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Thoughts after switching from Samsung Note 7
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I will have to look into it but there is no software app that can tell you meaningful information on the health of your battery. It requires someone hooking the battery up to piece of equipment to measure it.
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Exactly, supposedly the problem has nothing to do with quick charge. It is a physical problem with the batteries themselves.
ok, what the heck are you doing here? if you don't like iphone/apple that much, why wasting time here? should you hang out in some android forum? or you just want to troll?
Exactly the PROBLEM!!! Apple would never halt the sales of a device no matter how defective unless they are forced to. They won't even admit a problem unless the problem is so well documented they have no choice but to admit it let alone halt sales.
Wow you just don't get this simple point.
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Dude, go back and re-read what I wrote since you don't get it. All phones have their pros and cons, the iPhone does too. My point to you is that you can't admit when an Android has pros. The flagship Androids win the spec wars. Of course that isn't all there is to a phone and the user experience.
However, there are some hardware features that really do enhance a user's experience, like fast charging, and there is no arguing otherwise. Could fast charging negatively impact the longevity of the device? Sure but so can iOS updates. The last iOS update for the iP4 rendered it a laggy mess.
What I object to is when there is a clear hardware advantage on an Android phone, iPhone users like yourself will downplay it as if it isn't a real advantage but then when Apple finally gets around to implementing it into an iPhone all of a sudden the Apple fan boyz start jumping up and down peeing themselves shouting to the rooftop about how great this "new" feature is.
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It's not all of us I assure you. I personally think fast charging is an excellent thing to have. It's why I use my iPad Pro USB-C charger to charge my iPhone, much quicker. So long as it's implementation is carefully considered and the appropriate battery safety and monitoring circuitry is up to scratch to maintain battery health and lifespan, I'm definitely all for it.
It's possible, as much as some people refuse to believe it, to charge batteries at a ridiculous rate these days. Shockingly research and development of the batteries and associated technology didn't stop in the 90's when they were released, it's still happening. (Yes I'm perfectly well aware that the batteries we currently use in our devices have a history dating back to the 70's. Much like myself
)AMOLED I do like, but I'm in no rush for it. I think the screen quality of the iPhones is stunningly good, so I'm not particularly bothered if they keep using it. Obviously I won't complain if and when Apple do introduce AMOLED screens, so long as they do it right.
For the record though, the Note7 battery problems don't have anything to do with fast charge. And plenty of phones with fast charge don't have any issues.
The Note7 has battery issues but those have to do with the design of the battery itself, not the fast charge. The Note7's that were sold in China have fast charge but a different battery and they are fine.
two things:
first, what spec war? apple don't even mention RAM in the spec. do you mean android spec war?
fact - one-year old iphone 6s beats Note 7 app-loading test even though Note has 4GB of RAM.
second, android spec war is the reason why Samsung rushed out Note 7
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so fast charging is not part of battery design? does this make any sense?
here is video of Note 7 burning in Taiwan, not China but close.
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Losing a signal isn't a big deal?
The point of a phone is to make and take calls.
When it was first reported Apple told us we were holding it wrong. Then reluctantly admitted to it and offered bumpers.
People like you give iPhone users a bad rep.
RE: fast charging, I suspect it is coming soon. Apple essentially did a trial run with the 29W iPad Pro 12.9" charging... I don't think any mobile device charges that fast currently, although it's a bit of a stretch to think of the 12.9" iPad Pro as mobile.
Now think about it. Imagine an iPhone charging at 29W. QC 3.0 tops out at 18W. You're talking 60% faster.
It takes around 2 hours to charge the iPad 12.9" 38.5Wh battery @ 29W
The iPhone 7+ has a 11.1Wh battery. That means 0-100% in slightly over half an hour.....
Now think about it. Imagine an iPhone charging at 29W. QC 3.0 tops out at 18W. You're talking 60% faster.
It takes around 2 hours to charge the iPad 12.9" 38.5Wh battery @ 29W
The iPhone 7+ has a 11.1Wh battery. That means 0-100% in slightly over half an hour.....
Do you realize how many phones have fast charging?
And you seem know more about Samsung's phones then the people who manufactured it without having one?
and you asked if someone elses point made sense?
I never said they didn't I was just making a general comment on the state of fast charging technology. It's a great thing but there are many, many components involved to make it reliable, safe and to preserve the useful life of the battery itself.
As I mentioned, I use a higher rated power supply in order to cut my iPhone charging time in half. It's not 3 seconds for 40 weeks of use**, but it is still most definitely fast charging, just slower fast charging
I have no doubt that the actual electronics of the Samsung devices are fine. From what I've read on the subject of the Note 7 battery, it is as you say, the battery itself which is at fault not the hardware designed by Samsung. This is something where the blame should realistically fall on the shoulders of the battery manufacturer and I'll be honest, off the top of my head I don't know who that is.
