Ditto! I've been using Mac's since I was in grade school in 1989: I recall a small classroom full of Classic Mac's, and later on having a 'Pro' Apple computer connected to an external Laserdisc unit. I or my immediate family have owned: 5 Apple desktops, 1 PDA (Newton), 8 MacBooks / MBP's / Air, 7 iPods, 2 iPads, and 4 iPhones and I can't for the life of me understand WTF the company is now doing....!!!!!
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Thunderbolt 3 Ports on Right Side of 13-Inch MacBook Pro Have Reduced PCI Express Bandwidth
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Ditto! I've been using Mac's since I was in grade school in 1989: I recall a small classroom full of Classic Mac's, and later on having a 'Pro' Apple computer connected to an external Laserdisc unit. I or my immediate family have owned: 5 Apple desktops, 1 PDA (Newton), 8 MacBooks / MBP's / Air, 7 iPods, 2 iPads, and 4 iPhones and I can't for the life of me understand WTF the company is now doing....!!!!!
I loved the logo too. It made the laptop stand out and uniquely pleasant.
"If "the little things add up to create a great user experience", Apple's new direction continues to overlook "the little things that add up"."
The little things that add up? Why are you only tallying (what you consider to be) the negatives?
Shouldn't you also be giving weight to the positives, in your presumably fair assessment?
Perhaps you are not aware good product design is about managing engineering tradeoffs. And finding the right balance of features, performance, and price that will satisfy the majority of your customer base.
There are always tradeoffs. I have yet to find a perfect tech product anywhere.
If Apple isn't meeting your unique needs, why not simply purchase a competitive 13" laptop that does; with four TB 3 ports, 32 GB RAM, breakaway power connector, etc, etc. They're out there, right?
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BUT they are buying the moniker 'pro' expecting it to be thus. You can't just slap something and call it 'pro' and not make it so, the facade will only last so long.
BUT they are buying the moniker 'pro' expecting it to be thus. You can't just slap something and call it 'pro' and not make it so, the facade will only last so long.
And which category do you fit into, the "stupids", the "non stupids", the "professionals", the "non professionals"?
Other issues nonwithstanding with this release, this is likely due to limitations with the chipset and the number of PCIe lanes. If so, then it has nothing to do with Apple; it is an Intel thing.
Because it could not be done as there is no "right chip" for the 13" model. Up above you're railing on inconsistencies. Two TB 3 ports on the 13", and four on the 15". Perfect.
What's wrong with that? It's a choice customers can make.
Or, simply not release the 13" to satisfy your personal need for no inconsistencies on TB ports.
Better for the customer, right?
Which is why it was a very bad decision being last with Skylake. They should have been first with Kabylake.
Yep, that's the point. However, a lot of USB-C chargers and cables don't adhere to the standards.
That got really clear early this year when a Google engineer called Benson Leung started testing whether cables and chargers on Amazon actually were compliant with USB-C. The majority wasn't, as far as I can remember.
I think it's best to stick to brands, but even then you're not exempt:
http://lifehacker.com/some-anker-usb-c-cables-are-getting-recalled-for-a-hard-1785887067
One side can do it, the other side can't. It's the stupidest thing I've heard this week in tech news.
Are we supposed to take you more seriously because you write bigger than everyone else and are all colordy?
So what's wrong with just having two TB 3 ports on the 13" model? That solves your need for zero TB 3 inconsistencies.
Really, this is only an issue if you move around a lot. I assume most people go to their workplace and hook up their laptop to an external monitor. So if they replace the monitor its mini-DisplayPort cable, then they're done.
The user experience is still there, but it is an experience that is getting poorer and poorer with each product release.
People should voice their concerns, hoping that Apple might sit up and take notice—as it has done in the past.
If everyone accepts what Apple puts out without question, Apple will go the same way as VHS, MySpace, Blackberry, 35mm film, etc, etc, etc.
