Other This years screen lottery (17, 17 pro, 17 pro max and air)

[Sorig]

My 17PM 256GB came with a G9N panel. No complaints. Uniform and no tinting at any angle.

That said, my 13PM had a “bluer” panel which I think I preferred.

 

[tom2517]

I am not sure. In some cases its pretty bad in my opinion too. In some cases its beyond tech OCD.

Maybe most people accept whatever apple gives them with trust.

Maybe most people don't care? What you don't know won't hurt you as much since you don't know what you're missing?

Maybe Apple has a huge propaganda machine working over time - I doubt it.

Maybe the industry has accepted some of the trade offs for OLED? Considering that some panels are objectively better and not just preference, I'm inclined to believe most people don't know what they are missing between a uniform screen, and something that's less consistent with color and viewing angles?

Most people don’t care, who looks at their screen off axis looking for tint or uniformity? Every year I buy two new iPhones, I always compare the screen and give the worse one to my wife. And she always look at me as if I got too much time on my hands, like “they look the same”.

I don’t do this, but I have also know some will run CPU test, if the score is lower than average, they will return it and get a new one, and won’t stop until their chip test score is in the 90%+ tile.

 

[Evodo]

All this is very very worrying. What's gone wrong with Apple's QA? All these phones are expensive.

Do people here think Apple will fix this? I'm planning to buy a 17ProMax as a Christmas present for my wife (currently has a 14ProMax), but am now having second thoughts. Obviously I would give her the sealed box so would have no idea whether I'm giving her a crap-display phone!

I don’t think so because for the vast majority of people there’s really nothing to fix. A bunch of friends and family have been trying my new 17 Pro and not one have them mentioned anything about the display. After they’ve been using the phone for a bit, I would sometimes ask if they thought the display looks good and they would invariably say yes.

The issues definitely exist, and I definitely see them when looking, I can’t see apple changing much here.

 

[usmaak]

When I first unpackaged the 17 Pro with G9N screen that I now have, I thought that it was just a bit uneven in brightness but as I use it more, I'm finding that it is more than a bit uneven. It is especially apparent on lighter colored screens and web pages. I am not sure what to do. The LG screen I had on my now returned 17 Pro Max had a green tint without much of a tilt but it was even and a bit cooler (which I like).

I have one more coming on Wednesday. I had ordered one and the delivery date was 10/15 - 10/20. Then I checked the other day and they were available at the local store so I picked one up there. I haven't canceled the order yet and I am wondering if I should let it be delivered and have a look at it to see if it is better. And it not coming until 10/15 - 10/20 means that I'll have some time to see if the flaws in this one fade into the background of my mind.

The problem is that potentially leave me with two phones to be returned and I don't want Apple to be pissed at me and try to make me keep them.

 

[Soundbytes]

Sharing my experience here because I didn’t know that this was a thing until a couple days ago. Bought a 17PM 256 and noticed the green tint when I would tilt the phone forward to reach the top of the screen one-handed. Straight on everything looks fine. My previous 15 pro would not do this, so I did the internet sleuthing which led me here.

I did the steps to find that I have a GH3 panel. I’ve since been able to compare the phone with two other phones of the same model. Both were GVC panels. The first I compared it to made it seem like mine didn’t even have a tint. It would turn the entire phone significantly more green at a much less forgiving angle than mine. The second I was able to try looked mostly the same as mine at a slight tilt, but further forward and mine would even out more, while the GVC panel had a stronger green tint more focused to the bottom 1/3. All felt relatively uniform and had consistent brightness with each other when held straight.

So by my own anecdotal evidence, I am much happier with my GH3 panel than I would have been with either of the GVCs.

 

[thadoggfather]

Sharing my experience here because I didn’t know that this was a thing until a couple days ago. Bought a 17PM 256 and noticed the green tint when I would tilt the phone forward to reach the top of the screen one-handed. Straight on everything looks fine. My previous 15 pro would not do this, so I did the internet sleuthing which led me here.