But as it's a component of the Samsung device, certainly they should be responsible for the safety verification of all parts of their device, however they have simply fallen fowl of an unfortunate mistake. And as the Manufacturer they are naturally going to be getting the blame as far as the worlds media (and ranters on forums*) are concerned. It's a very serious issue and not one that should be thrown about lightly.
As someone mentioned earlier there were all sorts of accusations thrown at Apple for the supposed "antenna gate" which ultimately turned out to be mostly related to software, yet the media went wild over it. That was not a serious issue, not even in the same ballpark as the exploding battery situation. In fact the iPhone 4 series was extremely popular and sold extremely well for Apple for over 4 years.
And bla, blah, blah, that's it, I'm going for coffee
*Yeah, me too
** Massive exaggeration
Yeah I would definitely agree fast charging in iPhones would be appreciated sooner rather than later, and it's been around for some time - the exploding Note 7 debacle is a separate issue.
Still, the iPhone's current 12W charging abilities are pretty good, although it's annoying that none of the accompanying chargers in the box are capable of these speeds.
29W charging would be amazing though. Charging is a curve of course. If it charged at 29W all the way, the iPhone 7+ would charge 0-100% in 22 minutes.
However, the curve is quite likely linear from say, 0-80%. An Plus phone charging from 0-50% in 11 minutes, (80% in 18 minutes) would be phenomenal.
Still, the iPhone's current 12W charging abilities are pretty good, although it's annoying that none of the accompanying chargers in the box are capable of these speeds.
29W charging would be amazing though. Charging is a curve of course. If it charged at 29W all the way, the iPhone 7+ would charge 0-100% in 22 minutes.
However, the curve is quite likely linear from say, 0-80%. An Plus phone charging from 0-50% in 11 minutes, (80% in 18 minutes) would be phenomenal.
I too switched from the Note 7 back to an iPhone. I didn't like the recall process in the first place. $25? Maybe if I made minimum wage my wasted time of having to return it wouldn't be more valuable.
Android appeals to the techie in me more
but iPhone appeals to the perfectionist in me. What the iPhone does do it does mostly well.
Android is still behind with still using SMS and also podcast integration.
besides what the OP said, the Always On Display was great.
Android appeals to the techie in me more
but iPhone appeals to the perfectionist in me. What the iPhone does do it does mostly well.
Android is still behind with still using SMS and also podcast integration.
besides what the OP said, the Always On Display was great.
where did I said "losing signal is not a big deal?" I said it did not affect my usage (since I put my phone in a case all the time)
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yes, there are but how aggressively fast is different for each phone design. I don't know what is the root cause of Note 7 issue. but we know that they were rushing out with new features aggressively to win "spec war".
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I think most of Apple's "slowness" is actually a reflection of how much Apple has influenced the smartphone industry in general.
Before Apple, smartphones were nowhere nearly as popular. However, as Apple introduced successively more popular iPhones, the competition began to look very carefully at what Apple was doing, and to try to pre-empt Apple at every step.
Ever higher DPI displays (iPhone 4 retina), faster fingerprint recognition (iPhone 5S), retina scanning, ultrasound fingerprint scanners, better cameras, better personal assistants, Sapphire displays, better industrial design, smartwatches etc. etc.
If you follow the news carefully, competitors hang onto every Apple rumors and try to one-up Apple these days. There are a few exceptions, such as larger-screened phones, stylus (Note), OLED displays, waterproofing etc. but these are often things that Apple was working on (are still working on for OLED) before they were launched by competitors - but by and large Apple is a victim of its own innovation roadmap.
They have good ideas, but they like to take their time to do it. Even at the cost of letting competitors upstage them.
Of course, Apple does fail even when they think they are ready. Software wise, and even service wise, I think Apple has quite a bit to catch up (Siri, WatchOS 1, Apple Music and of course Apple Maps). But generally, Apple likes to take their time to do things.
Fast and wireless charging are definitely on Apple's roadmap, but they'll look like they're following because competitors now launch them before Apple does. This is Apple's choice not to play the "I'm first" game - and in some cases, this is better. In particular, the Note 7....
Before Apple, smartphones were nowhere nearly as popular. However, as Apple introduced successively more popular iPhones, the competition began to look very carefully at what Apple was doing, and to try to pre-empt Apple at every step.
Ever higher DPI displays (iPhone 4 retina), faster fingerprint recognition (iPhone 5S), retina scanning, ultrasound fingerprint scanners, better cameras, better personal assistants, Sapphire displays, better industrial design, smartwatches etc. etc.
