I had an air with Samsung panel, a bit pink, but even hue, acceptable compared to the awful green half screen shift phones. I returned quickly because it felt like such a massive downgrade feature wise.
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Other This years screen lottery (17, 17 pro, 17 pro max and air)
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Can confirm that the 17 Pro I just picked up has an absolutely GORGEOUS display. And I have no desire to find out which panel it is, because I don't need subconscious doubt taking over lol.
Yeah, thanks for confirming. I am of course aware Samsung-panel Airs exist, just haven’t seen one with my own eyes. Which also means I’m at the mercy of other people’s judgments of things like “a bit pink”. But I can’t imagine that bothering me more than the lurid green at a 20° angle off the perpendicular.
Interestingly, Apple’s online return process didn’t want to know why I was returning the phones.
I suppose that is so that Apple doesn’t have the ethical quandary of re-selling (as a refurb or warranty replacement I guess) a phone that a customer described as problematic. Instead they can pretend it’s perfect (which mine were of course in terms of meeting Apple’s quality standards. It’s just I can’t believe Apple accepts this level of off-axis quality drop).
Amazon, on the other hand, wanted a reason. So I told them. Maybe it will get back to Apple’s ears in a statistical sense and put a little pressure on them to improve their game for the 18 generation.
I suppose that is so that Apple doesn’t have the ethical quandary of re-selling (as a refurb or warranty replacement I guess) a phone that a customer described as problematic. Instead they can pretend it’s perfect (which mine were of course in terms of meeting Apple’s quality standards. It’s just I can’t believe Apple accepts this level of off-axis quality drop).
Amazon, on the other hand, wanted a reason. So I told them. Maybe it will get back to Apple’s ears in a statistical sense and put a little pressure on them to improve their game for the 18 generation.
I didn’t want to start a new thread about the issue (I think) I’m experiencing, so I’m sharing it here instead.
I have an iPhone 17 Pro Max with a G9N panel, and I swear this screen is playing tricks on me. Throughout the day, the color temperature seems pretty balanced. But as the day goes on and evening approaches, the screen appears to get noticeably warmer in white balance.
Both True Tone and Night Shift are turned off. Am I taking crazy pills?!
I have an iPhone 17 Pro Max with a G9N panel, and I swear this screen is playing tricks on me. Throughout the day, the color temperature seems pretty balanced. But as the day goes on and evening approaches, the screen appears to get noticeably warmer in white balance.
Both True Tone and Night Shift are turned off. Am I taking crazy pills?!
The way it should be 👍🏼
For my own interest, as a percentage, how often do you look at your screen at a 20° angle off the perpendicular per day?
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Man, just when I thought I was out, they pull me back in.
When a Samsung panel has color shift, it’s that the white point shifts slightly meaning the panel becomes somewhat cooler, blah, blah, blah. When a LG panel has it, it’s lurid, terrible, awful.
When a Samsung panel has pink tint, it’s a characteristic, not a flaw. When a GVC is perfectly white and uniform when not tilted, is still rubbish.
When a Samsung panel is uneven, it’s not a big deal. When a LG panel is uneven, it’s because LG panels are shi**y.
I have counted in this very thread no less than fourteen users reporting pink tint and poor uniformity on their Samsung Panels. Lots of pictures too. Yet, the song remains the same.
Some deny the evidence of the common flaws in Samsung panels while being relentless, even virulent, toward LG ones. That doesn’t just show a personal opinion, it suggests something else I can’t quite grasp.
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Why does this stuff even concern you then? If you are happy with your LG panel, why are you venting here? lol
Got my silver 256 17 PM and wasn’t even aware of the lottery until I started searching why my phone was tinting a different color at different angles and hurting my eyes. It was that bad on the GH3 panel I got and the battery manufacture date was September so it was pretty recent too. I haven’t played a screen lottery since the pixel 2xl from way back, so I was quite disappointed that it was this noticeable on a premium iPhone. Luckily, I just did 1 return/exchange for a the same silver 256 17 PM and got a G9N panel with an August manufacturing date that is very noticeably better. I only went for it after seeing that pretty much most of the panels at the Apple Store were better than mine.
Lol I mean, I dont know about the graininess but I had some iPhones with red tints just like that before.
Often and for long durations.
I already explained earlier, but I wear contact lenses for myopia. At night I don’t, which means I need to hold the screen closer to my face than people with normal vision. When I do that, there is unavoidably a wide range of viewing angles from top to bottom of the display, so I get an extreme colour shift across the display even while holding it still and at the best angle (that is, there is no good angle for BOTH the top and bottom of the screen at the same time).
Also, with today’s huge phones I do the little juggle that everyone does when they need to touch the top of the display one-handed. Having the screen flash traffic-light green during that manoeuvre is distracting and annoying. Why should it do that when ALL my previous iPhones did not?
I’m not saying anyone else should care about this. I’m just saying it doesn’t work for me.
Four, not seven. I will give up and switch to the 17 Pro before trying seven phones.
I don’t know why you’re on a religious crusade about this while somehow pretending it’s the rest of us who are, but to be clear:
- the Samsung pink (if it’s indeed Samsung) that I’ve seen is IN NO WAY COMPARABLE to the glaring green of the LGs (if that’s what they are). It’s irrelevant nerdishness. Same for minuscule variations in evenness across the display at a 90° angle
- if the supposed Samsungs are any worse than the supposed LGs for evenness at a 90° angle, I certainly haven’t noticed it in the Apple Store. They’re all nicely even for my standards. None of them are EIZOs, and no-one expects them to be or cares. This concern too is irrelevant nerdishness
- my 13 mini has an awesome display, actually better than ALL the current iPhone for off-axis quality – in all practical ways. But it reports as GVC. I don’t care what the label says or who makes the display. I care what it looks like off-axis, which is where the major differences in quality lie
- if you prefer the green-shifting screens for some theoretical advantage on-axis that they may have, lucky you! Apparently most iPhones have them this year. Enjoy.
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yes absolute 100% uniform when looking straight on it. just checked it with a web app which tests uniformity of the screen. Only off-axis it is not uniform anymore.
Checked also the two 16PM G9N panels of my kids, looking straight on them they are 100% uniform too and additionally they are also completely uniform when off-axis. These two G9N panels are much better than the GVC I got.
happens 4 times a day to me... yes its annoying. I am trying to hold it right since to avoid that green color flash. I feel like my 17PM GVC screen punishes me for every wrong move with a distracting flash of color that goes straight to my brain. It's messing with my behavior.
They are all different. My G9N 17PM had bad red tint at the bottom 25% of the screen.