From the GVC’s I’ve observed on Apple’s website some them have horrible white uniformity from straight on.
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Other This years screen lottery (17, 17 pro, 17 pro max and air)
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I spent more time comparing my 16PM GH3 and 17PM GVC. The GH3 is brighter at max brightness, doesn’t look dingy, and doesn’t have green color shift when tilted. I’ll be returning the 17PM and trying the lotto.
Completely random, just pick the color and storage you want and cross your fingers that you get a good display.
yeah I think that's fair, if going up a generation you'd expect at least parity in screen quality.
To be perfectly honest I don't really care who makes the screen. I care that there seems to be inconsistency that I personally haven't noticed before on previous iPhones - maybe I've been lucky. From all of the screen shots I have seen, the LG seem to shift a lot more with a tilt, and certainly my GH3 Pro Max with barely a tilt got super green.
Every single iphone at the local store had some color shift, quite a bit actually, but the Pro Max are by far the worse. My particular ProMax, was worse than most in the store. I even pointed it out to the Apple employee.
I decided to try the Air for a couple weeks, its screen has a color shift as well but not nearly as pronounced. It does seem more grainy than the ProMax without the tilt.
I think some of the screens are going to be on the extreme side and really bother people no mater which particular manf. they get. Again, I just don't remember having an iPhone where I've ever noticed, and I noticed this immediately on my 17 pro max.
If screens exist on any of the models, WHY would I not want to have a phone that has a screen that doesn't have this issue?
Every single iphone at the local store had some color shift, quite a bit actually, but the Pro Max are by far the worse. My particular ProMax, was worse than most in the store. I even pointed it out to the Apple employee.
I decided to try the Air for a couple weeks, its screen has a color shift as well but not nearly as pronounced. It does seem more grainy than the ProMax without the tilt.
I think some of the screens are going to be on the extreme side and really bother people no mater which particular manf. they get. Again, I just don't remember having an iPhone where I've ever noticed, and I noticed this immediately on my 17 pro max.
If screens exist on any of the models, WHY would I not want to have a phone that has a screen that doesn't have this issue?
Yep I saw same thing at the store. All the Pros looked good, minimal or no color shift like my GH3, didn’t matter to me if it was LG or Samsung. Vast majority of Air and PM had green shift (I found one PM with no shift), and some shift worse than others, as in shift happens at steeper angles or isnt as dark of a green. Mine was among the worst offenders.
My original GH3 screen is indeed better, will likely return the GVC next week. Any screen issues show themselves in low brightness / dim environments. The GVC screen is a bit uneven left to right and is noticeable in regular use. Also overall a bit red tinted grays compared to the neutral gray on the GH3 screen. The GH3 screen has a bit more off-axis vertical shift but uniformity is near perfect and color tone is just better.
I never use the color filter options in the phone settings because even though you can adjust, it throws off the color profile overall and is just a filter. I can't believe iPhones don't have proper color adjustments and white balance options like Samsung phones do.
Interesting you mentioned the red tinted grays, I've noticed all Samsung panels I've had before were slightly red tinted and shifted slightly magenta off axis. Seems like red shift is less noticeable than green shift.
I got G9N on a 17 Pro 256GB Deep Blue.
I got my 17 Pro Max yesterday and noticed an uneven tint straight away at normal viewing angles. The upper part is a lot darker and tilting the phone back a couple of mm moves the dark patch down.
I’m really sensitive to this kind of thing, but am of the opinion that no screen is perfect and they all have some tinting of some description. My 15PM is terrible green and pink at extreme angles, but you never see it in normal use and it’s never been an issue for me.
Unfortunately, the 17 PM is really noticeable in normal use on any light background, so it’s going back and I’ll stick with my 15 PM. Really can’t be bothered getting on the exchange roundabout. Shame ☹️.
I’m really sensitive to this kind of thing, but am of the opinion that no screen is perfect and they all have some tinting of some description. My 15PM is terrible green and pink at extreme angles, but you never see it in normal use and it’s never been an issue for me.
Unfortunately, the 17 PM is really noticeable in normal use on any light background, so it’s going back and I’ll stick with my 15 PM. Really can’t be bothered getting on the exchange roundabout. Shame ☹️.
It’s not excessive but overall the hue is more red than my GH3. I don’t mind some typical blue/green off axis shift; historically speaking screens of mine that have had blue shift tended to be better than screens with pink or yellow shift. Crazy that this is still a thing in 2025.
I compared an iPhone 13 with a Samsung G9Q to my 17 PM with LG GVC, the LG panel blows it out of the water in terms of every meaningful measure of display quality.
