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I upgrade yearly thru the iphone upgrade program. last year this resulted in a 5 dollar a month change. I don't think many people are paying full price all at once for these devices.

Right. So hopefully Apple will just keep jacking up the full pricing by a few hundred each year for up to forever. A few hundred more only adds $5 more dollars per month to the monthly payment plan. Bring on the $1400 iPhone, and then the $1700, and then the $2K phone. At only $5 more per month, anyone can afford an iPhone at ANY price.
 
8 different iphones seems like a little much

I don't understand this argument - what is the downside of having 8 (or 10) phones with prices ranging from $3000 to $1,200 if the phones all run smoothly and perform the tasks the user requires?

On a broader note, I'm likely to upgrade to a 256G phone this year. I need a dual camera, so it is probably going to be one of the new X models. Actually, an 8+ could be a good buy this fall at 256G even though I currently have one.
 
Apple must have realised that people are not willing to pay a four digit figure for a phone. Better later than never. Their arrogant strategy was punished by customers and the iPhone X basically flopped, which is good. I just feel sorry for all the iPhone X customers that basically paid an outrageous price just to be beta testers of an immature product.
Wow, your logic is not correct. Think about it like this, the iPhone 5s, 64 gigabyte, when it was first announced was $849, for a smaller screen, and none of the iPhone X's features. You can now by an iPhone 8, brand new for $699, with that exact same 64 gigabite. Or a 8+ for 799, which is still cheeper than that exact amount 5 years ago with the 5S's initial pricing. So overtime, the price went down.
The iPhone X is currently $999, but next year, it is rumored to be only $899 for an upgraded version. And, the year after that, it might only be $849. It goes down overtime.
When the iPad first came out, it started at $499, and now you can by one for $329.
The first gen Apple TV was $299, while the second gen was only $99.
And lastly, in what way did the iPhone X flop? They were sold out for weeks, months actually. Its just in the middle of the product cycle, where demand goes way down.
 
think apple will learn their lession to not overprice it so much more than the comp. I pay it but doesn't mean i like it
 
Right. So hopefully Apple will just keep jacking up the full pricing by a few hundred each year for up to forever. A few hundred more only adds $5 more dollars per month to the monthly payment plan. Bring on the $1400 iPhone, and then the $1700, and then the $2K phone. At only $5 more per month, anyone can afford an iPhone at ANY price.

There are other iPhone's in the line up no one is forcing anyone to buy the iPhone X.
 
Too bad. It's still expensive. It should be $649 for iPhone X (LCD model), $799 for iPhone X (if OLED) or $749 for iPhone X(if LCD), $899 for iPhone X plus (OLED).

"Should be" based on...what? Is that just the price that you happen to be willing to pay, or are you basing these numbers off of something else? I think they're leaving money on the table at those prices, something Apple isn't known to do.
 
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We’re they planning on keeping the original X this fall? I was thinking might be even better on the pocket to get the original, which would put it in the $749-799 range, which is a more acceptable cost for a top of the line model, just a generation old

No, I believe the original X will be removed from the lineup. Obviously still available from private sellers.
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Wow, your logic is not correct. Think about it like this, the iPhone 5s, 64 gigabyte, when it was first announced was $849, for a smaller screen, and none of the iPhone X's features. You can now by an iPhone 8, brand new for $699, with that exact same 64 gigabite. Or a 8+ for 799, which is still cheeper than that exact amount 5 years ago with the 5S's initial pricing. So overtime, the price went down.
The iPhone X is currently $999, but next year, it is rumored to be only $899 for an upgraded version. And, the year after that, it might only be $849. It goes down overtime.
When the iPad first came out, it started at $499, and now you can by one for $329.
The first gen Apple TV was $299, while the second gen was only $99.
And lastly, in what way did the iPhone X flop? They were sold out for weeks, months actually. Its just in the middle of the product cycle, where demand goes way down.

Logic is refreshing.
 
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Once Apple brings it to the iOS platform, people are excited to have the feature

Actually many people have a sigh of relief that Apple brought it over. Apple in bringing features is usually 1 to 2 generations behind their competitors. For example, Qi charging and edge to edge borders.

For many of us, Android offerings aren't even on our radar.

And on the flip side, many of us are are just waiting to see how this game of cat & mouse plays out for if/when we jump ship.
 
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Honestly, I don't know why people who actually buy their phone -- not rent -- upgrade every year. The year-to-year changes are not that significant. I did have to do some mental gymnastics to justify spending $1200 on a phone but now that that is done I'm good for a couple years at least. If I sold my X this Oct maybe I'd get $600 for it. I can't think of any major add on feature in the 2018 model worth spending $400+ on.

That's easy--it's because they value the new phone and features more than they value the $400 (or whatever) it costs to upgrade. It's impossible to determine whether the cost of an upgrade is 'worth it' for someone else.
 
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There are other iPhone's in the line up no one is forcing anyone to buy the iPhone X.

Yes, but if you read my post- which was at least partially in jest- the poke was at the payment plan mentality, not a poke at Apple themselves. As such, what's it matter if there are other phones- just get the monthly payment low enough and charge whatever price for ANY iPhone model.
 
"...presumably only thecompany's top executives are privy to pricing plans.".

The top management of Apple are the last ones to know that info! Ming-Chi Kuo is keeping the prices to himself until the time is near and then leaking it to Tim by way of MacRumors! LOL!
 
Actually many people have a sigh of relief that Apple brought it over. Apple in bringing features is usually 1 to 2 generations behind their competitors. For example, Qi charging and edge to edge borders.



And on the flip side, many of us are are just waiting to see how this game of cat & mouse plays out for if/when we jump ship.