If you follow the news carefully, competitors hang onto every Apple rumors and try to one-up Apple these days. There are a few exceptions, such as larger-screened phones, stylus (Note), OLED displays, waterproofing etc. but these are often things that Apple was working on (are still working on for OLED) before they were launched by competitors - but by and large Apple is a victim of its own innovation roadmap.
They have good ideas, but they like to take their time to do it. Even at the cost of letting competitors upstage them.
Of course, Apple does fail even when they think they are ready. Software wise, and even service wise, I think Apple has quite a bit to catch up (Siri, WatchOS 1, Apple Music and of course Apple Maps). But generally, Apple likes to take their time to do things.
Fast and wireless charging are definitely on Apple's roadmap, but they'll look like they're following because competitors now launch them before Apple does. This is Apple's choice not to play the "I'm first" game - and in some cases, this is better. In particular, the Note 7....
I can't say better. that is why I like iphone and apple. Apple wont release new features out until they get it right, close to perfect. even if they are behind. of course there is exception and mistake.
Samsung wants to be the first with new tech, and their phone spec on paper beats everyone. but actual usage/experience is another story.
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The biggest thing that happen IMO is Apple made paying a lot for a phone the norm. Before people turned up their noses at it.
Before a smartphone like a Nokia, Treo or Windows mobile phone weren't the norm. The average person had a flip phone.
Blackberry, for their time, Blackberries were good phones than just did a lot of what you wanted well. They were just slow to advance their technology and were dependent on everyone wanting one for texting and e-mail. They weren't ready for a multimedia society and people actually wanting a mini laptop in their phone.
When in video mode, you can tap and hold (or is it 3D touch now?) on the screen for AE lock, and slide up and down to lock exposure. It's minor control probably compared to Samsung. You can use the camera flash as notification LED in Accessibility settings. If you phone is on the table faced up, you'll still see lights blinking. But definitely not the same as Samsung's.
Your right, Apple are not always first and they definitely like to take their time. But there's very sound reasoning behind it.
Rather than shove in some new technologies as soon as they are available just because they are new and possibly exciting. Apple instead takes its time, develops and tests the technology to ridiculous lengths and at extraordinary expense in order to make sure that when they do introduce it, it is refined, simple to use and of genuine benefit to their customers.
It's why, for the most part, Apple products do "Just work". The hardware and software exists in perfect harmony and genuinely, in my own experience at least, makes your life easier and less complicated. That's what I like about Apple products. It is literally the reason I became an Apple customer after so many years of using other companies hardware and software.
**This sales pitch was brought to you today by the letter P, the number 7 and one helluva lot of morphine
Your right, Apple are not always first and they definitely like to take their time. But there's very sound reasoning behind it.
Rather than shove in some new technologies as soon as they are available just because they are new and possibly exciting. Apple instead takes its time, develops and tests the technology to ridiculous lengths and at extraordinary expense in order to make sure that when they do introduce it, it is refined, simple to use and of genuine benefit to their customers.
It's why, for the most part, Apple products do "Just work". The hardware and software exists in perfect harmony and genuinely, in my own experience at least, makes your life easier and less complicated. That's what I like about Apple products. It is literally the reason I became an Apple customer after so many years of using other companies hardware and software.
**This sales pitch was brought to you today by the letter P, the number 7 and one helluva lot of morphine
Tell that to the lagging 6 Plus at introduction, and still underpowered today due to limited ram. But they had to come out with the bigger screen or they'd lose market. But yes, in general Apple does it right or doesn't do it at all. Which is my motto for life, and why I love Apple.
Well, yes and no. I remember paying about £500/£600 something like that, maybe even more for the original Motorola Razr when it came out and that was what? more than 10 years ago anyway. I had a string of Nokia phones that cost several hundred pounds as well. And a series of Nokia/Sony/Palm smartphones that cost stupid money as well, the prices were high when you bought them off contract.
No doubt Apple raised the game price wise, but it was headed in that direction anyway.
It's far from perfect I agree. But it' still very useable, I'm still using my 6+ just now until my 7+ arrives and honestly, it does everything I ask of it, I just have to wait a couple of seconds now and again. Mostly on Safari refreshes, but they happen so quickly I can live with the occasional second of reloading here and there for now.
Umm you can't compare an Apple issue to this Samsung issue. Apple hasn't had an issue that endangers peoples lives like Samsung is having right now. So no recall was ever needed from Apple.
Samsung SDI, a wholly owned subsidiary of Samsung.
http://www.samsungsdi.com/
The Chinese Note7's used a battery made by a Chinese manufacturer and they are fine. Ironic I know.
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So it is perfectly fine to use the iPad charger to charge an iPhone?