Creating the app model without a file system was / is Apples way to lock in customers. A brilliant triumph for Apple, not the best experience for the customer.
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Thoughts after switching from Samsung Note 7
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The whole bending thing is brought up again? how desperate do you have to be in order to make an Apple product as bad as an exploding battery? jesus. It was a news headline for a month, get over it.
Absolutely 100% fine, safe and much quicker. Apple have designed the iPhone to take advantage of the higher current available from these chargers. They're just too tight fisted to include them in the box
There's specific circuitry in both the iPhone and all Apple manufactured power supplies that communicate with each other to ensure that the device, whatever it's plugged into will only use the safe maximum current it was designed for. This is to take advantage of faster charging where available, but most importantly, to protect the device and prolong the life of the battery.
This also exists in some third party equipment, but only that which legitimately carries the MFI certification. Be very cautious of cheap no-name brands of chargers as these do not include the required safety circuits and are in general a bad idea for both the devices and for safety.
Essentially you want a 12W charger. The iPhone 6S/7 is quite capable of safely charging at that speed (I can't remember if the 6 charges at that speed).
Unfortunately only the iPad Pro 12.9" ships with a 12W charger, and ironically that is barely adequate for the 12.9" iPad Pro.
Ah, you know I honestly didn't realise that the batteries were also manufactured by Samsung.
Though I believe that these subsidiary companies operate completely separately from their parent, Samsung, so it's very much like purchasing the batteries from any third party manufacturer. If I'm right in my thinking that is
Yes that is how it works with Samsung - each division works as its own company and they have to compete with outside vendors for the business of other Samsung divisions supposedly without favoritism.
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I got my mom an iPad Pro 12.9" and I noticed that it does take a while to charge.
Yeah it's pretty ridiculous with the 12.9" Pro. I know it's an extra expense but the 29W USB-C charger and cable are so worth the money. The charging is much, much quicker. One of the best buys I've made for my iPad Pro. I highly recommend it.
I'm sorry here but the whole bending thing isn't really a design flaw. Most of those phones were bent due to negligence and pants that were way too tight. It still took a decent amount of force to bend one. It's not like they were made of aluminum foil. Apple shouldn't have had to recall phones based on that. A bent phone still worked... it didn't catch fire or endanger anyone's life. It's just not in the same league as bursting into flames because of poor internal design. It was mostly handled after the switch to a better alloy.
Also, the spec war is completely irrelevant when Android phones are still slower. They need all the additional power to even be in the same league as iOS in terms of performance and they are STILL behind. Not just a little on paper... noticeably slower. That is a serious issue with the operating system and proof that, regardless of what a lot of companies want you to believe, it's not about specs on paper. When you are throwing an 8 core processor and 32 gigs of ram at a phone with a 4k display(that's the low end Android phones now isn't it?) and it still runs like garbage... There's a serious issue. The end user isn't going to care that the Android is "technically" superior. They care that iOS is faster.
I do like some Android phones and some Android features. I just can't justify buying one when they just don't feel as fast as they should to me. I would rather have a lower resolution that the hardware can actually efficiently support. OLED doesn't even matter much to me. I'm sure it will be nice when it comes but until then it doesn't bother me much that I don't have it. Fast charging is mostly irrelevant as well. I never really have to charge it and when I do I am typically at a desk I can just plug it in and not have to worry. I would like to see some Android features come over to iOS, but not at the cost of performance.
I never use the included charger. It's always at least an iPad charger or some third party charger. And so I have no issues with charging speed for the iPhone.
I'm a [H]ard core Android Nexus fan, but the Galaxy Note and Touchwiz does lag, Samsung just needs to destroy Touhwiz and start over. They make great hardware, but their UI blows.
I went to T-Mobile to window shop new phones, and the Samsung rep there was a super cool let me play with his Note 7, as well as the T-Mobile rep also had a personal Note 7 he let play with. I had 5 minutes with each Note 7 phone, and here are my honest first impressions;
- Design was amazing, just a work of art, beautiful phone.
- The Edge screen was awesome looking, really cool.
- Display itself was super bright, but also very rich colors
- Shape and feel in hand was very comfortable, and was a very small device for a 5.7" screen, significantly smaller than my 6P
- Water resistant a great idea.
- There was lag, was pretty choppy at points on both phones. I'm used to my Nexus 6P being butter smooth, warp speed fast 100% all the time every time, never ever a hint of lag ever. These Note 7's had a little bit of chop going through the menu, or pulling down the notification shade, it would lag for 1/4 a sec, or opening and closing the app drawer several times i would see a tiny hint of lag for a split second, that never occurs on my 6P. This all due to Touchwiz, which just vomits all over stock Android.
So overall the Note 7 is a fantastic piece of hardware, but TW still blows and lags a little. I think a Note 7 GPE phone would be the best device ever. Note 7 hardware running stock Android 7.1 would be a nerds wet dream. But the Note 7 as is with Touchwiz, no thank you.