I did the steps to find that I have a GH3 panel. I’ve since been able to compare the phone with two other phones of the same model. Both were GVC panels. The first I compared it to made it seem like mine didn’t even have a tint. It would turn the entire phone significantly more green at a much less forgiving angle than mine. The second I was able to try looked mostly the same as mine at a slight tilt, but further forward and mine would even out more, while the GVC panel had a stronger green tint more focused to the bottom 1/3. All felt relatively uniform and had consistent brightness with each other when held straight.

So by my own anecdotal evidence, I am much happier with my GH3 panel than I would have been with either of the GVCs.

Interesting another pro max gh3 success story relative to gvc

Seems to be more a trend this go round

 

[KarimLeVallois]

Also seems the G9Q panels are better than the G9N ones.

 

[Mick_ag]

First G9N was very pink along one side. The replacement is a G9N and it’s yellow/warm.

Returned from an Apple Store. Out of four G9N/G9Q Pros I examined, all of them had some degree of pink tint, making them significantly less uniform compared to the Air/PM GVCs.

 

[KarimLeVallois]

Returned from an Apple Store. Out of four G9N/G9Q Pros I examined, all of them had some degree of pink tint, making them significantly less uniform compared to the Air/PM GVCs.

Weird, I've seen 3 G9Qs first hand in natural lighting and all were uniform with no pink tinting at all. They alll looked identical.

 

[NotApplicable]

Weird, I've seen 3 G9Qs first hand in natural lighting and all were uniform with no pink tinting at all. They alll looked identical.

I think it’s time to admit that the panel lottery is on an individual basis this year. Anecdotal reports do not support the previous years’ mythology of certain manufacturing lines producing higher quality displays than others. The number of people reporting dissatisfaction with every prefix seems to be similar in this thread, except for J5V because it has such low distribution in this group.

It’s also more apparent than ever before that interpretation of performance is highly subjective, as expected given the “measurements” are all taken by eye with no tooling, from small sample sizes in different usage environments.

 

[KarimLeVallois]

I think it’s time to admit that the panel lottery is on an individual basis this year. Anecdotal reports do not support the previous years’ mythology of certain manufacturing lines producing higher quality displays than others. The number of people reporting dissatisfaction with every prefix seems to be similar in this thread, except for J5V because it has such low distribution in this group.

It’s also more apparent than ever before that interpretation of performance is highly subjective, as expected given the “measurements” are all taken by eye with no tooling, from small sample sizes in different usage environments.

Yeah, it seems that there is no lottery 'best' this year, just find one you are happy with!

 

[KarimLeVallois]

Then return it anyway to see if there's one you will be even happier with.... lol

 

[developeren]

How can I check the severity of mine? I have a GVC panel, blue base model bought in Netherlands. The green is definitely detectable especially in dark areas but that's all I know. I don't know if it's worth to play the online reseller lottery especially I will have to wait for another 2 weeks since there is no stock.

 

[Mick_ag]

How can I check the severity of mine? I have a GVC panel, blue base model bought in Netherlands. The green is definitely detectable especially in dark areas but that's all I know. I don't know if it's worth to play the online reseller lottery especially I will have to wait for another 2 weeks since there is no stock.

Green in dark areas? I’ll say that’s not normal, even for a GVC.

 

[Mick_ag]

I think it’s time to admit that the panel lottery is on an individual basis this year. Anecdotal reports do not support the previous years’ mythology of certain manufacturing lines producing higher quality displays than others. The number of people reporting dissatisfaction with every prefix seems to be similar in this thread, except for J5V because it has such low distribution in this group.

It’s also more apparent than ever before that interpretation of performance is highly subjective, as expected given the “measurements” are all taken by eye with no tooling, from small sample sizes in different usage environments.

Wise words.

 

[jimmy_uk]

Standard 17 256GB Black in UK, it has a GVC display and shifts to green in the lower half when tilting towards me. Tilting away has a very slight green/blue shift (or could be screen getting darker). Straight on looks uniform with the usual warm OLED whites. Compared to the G9N 17 Pro I returned - that had a pinker cast from memory.

I'm finding I have to run the brightness higher than the Pro at around 50% for a comfortable level.

I much prefer the weight and feel of the 17 over the Pro. Negatives: Second camera module stops the phone sitting flush on Belkin wireless charger stand. Speaker vibration can be felt through rear glass.