Yes, but those aren’t necessarily must have features. The benefits of the iOS platform far outweigh any features. I don’t know, I don’t feel like a ton of people consider switching from iOS to Android. Maybe a few on a tech site like this, but definitely not the majority. Just what I see of course, I could very well be wrong.
 
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That's certainly what I'm expecting. The plus becomes the new top of the range model and takes over the Xs price point, the new 5.8" 'XI' drops slightly towards becoming a mainstream handset.
 
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Yes, but if you read my post- which was at least partially in jest- the poke was at the payment plan mentality, not a poke at Apple themselves. As such, what's it matter if there are other phones- just get the monthly payment low enough and charge whatever price for ANY iPhone model.

Yea that would be fine if all iPhone's had the same features but they don't, the iPhone X has an OLED screen and Face ID both of which cost more to make than the LCD and Touch ID of previous iPhone's, the reason this years may be a little cheaper is probably due to the costs being lowered compared to last year. I get your point tho but my argument is that if someone doesn't like the cost of the iPhone X they can always get the iPhone 8, SE or even the 7 it's not like Apple are forcing people to buy the X.

Personally i don't like monthly plans i prefer to buy outright but the Apple upgrade program does exist for those that do want to pay monthly.
 
Yes, but those aren’t necessarily must have features. The benefits of the iOS platform far outweigh any features. I don’t know, I don’t feel like a ton of people consider switching from iOS to Android. Maybe a few on a tech site like this, but definitely not the majority. Just what I see of course, I could very well be wrong.

Most people unlike you or I do not see it as iOS vs Android. They see it as Phone A vs Phone B. When they ask what phone they should get, that's when company names come up. My mom who is tech illiterate uses an iPhone only because of popularity/brand. She does not think of it with features because frankly she doesn't know half of the things it can do.

Now for the tech side, many are irked by both platforms, and there are a lot that switch back and forth. You can see even on these forums that you have 3 crowds: irrational Apple lovers, irrational Apple haters, and the ones in the middle. It feels pretty even (33% in each group) in terms of voice.
 
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Apple must have realised that people are not willing to pay a four digit figure for a phone. Better later than never. Their arrogant strategy was punished by customers and the iPhone X basically flopped, which is good. I just feel sorry for all the iPhone X customers that basically paid an outrageous price just to be beta testers of an immature product.

Don’t feel sorry for me. The X is not an immature product and lots of folks feel that way.

Not everyone has some type of aversion to seeing the numbers 999.00.

When I see words like “arrogant strategy” that sounds like you have an issue with the price and well that is more of a personal problem as opposed to an Apple problem.

They offer many products at many price points and well there ya go.
 
So still no new iPhone for me. The external size of my SE is just right for me to put it into my pockets. A full screen would be nice and I wouldn't even mind the notch. I assume one day it may come, just not this year.
 
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My guess:(longshot)
Iphone 6.1 Lcd: $799 for 64gb, 899 for 256gb.
Iphone x 5.8 oled from $949(starting with 64gb), $1049 for 256gb.
Iphone x 6.4 oled: $1099(starting with 128gb), $1179 for 256gb.

I think they are going to do something with the storage options with the bigger iphone x to move you to a higher price class. That is why i think apple will offer 128gb as the lowest tier on the x plus vs the reg x at 64gb.
 
I don't understand this argument - what is the downside of having 8 (or 10) phones with prices ranging from $3000 to $1,200 if the phones all run smoothly and perform the tasks the user requires?

On a broader note, I'm likely to upgrade to a 256G phone this year. I need a dual camera, so it is probably going to be one of the new X models. Actually, an 8+ could be a good buy this fall at 256G even though I currently have one.

I know what you mean, but the argument we're seeing against 8-10 different iPhone models at drastically different price points is pretty easily explained--it's an emotional response to the possibility that Apple will offer better/more expensive models than the complainer can justify buying.

When I see these complaints I wonder why these people don't just buy the phone that fits their budget/needs, rather than demanding that there be fewer options and price points for those that are willing to pay more.
 
A lot of people just look to buy their flagship device each year. But if that gets priced higher and higher, people will have to choose with spending even more money for their flagship or stick with their devices and not upgrade. $999 is a mental barrier that many simply won't go past.

Personally I have an issue with anything over $500 for a phone. That's the price point where I begin to plan to keep the device longer vs trading in every two years. I just bought an 8 plus last year, my wife a 7 plus the year before. We're both planning on waiting 3 years before an upgrade and using the saved cash for our next cruise!
 
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Personally I have an issue with anything over $500 for a phone. That's the price point where I begin to plan to keep the device longer vs trading in every two years. I just bought an 8 plus last year, my wife a 7 plus the year before. We're both planning on waiting 3 years before an upgrade and using the saved cash for our next cruise!

The mistake is in seeing it as just a phone, these devices are no longer just phones in fact people spend more time doing other things than actually making phone calls or txting. These devices also have great cameras, great screens and so on they are more like mini computers than they are phone’s.
 
Most people unlike you or I do not see it as iOS vs Android. They see it as Phone A vs Phone B. When they ask what phone they should get, that's when company names come up. My mom who is tech illiterate uses an iPhone only because of popularity/brand. She does not think of it with features because frankly she doesn't know half of the things it can do.

Now for the tech side, many are irked by both platforms, and there are a lot that switch back and forth. You can see even on these forums that you have 3 crowds: irrational Apple lovers, irrational Apple haters, and the ones in the middle. It feels pretty even (33% in each group) in terms of voice.

You very well could be right. Makes sense.
 
The mistake is in seeing it as just a phone, these devices are no longer just phones in fact people spend more time doing other things than actually making phone calls or txting. These devices also have great cameras, great screens and so on they are more like mini computers than they are phone’s.
certainly the bigger model devices. For some it may make your tablet more replaceable.
 
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