six options to get you where you want to go, including multiple buses, subways, etc. One of the big advantages of Google maps is that it told you which option was most efficient based on your proximity to various stops/stations and all the scheduled trains and buses and their departure times. Now that convenience will be gone. Maps in iOS 6 will be a disappointment for many New Yorkers (and San Franciscans and Vancouverites and etc. etc. People for whom turn-by-turn is fairly useless).
Thank you. Couldn't have said it better.
And people who drive don't need turn-by-turn on a daily basis. They mostly need it when they're travelling. I'd guess as many people use the mass transit routing regularly as would use turn-by-turn navigation.