The uniformity, sharpness, clarity, contrast, color depth/quality, black levels, literally everything about the LG panel is better. Compared both in a dark room and the Samsung even has dimming around the edges of the display when viewed straight on with low brightness, which is actually a glaring and noticeable defect in normal daily use. Instead of an off-axis shift to green, the Samsung panel shifts to blue when tilted, maybe a bit less pronounced than the green but it's still not perfect white when tilted... and why should it be again? Because "the phone is expensive?"
Who cares if you paid over $1000 for the phone? You are paying for a phone with an OLED screen, which is always going to have inherent issues with weird viewing angles like every other OLED display. Just because you "paid a lot of money" for the phone doesn't mean Apple or its display manufacturers can magically change the properties of OLED to make it look good from weird, unnatural angles.
The whole "LG green tint" is basically a nothing burger, it doesn't impact the way I actually use the phone.
The notion that LG panels are all inferior to Samsung because they have off-axis color shifting is total nonsense. You are probably in a very small minority of OLED phone owners if you have absolutely no off-axis tint of any color. To expect a completely perfect white OLED screen from any kind of angle, regardless of whether that's even a normal or useful way to hold your phone, that's just being extremely nitpicky and borderline OCD.
The uniformity, sharpness, clarity, contrast, color depth/quality, black levels, literally everything about the LG panel is better. Compared both in a dark room and the Samsung even has dimming around the edges of the display when viewed straight on with low brightness, which is actually a glaring and noticeable defect in normal daily use. Instead of an off-axis shift to green, the Samsung panel shifts to blue when tilted, maybe a bit less pronounced than the green but it's still not perfect white when tilted... and why should it be again? Because "the phone is expensive?"
Who cares if you paid over $1000 for the phone? You are paying for a phone with an OLED screen, which is always going to have inherent issues with weird viewing angles like every other OLED display. Just because you "paid a lot of money" for the phone doesn't mean Apple or its display manufacturers can magically change the properties of OLED to make it look good from weird, unnatural angles.
The whole "LG green tint" is basically a nothing burger, it doesn't impact the way I actually use the phone.
The notion that LG panels are all inferior to Samsung because they have off-axis color shifting is total nonsense. You are probably in a very small minority of OLED phone owners if you have absolutely no off-axis tint of any color. To expect a completely perfect white OLED screen from any kind of angle, regardless of whether that's even a normal or useful way to hold your phone, that's just being extremely nitpicky and borderline OCD.
Haha you have no clue. Do you know how many hours are on that iPhone 13? Not just that but an OLED panel from 2021? Just go the Apple Store and take a look at the difference between G9N and GVC iPhones and the difference is stark.
You are comparing the tech that’s 4 years apart, it’s irrelevant. I also had a 13PM with a G9N and now I have a 17PM with a G9P, so both are Samsung displays. The 17PM is brighter, more even and doesn’t have an extreme off-axis shift like the 13PM does. These panels have progressed in quality in the past 4 years.
The phone was bought in 2024 as a spare device so really not many hours at all. But regardless, you are one of the clear examples of someone who exchanged the phone a bunch of times or felt like they had to buy a specific model just to get higher odds of a Samsung panel.. and you'd probably defend the idea that they're all better than LG panels to no end just because they're made by Samsung. Weird.
No one even notices this stuff unless it's pointed out to them and they're made explicitly aware of the panel manufacturer.
I agree. And have an LG OLED TV that is degrading on the top area pretty bad, and it’s not even that old.
It’s unrealistic to expect Apple to source the displays from a single source and all displays have its quirks sadly.
Yeah, but for $1199 it’s not acceptable that some phones have great looking, high-quality Samsung panels and some have inconsistent LG panels with really noticeable green tint off-axis - for the same price! If Apple wants to have two different suppliers with vastly different qualities levels, they should at least provide the consumer the option to pay extra for the better display (“iPhone 17 Pro Max - Premium Edition” for 1299$).
I’m just curious how many here were around the launch of the X. That was some crazy stuff with those screens: the very first batches were all with the Intel modem and those screen panels were terrible! They all had very pronounced pink/red tint at an angle. It looked all pink when completely flat on a table. Don’t even get me started what those screens looked like at minimum brightness in a dark room - very grainy and with terrible, uneven grays. Then a month later they pushed a fully unlocked Qualcomm version and those phones had much better screens. I lucked out and managed to exchange my horrible phone for that better version arguing that the Intel modem had inferior reception (it was true). The store manager was nice enough to make an exception outside my 14-day exchange window. I remember I tried maybe 4-5 phones from that first batch and they all were really bad. At least, now all these screens don’t exhibit such egregious defects.
Nope. Haven’t ever exchanged an iPhone actually and been using them since the 4S.
The sole reason I didn’t purchase an Air this year was because the moment I picked it up I started noticing this green off axis color shift that was very pronounced. You can’t say no one because I did almost immediately upon going hands on with the device.