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Thunderbolt 3/USB-C Adapters, Cables, and Hubs for New MacBook Pro
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Geeze - you can get two USB C to USB 3 adapters (no wire) for $7.99 on amazon, and they are well reviewed including by people using them on MacBooks. I'll spring for 4 in case I lose one. Big whoop. My non iPhone camera connects by usb, so I don't really need anything else. Why would anyone charge their iPhone on a computer? I never do, but I will able to do that as well with these adapters. I can leave the adapters plugged in to two of the ports all the time and have no problems sticking the MBP in a backpack. If I ever need to hook up to a projector again, I'll buy another one of those 'dongles' (which I had to do for my current MPB as well). I don't see any of this as a big deal. The total cost is going to be a bigger issue for many; it's likely I could do better on price in 6 months, but I have been waiting a while for a new MBP - might as well get up to speed on the better uses of the touch bar instead of waiting to save a $ couple hundred. Mine comes this month.
Shhhh...don't try to use reason. People just love complaining and whining and thinking everything revolves around them.
No, You are obviously a grown man, so crying on the Internet is not Your thing...
Don't you realize that your line of thinking is exactly the same?
"I don't need those ports so those other people must all be whiners"
Get over yourself. People have certain needs and they are completely within their rights to criticize Apple.
Love the look of the Arc Hub. It will even power the MacBook Pro 15" supporting up to 90w. My concerns are that it only supports USB 3.0 and that the HDMI and Display Port cannot be used simultaneously. That said, nice looking device.
We are going to see a lot of new TB 3 / USB-C options over the next little while. Definitely reminds me of what happened when the original iMac was released.
Well, you do realize that all your criticism and complaiing doesn't change ANYTHING, right? So you have two options:
1) continue whining over a fact you have zero influence over whatsoever, or
2) get a grip of yourself and adapt
Again, it's REALLY not as big of a deal as people make it seem. Mountains and mole hills...
Holy smokes! Another contributor just mentioned you can get two well-reviewed adapters for $8 on Amazon.
Yet people will still moan...
This is a sad way to live life. Of course criticism and complaining changes things; that's why we have larger screens on our iPhones, why Apple gave away free bumpers with the iPhone 4, why Apple has programs for replacing batteries and broken home buttons, why Apple decided to make the headphone jack flush again after the iPhone 2G.
You need to stop trying to tell others what to do. These forums don't belong to you. If you're going to consistently be mad that others keep criticizing Apple, you can always find somewhere else (read: an echo chamber) to post.
I'm just bitter about dongles because I lost my iphone 7 dongle the first day I used it.
Well...you are aware that there are MANY options besides Apple out there, aren't you?
Maybe YOU need a more positive attitude towards live
don't panic. even C64 requires a SD card adapter ;-)
Not if you want to continue using macOS, unfortunately.Well...you are aware that there are MANY options besides Apple out there, aren't you?
Maybe YOU need a more positive attitude towards live
Maybe you need to live and let live.
iMacs and Minis that were released in tandem with the rMBPs kept Ethernet. You know why? Because machines that sit at a desk make a lot of sense to have Ethernet. I'll be unpleasantly surprised if the next revisions of the desktop machines lack Ethernet (except maybe the Mini if they do with an even smaller version or something).
In the last three offices I've worked out, the laptop users have all been on WiFi except for me. For the MINORITY that need Ethernet, use an adapter. Or better yet, use a docking solution of some kind.
Here's my office setup:
I like Ethernet because I regularly have to move some big files across the network. The monitor is an LG with Thunderbolt. You know what's awesome? I want Ethernet and, as the joke goes, there's a dongle for that only because Thunderbolt is very flexible, I put that dongle on the monitor (could have been another monitor, a full blown dock, Firewire or whatever *I* need and not what the manufacturer decided I needed) and have, more or less, the equivalent of a dock.
I have the OWC dock at home for similar reasons and connect to a lot more devices at home, including a FireWire 800 drive.
Laptops move. They just do. Modern laptops can go a full workday without even being plugged in. You are not tethered to a desk. That is the point.