 

[jimmy_uk]

When I first unpackaged the 17 Pro with G9N screen that I now have, I thought that it was just a bit uneven in brightness but as I use it more, I'm finding that it is more than a bit uneven. It is especially apparent on lighter colored screens and web pages. I am not sure what to do. The LG screen I had on my now returned 17 Pro Max had a green tint without much of a tilt but it was even and a bit cooler (which I like).

I have one more coming on Wednesday. I had ordered one and the delivery date was 10/15 - 10/20. Then I checked the other day and they were available at the local store so I picked one up there. I haven't canceled the order yet and I am wondering if I should let it be delivered and have a look at it to see if it is better. And it not coming until 10/15 - 10/20 means that I'll have some time to see if the flaws in this one fade into the background of my mind.

The problem is that potentially leave me with two phones to be returned and I don't want Apple to be pissed at me and try to make me keep them.

Apple stores really don't care about returns (and they just record "Change of mind", so don't care about user complaints data). Go with your gut, these phones ain't cheap and you should be happy.

 

[ohlordygvc]

Tried the iPhone 17 PM 256GB orange again in Australia after they came in stock in store. The manager told me they got less than 10 today. Turned it on, no green tint when tilting. Screen is G9P. After 4 returns over 3 weeks, finally got a phone without the green tint!

 

[mteluk]

How is that screen? My wife has it on a base 17 white 256gb and it’s great. Very uniform with no noticeable tinting.

Pristine in all the tests (off-axis, bright white etc) I’ve done on it. Everyone says G9Ns were the best but I’ve not seen any of the warm issues on G9Qs

 

[Mick_ag]

Tried the iPhone 17 PM 256GB orange again in Australia after they came in stock in store. The manager told me they got less than 10 today. Turned it on, no green tint when tilting. Screen is G9P. After 4 returns over 3 weeks, finally got a phone without the green tint!

Here we go again.

 

[Harthag]

Tried the iPhone 17 PM 256GB orange again in Australia after they came in stock in store. The manager told me they got less than 10 today. Turned it on, no green tint when tilting. Screen is G9P. After 4 returns over 3 weeks, finally got a phone without the green tint!

Another one with user name that checks out 😂

 

[Corncab44]

It's funny — I only care about PWM. The 17 Pro, a Samsung, started giving me issues after a few weeks. Returned for a 17 Pro Max. The screen is so much worse looking than the 17 Pro. It's very obviously green at normal viewing angles. It looks kind of washed out the way cheaper androids do. I'm really surprised. I thought you all were crazy lol. I assumed iphone screens always at least looked good, even if they gave me headaches.

 

[Love-hate 🍏 relationship]

I think the most surprising thing is that it sounds like iPhone 17 regular model pretty commonly got bad displays this go round.

That's a shame, maybe they are binning them this go round?

this might explain it , if most of them are BOE

 

[Love-hate 🍏 relationship]

My air has red tinting on the bottom half of the display, far worse at low brightness levels. I also noticed that when the phone is hot from blasting the CPU that the screen non-uniformity gets way worse! When hot the entire top half of the phone (coming from from the plateau) gets a much brighter blue glow until the phone cools down. I’ve never seen this behavior before in an iPhone.

What panel ? Did you check?

 

[Love-hate 🍏 relationship]

When I first unpackaged the 17 Pro with G9N screen that I now have, I thought that it was just a bit uneven in brightness but as I use it more, I'm finding that it is more than a bit uneven. It is especially apparent on lighter colored screens and web pages. I am not sure what to do. The LG screen I had on my now returned 17 Pro Max had a green tint without much of a tilt but it was even and a bit cooler (which I like).

I have one more coming on Wednesday. I had ordered one and the delivery date was 10/15 - 10/20. Then I checked the other day and they were available at the local store so I picked one up there. I haven't canceled the order yet and I am wondering if I should let it be delivered and have a look at it to see if it is better. And it not coming until 10/15 - 10/20 means that I'll have some time to see if the flaws in this one fade into the background of my mind.

The problem is that potentially leave me with two phones to be returned and I don't want Apple to be pissed at me and try to make me keep them.

Same . It's annoying to fear being flagged while we're just annoyed by the bad QC and the gymnastics they make us do