That’s a nice price point if true. If the oled screens are updated from last year, the iPhone x(s)+ could be my next phone.
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This Year's iPhone X and iPhone X Plus Could Start at $899 and $999 Respectively Says RBC Analyst
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The only way that's going to happen is if people don't buy it. Something that isn't in a huge portion of Apple user's vocabulary.
They are going to slowly creep the price up until they see a drop in profits. So never. I guarantee we will see $2,000 phones in the next 10 to 15 years.
One of the reasons why I returned mine. The X has three huge flaws for me: iOS 11, the notch, and FaceID not being there yet. When I factored in those issues I had with it, I couldn't justify the 1k cost. It just didn't feel 'right'. Even if those issues didn't exist, I would still feel wrong about spending 1k on a phone.
That almost sounds like an iPhone X (c) especially if it has an aluminum body. Maybe it will come out in lots of colors like the iPod Touch.
Remember when we used to make fun of other OEMs for having way too many options? I cant imagine what its like working at an Apple store and trying to explain which iPhone does what LOL 90s Apple called, it wants it product line back
Yeah it's more like a slightly larger 4.7" iPhone in a similar sized body. Everyone makes the mistake of comparing the X to the Plus models when the 6.5" will be more like that, just in a slightly larger body with the bezels stripped away.
Wow, that would be a lot of phones in the lineup.
The 8+ for under $700 would be a great buy, even 1 year after it was introduced.
I can see Apple dropping the 8 and 7+ but maybe keeping the 7 as the budget iPhone for people who want a bigger than SE screen.
Or maybe dropping the 8+ with the idea that the new 6.1" LCD iPhone would replace it.
The SE is too small for me, but it's a great phone for a lot of people. I hope Apple at least bumps the processor and camera up to iPhone 7 specs or better, and keeps it in the lineup for another year.
The 8+ for under $700 would be a great buy, even 1 year after it was introduced.
I can see Apple dropping the 8 and 7+ but maybe keeping the 7 as the budget iPhone for people who want a bigger than SE screen.
Or maybe dropping the 8+ with the idea that the new 6.1" LCD iPhone would replace it.
The SE is too small for me, but it's a great phone for a lot of people. I hope Apple at least bumps the processor and camera up to iPhone 7 specs or better, and keeps it in the lineup for another year.
Finally, someone that gets it. Apple has failed to turn a profit in so long, you'd think they would realize these simple facts.
It for sure is a mess and is reminiscent of 90s Apple before Steve returned, which isn't a good thing.
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Why so pessimistic... (about the 10-15 year range)? I'd cut that to 3-8 years myself. We already have a feel for how that goes:
- A bunch of of us will proudly gush "...but who makes the most profitable phone" (which would certainly be the case at $2K) every chance we get, and,
- A bunch of us will rationalize it to ourselves- and then aggressively to anyone else- by pushing the payment plan amounts "only $8.XX more per month". Stretch out the term long enough and a $2K phone can still be "only $8.XX more per month." (as can a $3K phone, a $4K phone and a $5K phone).
Apple achieved its goal with the $1K iPhone X. Suddenly $899 for the same level device seems reasonable the following year. Prices are still about $100 - $150 higher than they should be. There is no reason the iPhone X could not competitively sell at $799 other than Apple's corporate greed.
I know corporations are theoretically supposed to prioritize shareholders over customers, and Apple is doing a wonderful job at that, but I tend to agree more when Steve Jobs said "As soon as we can lower prices, we do. It’s true that our computers are less expensive today than they were a few years ago, or even last year. But that’s also true of the IBM PC. Our goal is to get computers out to tens of millions of people, and the cheaper we can make them, the easier it’s going to be to do that."
It is a balancing act between what is best for customers and what is best for stockholders. Unfortunately Tim Cook's Apple has swung way too far toward the corporate finance side of things. I would like to think Steve Jobs would have priced the iPhone X in a way that it would have been the runaway best seller for the year in order to get his prized product out to as many fans as possible.