The offering today is increasingly muddled and compromised and inconsistent. That might be good enough for you and for some people, just as some people still walk around today with old Nokia and Blackberry phones, but it isn't good enough for the people who can see all the flaws and the cheapness and the rip-off pricing.
Apple can afford to lose some of its geek customers, but it can't afford to lose many of them, because the dissatisfied geeks here on MacRumors and other forums are the people who shape the buying decisions of the people that surround them. I can point to thousands of sales in the last ten years that have come from my recommendation of Apple products to friends, family, and clients I have advised. If I cut away the clients, my influence has still impacted on hundreds of sales for Apple, and if I withdraw that support for Apple, the people around me will follow my lead when they next change their computers, phones, and tablets.
And I am not alone. A lot people you speak to on here are people who carry purchasing influence for their friends and families.
Ditching the headphone jack on one device but then using it in the next is inconsistent, expensive, and frustrating for users.
Dissing the function keys and then launching a new MBP with function keys just a few minutes later is utter madness—showing how disjointed Apple’s thinking is.
The issues over RAM specs, RAM limits, battery life, missing power cables, incompatible devices, the need for dongles, etc, etc, etc are further evidence of a company that no longer knows what it is doing and no longer cares to provide the best user experience it can.
Yes, some people—like you—are happy with what Apple is churning out. And some people are very unhappy at seeing a once-great company come out with half-baked over-priced products that offer a half-hearted and underwhelming user experience. If half-hearted and underwhelming are good enough for you, that's great—for you.
Sure, Apple might have moved on. Perhaps it doesn't want the geeks any longer. Perhaps it thinks fashion and celebrities can keep it afloat. Time will tell. But I think the writing on the wall is pretty clear: Apple is haemorrhaging support. The evangelist geeks made Apple what it is today. I really don't think it can afford to lose them, so I’m thrilled to see people posting their frustrations and ideas out in public. The people who take action are the people who change the world. The people who accept things blindly are the ones who waste their lives on mediocrity.
If you think everything is perfect, that's good for you. Don't be upset by other people who have greater dreams, higher expectations, and the determination not to be cheated in life.
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You think "most people" use their Mac with a docking station? I seriously doubt that.
So it's not a pro device because maybe sometime in the future something might need 3x the bandwidth we use now?
There's nothing on the horizon that needs close 40gbps. Nothing. One port can power and drive all peripherals as is, and there's 2 full powered ones on the 13". Also, what other 13" laptop that has more than 2 full bandwidth TB3 ports? There aren't any. That's why this argument is stupid.
It's probably due to the available PCIe lanes on the CPU in the 13". Nothing Apple could do about it, though it would be nice if they published tech specs that included available lanes for each TB3 port.
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Get over yourself. Apple is stumbling surely but when Tim Cook finally gets the sack there'll be new enthusiasm and they'll be back.
If they think at these prices its value for money....yeah most are stupid
and that includes apple. You cannot judge a persons intelligence by their ability to use a a computer. Most people who i know that have a phd, are hopeless with computers.
Apple's designers operate on profit first. You have worked this out.....? The current range is based on calculated obsolescence and tiers to get more money out of you, its about making $$ and not giving the customer what they need. If apple cared about the customer and not profit, we would not have to buy all these bloody dongles to get each task done....and guess where the biggest profit is....these dongles
If it stumbles much more, it will fall. And by the time Tim is replaced, the world will have moved on.
Sure, it has massive reserves, but that doesn't mean it can force people to buy its products (as we have seen recently with the Apple Watch being dumped by a high-end department store in Paris due to poor sales).
I love Apple enough to want to try to save it from losing customers. It lost marketshare before and almost collapsed. It's heading down the same route again now, as the falling sales announced on Tuesday made clear enough.
How so? It offers full TB3 capabilities on 2 ports and full USB 3.1 Gen 2 support on all 4 ports, as well as charging. Most people don't need 4 devices running Thunderbolt 3 on full tilt.
I agree, especially since Thunderbolt devices can be daisy chained.