Other This years screen lottery (17, 17 pro, 17 pro max and air)

[mattwestside]

Tossing in my use case as a data point; Both are 17 PMs at about 50% brightness, the silver (left) has a Samsung screen (G9N), the orange (right) has an LG (GH3) - couple observations:

-The Samsung panel holds onto the white color temp better, and does not introduce any tint or color shift at side-to-side or top-to-bottom angles. I watch a lot of videos and the LG's color shift is noticeable when moving the phone into and out of landscape.

-The LG panel has better uniformity when looking straight at the screen. The Samsung has a small amount of yellow-to-blue, or "warm" to "cool" color shift variance depending where I look on the panel. So reading website articles with a white background and black text is more pleasant to my eyes with the LG.

Additionally, after reading for an extended time, I find the LG panel to be "softer" to my eyes, in that I don't feel I suffer from PWM symptoms, but eye strain is a real thing and the Samsung panel seems to tire mine more than the LG.

Would I have noticed each panel's nuances if I didn't have them side by side? Probably not. Color shift on off-axis viewing with OLED has been around for a decade and a half and seems to be an accepted limitation of the technology for most consumers. Personally I wish mini-LEDs would advance faster than they have, but it sounds like that's still a ways off.

 

[rolan2q]

In my experience G9N is the best screen on iPhone. I’ve had G9P, GH and G9N was best.

 

[rolan2q]

Tossing in my use case as a data point; Both are 17 PMs at about 50% brightness, the silver (left) has a Samsung screen (G9N), the orange (right) has an LG (GH3) - couple observations:

-The Samsung panel holds onto the white color temp better, and does not introduce any tint or color shift at side-to-side or top-to-bottom angles. I watch a lot of videos and the LG's color shift is noticeable when moving the phone into and out of landscape.

-The LG panel has better uniformity when looking straight at the screen. The Samsung has a small amount of yellow-to-blue, or "warm" to "cool" color shift variance depending where I look on the panel. So reading website articles with a white background and black text is more pleasant to my eyes with the LG.

Additionally, after reading for an extended time, I find the LG panel to be "softer" to my eyes, in that I don't feel I suffer from PWM symptoms, but eye strain is a real thing and the Samsung panel seems to tire mine more than the LG.

Would I have noticed each panel's nuances if I didn't have them side by side? Probably not. Color shift on off-axis viewing with OLED has been around for a decade and a half and seems to be an accepted limitation of the technology for most consumers. Personally I wish mini-LEDs would advance faster than they have, but it sounds like that's still a ways off.

Good pics and analysis

 

[rolan2q]

Thx my latest Air is GVC and my 17 pro is G9N.

Is G9N the good one? I ask since my 17 Pro display looks pristine with G9N.

In my experience G9N is best followed by G9P, then all LG suck in comparison based on my experience

 

[G5isAlive]

I think this thread seems to show the opposite in this case. This year, with these models, there does seems to be a more obvious and pronounced variation from manufacturer to manufacturer rather than from any random screen to any other random screen. Clearly, we're seeing a predominance of green off-axis shift in LG panels, and not seeing that in the Samsung panels.

So people aren't hunting for some unicorn panel regardless of whether it's from LG or Samsung, they just want a Samsung panel because we're seeing those don't have the high incidence (ie. most) of green shift.

Every year we see the same thing. It’s all anecdotal…you talk about incidence with no real numbers, just confirmation bias. But okay, THIS is the year.

 

[NotApplicable]

Every year we see the same thing. It’s all anecdotal…you talk about incidence with no real numbers, just confirmation bias. But okay, THIS is the year.

Some people believe the first 3 characters are actually a grade assigned to the screen quality. Lol

 

[Lexicon44]

17 GVC to 17 G9P still have green tint (less noticeable than GVC) but Samsung still has it

You found the reverse unicorn? 🤣 The Samsung panel with green shift.

Would love to see photos of the two if you have them to see the difference.

 

[scrapdoo22]

Tossing in my use case as a data point; Both are 17 PMs at about 50% brightness, the silver (left) has a Samsung screen (G9N), the orange (right) has an LG (GH3) - couple observations:

-The Samsung panel holds onto the white color temp better, and does not introduce any tint or color shift at side-to-side or top-to-bottom angles. I watch a lot of videos and the LG's color shift is noticeable when moving the phone into and out of landscape.

-The LG panel has better uniformity when looking straight at the screen. The Samsung has a small amount of yellow-to-blue, or "warm" to "cool" color shift variance depending where I look on the panel. So reading website articles with a white background and black text is more pleasant to my eyes with the LG.

Additionally, after reading for an extended time, I find the LG panel to be "softer" to my eyes, in that I don't feel I suffer from PWM symptoms, but eye strain is a real thing and the Samsung panel seems to tire mine more than the LG.

Would I have noticed each panel's nuances if I didn't have them side by side? Probably not. Color shift on off-axis viewing with OLED has been around for a decade and a half and seems to be an accepted limitation of the technology for most consumers. Personally I wish mini-LEDs would advance faster than they have, but it sounds like that's still a ways off.

This is a very good example of the LG green shift that goofballs all over this thread want to act like doesn’t exist. Guys you don’t need to rag on people trying to get the better screen because you don’t care about the difference.

Some people don’t mind the green shift and go about their day just fine with an inferior screen and guess what? That’s the majority of customers. Let the 2 percent whine and share opinions on the matter without gaslighting on what they do and don’t see.

 

[Lexicon44]

This is a very good example of the LG green shift that goofballs all over this thread want to act like doesn’t exist.