If you're at a desk a lot some kind of docking setup (call it what you want, it's a dongle in some form or another) makes a lot of sense. Sitting down and plugging in 5 different cables? Okay. Sorry that person now has to get a single adapter for the desk. Life is really, really, really hard in the first world.
I would totally get a lot of this dongle rage if we were talking about a desktop machine. We're not. We're talking about machines meant to be operated PRIMARILY in one of two ways:
1. Solo.
2. Using some sort of docking solution at a dedicated workspace.
Operating outside of those parameters (like the rare occasion Ethernet is my only option which is... basically... never these days) requires adaptation.
Luckily for me right now I only have USB 3.0 devices. And by the time I replace those I'll just get TB3/USB-C peripherals. I'm not sure I'll be getting a new MBP, but if I do this seems like a good option. Stinks no MDP and HDMI at the same time though...
Dead by cable! That volume you saved in the MBP? You loss all of them with the dongles. Real pros use ports, not dongles.
I realize it hasn't been released yet but I don't doubt it's not far off. As for price, that was not part of the equation.
Over and over in this thread I've seen the complaint about a dock that will supply 85w of pass thru power. Well there it is.
If it's too expensive then the complaint needs reframing to include 85w passthru under x amount of dollars.
I'm not quite sure what the verge quote is for or about. Cable management is always a PITA.
But for those "needing" true 85w passthru in a dock with a wide variety of legacy ports. That's the first one I've seen. Buy it or don't. Maybe it's not in the budget. Maybe it is. Either way it exists. Problem solved
And this folks is how Apple is going to go from red to black. They saw their sales decline on iPads, iPhones, and MacBooks(Pro). If they can't sell through mass volumes to make profit, they nearly inflate the prices of the new stuff and make their products so you have to buy extensions/adapters. Sell at a lower volume, with higher price to make up for the lost revenue.
It's like the price of current video games. In the past it was $60 for Final Fantasy VI or Chrono Trigger, but games today are masked at a price of $60 with the DLC that range from $40-$50 on average. It was designed that way. In essence making the game cost about $80-$90 without the consumer knowing so.
Price gouging at it's finest, same goes with Starbucks Coffee, Cellphone carrier rates, and so forth. I know someone will say "if you don't like the prices, don't buy it." That's not my point. Just stating my opinion.
It's like the price of current video games. In the past it was $60 for Final Fantasy VI or Chrono Trigger, but games today are masked at a price of $60 with the DLC that range from $40-$50 on average. It was designed that way. In essence making the game cost about $80-$90 without the consumer knowing so.
Price gouging at it's finest, same goes with Starbucks Coffee, Cellphone carrier rates, and so forth. I know someone will say "if you don't like the prices, don't buy it." That's not my point. Just stating my opinion.
No... Real "pros" use their tools (such as a laptop) to make money, and produce professional results for the people they work for.
Nobody gives two trucks about whether adapters were used (or not) to get those results.
So many dongles... what do those pictures remind me of?
That's right....
Funny how things change.
Now compare all of those connections coming out of the sides of the laptop vs. just one dongle with an octopus hanging off. It's actually cleaner.
But can you name one negative about leaving one old USB port in or leaving the MagSafe in? They make these machines. It would be easy to leave one old USB port. These decisions just make things more difficult. Apple has an obsession with thinness now that trumps all else. 90% of iPhone users use a case and bulk their phones up anyway(I don't) I stopped caring how thick my phone was when I used to carry an iPod and mobile and the original iPhone came out. I think the majority would be okay with a slightly thicker iphone with bigger battery and headphone jack (until wireless charging) and a slightly thicker MacBook with an old USB port to make the transition easy. I can't see why anyone would waste money on lighting headphones that you can only use with one product. Plugging dongles in is not easier than plugging in directly. Apple is heading in the wrong direction and sales will only decline from here as the product line up begins not to even be compatible with their own products. The company is just miles behind ATM. Can't use wired headphones with both iPhone and MacBook and can't hook your phone to the MacBook either. So you need a dongle and an adapter just to use 2 of apples latest flagship products. No need for this IMO
The real dead technology seems to be lightning
He's kind of right. "real pros" would probably be put off by the fact that you need dongles to plug in even the most basic of devices in a 4000 dollar laptop.Nice definition of "pro" you got there