I can see why people chose the iPhone 7 Plus, yeah it may be boring as ****, but it's smooth, and doesn't seem to lag, and does have great battery life. But it's such a plain lame phone though.
I went to T-Mobile to window shop new phones, and the Samsung rep there was a super cool let me play with his Note 7, as well as the T-Mobile rep also had a personal Note 7 he let play with. I had 5 minutes with each Note 7 phone, and here are my honest first impressions;
- Design was amazing, just a work of art, beautiful phone.
- The Edge screen was awesome looking, really cool.
- Display itself was super bright, but also very rich colors
- Shape and feel in hand was very comfortable, and was a very small device for a 5.7" screen, significantly smaller than my 6P
- Water resistant a great idea.
- There was lag, was pretty choppy at points on both phones. I'm used to my Nexus 6P being butter smooth, warp speed fast 100% all the time every time, never ever a hint of lag ever. These Note 7's had a little bit of chop going through the menu, or pulling down the notification shade, it would lag for 1/4 a sec, or opening and closing the app drawer several times i would see a tiny hint of lag for a split second, that never occurs on my 6P. This all due to Touchwiz, which just vomits all over stock Android.
So overall the Note 7 is a fantastic piece of hardware, but TW still blows and lags a little. I think a Note 7 GPE phone would be the best device ever. Note 7 hardware running stock Android 7.1 would be a nerds wet dream. But the Note 7 as is with Touchwiz, no thank you.
I can see why people chose the iPhone 7 Plus, yeah it may be boring as ****, but it's smooth, and doesn't seem to lag, and does have great battery life. But it's such a plain lame phone though.
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And yet the vast majority of customers are perfectly happy. And those who might want or need something different can go with what suits them better. Choices, they are an interesting concept.
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When hasn't it been?
how does it lock in customers? if you don't like it, don't buy it. if it is not best experience, then don't buy it.
I made the switch from the NOTE series last year and got the 6s+ and yes I agree with the smooth app switching and fast responses in the OS. my Samsung always would start to freeze after about 8 months and slow down. Have had my 6s+ for about 8 months now and it works just like it did when i got it.
Good switch. Will plan on getting the 7+ next spring
Good switch. Will plan on getting the 7+ next spring
Why so sensitive... It's simply Apples way of doing things. Look how well it's worked for them. Taking advantage of millions of followers that would rather have someone else make decisions for them, Apple reaps the rewards.
your last post made no sense. and you still can't explain how apple locks in their customers without file system. you said it is not best user experience without file system. yet apple is able to lock in their customers. your arguments are contradict each other.
"Taking advantage of millions of followers..." you are talking like it is a religion. it is just a damn phone. if you don't like it, don't buy it.
and apple is a company that should exist to do charity?
I just hope you realize Apple is not unique. If you think other phone manufacturers have developed their model for the customers benefit and not there bottom line it just means you have bought into their advertising.
Thing is there's always going to be people who complain no matter what Apple do. Now I'm not for a second suggesting things wouldn't be simpler with even a slightly more open file system. But nothings really impossible, just a bit less convenient at times.
I'm a very heavy iOS user, both in my personal life and in my position as an app developer. I need to move things around between apps and devices and even different platforms. But, perhaps unusually, I'm not inclined to whinge about it.
Two things are readily available which solve almost all of my issues. Certainly to the point where I don't find myself so limited that I can't achieve the workload I want to do on, for instance my iPad Pro.
I use cloud storage for some things, which obviously makes the files available to anything anywhere. For situations where I may need access or to move things around and there's the possibility of no access to cloud storage, I use a Kingston Mobilelite wireless. That's a brilliant and very versatile little box that I'm very glad I purchased.
So, yeah, not everything is super simple in some ways. But crucially, the majority of people don't seem to care. iOS has been around for a while now and you don't get to a billion devices if it's fundamentally crippled and useless. People just wouldn't buy it if they cared that much. And that's why it's handy Android is there, for those people for whom iOS just isn't suited.
Right, now it's ice-cream time
As in doing what their typical customer base wants? A company appealing to its common user base, that's just crazy talk and makes no sense at all. No company would ever want to do a thing like that. Why so sensitive about smart business practices only as they relate to Apple?
Like Apple Maps?
you selectively excluded some of my post. I also said "there were exception and mistakes".
I'm floored by the battery usage. I only have a 6s plus but am fairly sure I couldn't get 20 hours of screen on with 25% battery to spare even if I was running nothing and just had the screen lock set to never.
Does this represent actual screen on time? Usage goes up even if your screen isn't on. Music is a great example of how to rack up the hours without the screen being on; not implying that's what was done here.
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Does this represent actual screen on time? Usage goes up even if your screen isn't on. Music is a great example of how to rack up the hours without the screen being on; not implying that's what was done here.
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I'd personally add Siri to this. It's been far behind almost out the gate IMO. Every year I tell myself "maybe this year". Nope...Like Apple Maps?