I know corporations are theoretically supposed to prioritize shareholders over customers, and Apple is doing a wonderful job at that, but I tend to agree more when Steve Jobs said "As soon as we can lower prices, we do. It’s true that our computers are less expensive today than they were a few years ago, or even last year. But that’s also true of the IBM PC. Our goal is to get computers out to tens of millions of people, and the cheaper we can make them, the easier it’s going to be to do that."
It is a balancing act between what is best for customers and what is best for stockholders. Unfortunately Tim Cook's Apple has swung way too far toward the corporate finance side of things. I would like to think Steve Jobs would have priced the iPhone X in a way that it would have been the runaway best seller for the year in order to get his prized product out to as many fans as possible.
Yep, I was definitely duped with the 5.8" sizing. But stuck with it just cause I wanted to try the new all-screen layout. Will probably go to the plus variant of the X if it comes out. sucks that an all screen device has less screen real-estate then the 8+ that has large bezels.
If this story was all based on a guess, then I'll take a guess...
Apple is NOT dropping the price of these phones. They know customers will some day have to replace their existing phones. Of course they can no longer add code to the OS update to help make that happen like in years past (and there you go! Apple fans go ballistic.)
If revenues were record breaking it makes no sense to drop prices. Not even if they are shipping / selling less phones.
Apple is NOT dropping the price of these phones. They know customers will some day have to replace their existing phones. Of course they can no longer add code to the OS update to help make that happen like in years past (and there you go! Apple fans go ballistic.)
If revenues were record breaking it makes no sense to drop prices. Not even if they are shipping / selling less phones.
Yeah I think many were comparing it to the Plus too much expecting it to be even larger, and they still do. I don't blame them because it is 5.8" compared to the Plus's 5.5" after all, it's just that dumb aspect ratio. The 6.5" X will be more for you and should offer a bit more screen in a similar sized body of todays Plus.
A 6.5" screen would be pretty big they would be entering into Note territory, if they are able to put a 6.5" screen into the same size as the 7 Plus (and 8 Plus) that would be great! i loved my iPhone 7 Plus, the iPhone X is a great phone i've found Face ID to work brilliantly and is easily one of my favourite features.
If they do release a 6.5" version i wonder if we will see more productivity features kind of like on the Note but better, for example split screen would be great.
If they do release a 6.5" version i wonder if we will see more productivity features kind of like on the Note but better, for example split screen would be great.
A phone that costs more than the average American's mortgage payment....RIGHT.
Pretty sure I won't be buying. So sad what Apple has become.
Pretty sure I won't be buying. So sad what Apple has become.
Based on what? Fake news? Did you see Apple sold 83M iPhones on the 14 week basis and did 13% more revenue/profit y/y, over 20% more when you consider 13 week vs 14 week quarters.
1) These Prices aren't confirmed, but keep taking rumors as fact...a theme here.
2) Apple has sold the X well if you look at the official numbers ($62B in iPhone revenue, $796 ASP - both up substantially y/y)
3) iPhone X only sold 2 months in the Dec Quarter
4) The iPhone X Plus will likely cost more than $999, so not really an admission that "4 digit" priced phones don't work.
5) Flagship Android phones are nearing $1,000.
6) Apple sold 83M+ iPhones in 14 weeks at an ASP of almost $800
7) The strategy is working based a their record quarter across the board.
But don't let facts get in the way of a good story. Base your opinions entirely on Macrumors haters who don't actually have a clue and fake news designed to manipulate the stock. Rinse and repeat.
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Apple has turned a profit every quarters for the last 20 years, what are you on about?
They made a ton of money this past quarter, so I am sure they are happy. I compare it to the MacBook Air that came out at a very high price due to the higher manufacturing costs, but eventually came down to an acceptable level. One year of that is fine, not a big deal.
Why would someone pay $569 USD for a 2 year old phone at the point when the cheap X/X/X+ come out? I am not even considering a 2018 iPhone at all either.
It's Apple 101, price it as high as people are willing to pay. I don't know why you think it was different when Steve Jobs was around. The original iPods were some of the most expensive MP3 players on the market. The original iPhones (during Steve Jobs time) were priced higher then competitors as well. It's the way of Apple. The sooner people bail on them, the sooner they'll start to move away from that philosophy. Anyone in the senior management position at Apple that doesn't follow that line, won't be in that position for long.