In the second photo, the LG is farther away from the camera, meaning the camera is seeing the panel at an angle greater away from vertical than for the closer phone. This probably exaggerates the colour / brightness shift relative to the Samsung next to it.

Would be better to keep the camera centered between both phones and grab a photo with the camera tilted away from the bottom and away from the top of both. Like a flyover approaching from the bottom and from the top.

 

[iLuddite]

Dang now my G9P 17 Pro Max (256 GB, Silver) is starting to look awfully greenish...

Unfortunate since my G9N 16 Pro Max (256 GB, White Titanium) was basically perfect to my eyes.

I think I’ll give it a few days and see if I can adjust, but compared to the lovely display on my 14” M4 MacBook Pro it really does look quite green.

 

[iLuddite]

A scary thought just occurred to me…the foldable’s display lottery 😩 Gonna be apocalyptic

 

[SumYoungGai]

Dang now my G9P 17 Pro Max (256 GB, Silver) is starting to look awfully greenish...

Unfortunate since my G9N 16 Pro Max (256 GB, White Titanium) was basically perfect to my eyes.

I think I’ll give it a few days and see if I can adjust, but compared to the lovely display on my 14” M4 MacBook Pro it really does look quite green.

Try turning True Tone off on your iPhone

 

[indezah]

A scary thought just occurred to me…the foldable’s display lottery 😩 Gonna be apocalyptic

iPhone Fold's crease-free folding screen to be made by Samsung Display

Its solution will ensure stable mass production of the device. Once again, a new rumor claims Apple's first foldable iPhone will use a crease-free folding...

www.gsmarena.com

Don't worry, LG can't make a consistent OLEDs. Samsung OLEDs from 4-5 years ago outperform these new LG panels. What makes you think they'll have the expertise for folds?

 

[Nik73]

I played the panel warranty with the air and I did not win. My fiance, myself, and my second device all have GVC screens. And while I didn’t get a Samsung panel, I will say I am absolutely shocked at the variance between all these GVCs.

One of them has significantly better viewing angles, with the green tint being barely noticeable. The other two had tolerable green tints but it was definitely not as good as the latest. Which is interesting is the India-made one feels better made and has the better screen…interesting…

Yes I have OCD, and yes these variances bothers me. lo
Edit: Photos aren’t doing justice, there is actually a massive visible difference between all these but they all kind of appear bad in the photos.

The middle photo is a good representation of what my 17PM looks like at normal viewing angles.
I think it’s a shame that this has gone the way it has, with the usual opposite extremes going back and forth. My two cents is that I think no screen is perfect, some are obviously worse than others. I honestly think it’s a personal thing and some people notice it more. Saying that, it doesn’t mean those that do are obsessively looking for it! Some people’s vision just see these kind of things.

Someone mentioned a similar issue with LG OLED TVs. Back in 2017, I bought my first OLED TV, an LG C something. One of the curved screen ones. As soon as I turned it on, I noticed the right 25% of the screen had a pink tint. I tried three replacements and all had the pink tint on either side. A friend had the same TV and sure enough his had it. On both sides!! The thing is, he couldn’t see it. I didn’t want to draw his attention to it, so didn’t say exactly what it was, but he just couldn’t see the tint.
I went and viewed literally dozens of OLED TVs and I could see it the pink tint on every single one, no matter who made it. Friends with me, and even staff, saw it differently. I really think it’s a personal thing. I wish I was one that didn’t see it.
I eventually ended up getting the top of the range Sony at the time (A1E) and even that had the pink tint! When I looked at new TVs last year, I think it’s pretty much accepted that it’s an issue with OLED panels. Again, I saw pink tint on every single TV I looked at. The pricier QD panels don’t have the issue, so went with another Sony (A95L) and the uniformity is excellent. Not a hint of pink.

Please bear with the people that do see it.

 

[indezah]

The middle photo is a good representation of what my 17PM looks like at normal viewing angles.
I think it’s a shame that this has gone the way it has, with the usual opposite extremes going back and forth. My two cents is that I think no screen is perfect, some are obviously worse than others. I honestly think it’s a personal thing and some people notice it more. Saying that, it doesn’t mean those that do are obsessively looking for it! Some people’s vision just see these kind of things.

Someone mentioned a similar issue with LG OLED TVs. Back in 2017, I bought my first OLED TV, an LG C something. One of the curved screen ones. As soon as I turned it on, I noticed the right 25% of the screen had a pink tint. I tried three replacements and all had the pink tint on either side. A friend had the same TV and sure enough his had it. On both sides!! The thing is, he couldn’t see it. I didn’t want to draw his attention to it, so didn’t say exactly what it was, but he just couldn’t see the tint.
I went and viewed literally dozens of OLED TVs and I could see it the pink tint on every single one, no matter who made it. Friends with me, and even staff, saw it differently. I really think it’s a personal thing. I wish I was one that didn’t see it.
I eventually ended up getting the top of the range Sony at the time (A1E) and even that had the pink tint! When I looked at new TVs last year, I think it’s pretty much accepted that it’s an issue with OLED panels. Again, I saw pink tint on every single TV I looked at. The pricier QD panels don’t have the issue, so went with another Sony (A95L) and the uniformity is excellent. Not a hint of pink.

Please bear with the people that do see it.

Fun fact: Samsung makes the display panel for the Sony A95L while LG made the panels for mid-tier models. Make of it what you will

 

[neXgo]

Got today my Base 256GB in Thailand with G9Q Panel. No tinting and looks good. The only thing is next to my old 14P with G9N Panel it looks definitely warmer. I would also not say that it's noticeable brighter, but maybe this this seems to be like that because of the warmer color.

Anyone else similar experience?