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People who don't want "tons of" adapters hanging off their Mac forget that with legacy ports you still had the SAME number of things hanging off your Mac. They didn't need adapters, but they were still there.

Thank goodness I want the thinnest, lightest pro performance I can get. If I wanted a massive brick full of legacy ports, I'd be sad too.
Apparently having a 2015 MacBook Pro means that you use 0 cables at all.
 
There are other shortcomings of the new MacBook Pro that bother me more than the dongle thing'. Since they didn't speak at all about the WebCam, I have to assume it's the same POS from the 12-inch MacBook which is very grainy and embarrassing to use.
No it is 720p.
 
If Apple thinks that USB-C is the future, why is the iPhone not using it?

Probably because of
a) product development cycles.
b) power restraints
c) Chipsets available
d) Priorities, other new technologies were considered more important
e) User base (how many had a computer with USB-C ?)

All of the above was available for laptops/computers because of the their bigger power/size/support (from intel etc).

I am sure that the iPhone 7 was well over 80-90% of the way through its development by the time USB-C was ratified in 2014
 
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That'd be funny if I hadn't bought at least one of each of those.

Such elegant design, keep up the mediocre work Jony.
 
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If Apple thinks that USB-C is the future, why is the iPhone not using it?
Apple painted themselves into a corner with Lightning by actually anticipating a backlash. If you recall in 2012, they promised that Lightning would be the iPhone's port for "a long time" to reassure users that they could buy Lightning accessories confident they could use them for years.

I think we'll see a USB-C to Lightning cable standard in the iPhone before we see the iPhone adopt USB-C (if at all).
 
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It’s 2016. There’s a laptop with 4 I/O ports that go up to 40 Gbps and are backwards-compatible with everything. Somehow, this is a problem.

Maybe the problem is having to hand over another £150-£200 in dongles to access that 40 Gbps.

When discussing a good user experience , having to use dongles is a negative . Bandwidth is not a measure of clean user design.
 
Love it!

If most people here had their way here they'd prefer to be stuck in the past with ADB, SCSI, Firewire ports so they wouldn't have to suffer handling the transition and moan like little children.

And then they'd stomp their feet about the piss-poor data rates being stuck in the past!
 
Can anyone actually confirm that the Thunderbolt adapter is the only thing needed to connect the new MBPs to the Thunderbolt Display? What about the magsafe that also comes from the display? I understand some MacBooks need this in order to run in clamshell mode, but what about the new MBP?
 
They are called zip-lock plastic bags.
Each cable goes into their own bag with what it is written on it. All the bagged video cables go into another bigger bag. All the networking ones in another bigger bag, etc etc etc. Keeps them tidy, easy to find, and you leave the bag next to your computer so you remember to get you cable and pack it away.

Easy, Cheap, effective.

Nice thing too, if you are looking at people for jobs, look for the guy who carries solutions with him rather than a chip on the shoulder, they will be far more effective.

That might work if you're working from your home or office a lot of the time. But, these are portable computers (supposedly)...what's the point of shaving down millimeters worth of thinness and 0.5 pounds if I have to carry around 5 pounds of adapters and dongles with me everywhere I go?

And I don't know about you, but for me, someone carrying around bags full of other bags full of plastic bags does not say anything to me about their professionalism. If anything, it might invoke some pity in me because I'd be thinking "poor guy...he really needs a job so he can afford something better than plastic bags".
 
I think we'll see a USB-C to Lightning cable standard in the iPhone before we see the iPhone adopt USB-C (if at all).
That cable exists, and theoretically should be able to move data at USB 3 speeds. For whatever reason, it doesn't though.
 
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The real question is, will this be called "Donglegate" or "I caught my dongle in the gate"?
 
The irony is that so many of you are so caught up in the group-think here that you can't see that long-term, the new Thunderbolt 3 ports will greatly streamline connectivity on the MBP.

BS

That's exactly what they said about thunderbolt 5 years ago and now we're buying thunderbolt adapters.

Give it 5 more years and we'll all be buying adapters to fit our new USB-C devices into some other new port.
 
Oh come on guys, stop the whining.

How many actually have REAL-life experience? How many of you already use the retina Macbook? How many have used the Macbook Air of the first (or later) generation?

How often did you REALLY need adapters?

In almost 9 years of owning Macbook Airs, I've NEVER needed the ethernet adapter. I've used HDMI maybe once or twice. I needed an VGA adapter to connect my Macbook to projectors once in a while. I can't remember the last time I actually plugged in a USB thumbdrive. I use dropbox like almost always. I do use external drives quite frequently, but not really on the go, so a dock sitting on my desk or a teeny-tiny adapter will just be fine. I don't own cameras with SD, so I've been using external card readers since forever.

For me, nothing much will change. I look forward to just buying either a small dock or a bunch of USB-C to USB-A cables for my external drives.

Seriously, you're making a mountain out of a molehill.

Thought of getting an iPad Pro?
 
Must every thread turn into a @#$%fest rant against Apple/Tim Cook/Jony Ive/Angela Ahrendts. We get it. You don't like Apple and are convinced Steve Jobs would have given you an 8lb behemoth with every legacy port and all components user-upgradeable because that was his design philosophy. /s

Can you just let the rest of us stay on topic and discuss the topic at hand?
 
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Nope. The iPhone comes with a cable and a charger that you plug into the wall. Most people don't need to connect the iPhone to their computer.

If YOU want to connect the iPhone to your new MBP, you can get the cable. But Apple doesn't seriously want you to do that.

That'd be real swell but don't forget Apple is trying to take wall plugs out of Apple Watch and iPhone boxes.

So if they want to go device hanging route, they must supply Lightning-USB C.

In an ideal world, with iPhone 7, they'd have given a wall plug with a USB C slot.
 
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