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Tiger Available April 29th
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On the System Requirements page is say's:
What does that mean? How about people with PowerMacs whom have upgraded their graphics card themselves, is that supported by Tiger?
And I can't seem to find that list of supported graphics cards on Apple's site. Anybody have a link or the list?
EDIT: I should say which graphics card are supported by CoreImage.
What does that mean? How about people with PowerMacs whom have upgraded their graphics card themselves, is that supported by Tiger?
And I can't seem to find that list of supported graphics cards on Apple's site. Anybody have a link or the list?
EDIT: I should say which graphics card are supported by CoreImage.
Good to know. I looked at the little Dashboard vid, and saw that icon and said, "NO! No more icons in my dock!"confirmed said:
Family License
In the past, I've used the single user license for the three computers running in my office - any idea if this has changed in Tiger? Will I need a Family License for a small network?
Probably no way to know if this is enforced until it delivers...
BTW - I bought Tiger through the amazon link one the macrumors homepage - support!!
In the past, I've used the single user license for the three computers running in my office - any idea if this has changed in Tiger? Will I need a Family License for a small network?
Probably no way to know if this is enforced until it delivers...
BTW - I bought Tiger through the amazon link one the macrumors homepage - support!!
SiliconAddict said:No core image support for the Mac mini == No sale to me. Apple did this **** intentionally. It would have cost them what? All of maybe $50 more for a GPU that supported ALL of Tiger's functionsEven with XP the laptop I got 6 months before runs all of its functions. Stupid aholes.
If they added a $50 card there they would have to up the prices too or they wouldn't make much profit at all.
Patch^ said:just order my copy of Tiger!! cuz im a student i get it for £58.75 instead of £89. Now ive just g2 wait untill the end of the month
I too have just ordered my Tiger only at £50
threw in a copy of Roxio Popcorn and a M-Audio midi keyboard so my 3year old daughter can teach herself to play music.Now I'm just waiting for QT7 Pro to be released to make me an even happier bunny.
daveL said:
BS. Do you really think that any system that is going to hit the CPU is going to feel anything other then sluggish?? The fact of the matter is Apple did this **** intentionally. They could have given the mini the ability to FULLY support Tiger but they decided to play games.
When will Tiger come with the new computers, because I convinced my girlfriend to get a mac, but I told her to wait until Tiger is released. When will computers with Tiger pre-installed be able to be ordered? She has been waiting quite a while now...?
tech4all said:
I think it's just Apple legal covering their butts. When Panther came out, there were problems with Sawtooth G4's and nVidia cards that OWC was selling (I think they were new cards intended for Quicksilvers that never got built). This combination produced no video at all, and I don't think it was fixed until 10.3.2. Apple was refusing to fix it b/c it wasn't a 'stock' configuration, and I didn't want to stay with Jag (I disliked the GUI, the finder windows, particularly). It was enough to make me sell my Sawtooth. Well, that, and the need to eat for the month.
G4's
My buddy has one of the first G4 PowerMacs off the line and it is a 350MHz machine.
It is a TANK!!
SPUY767 said:
My buddy has one of the first G4 PowerMacs off the line and it is a 350MHz machine.
It is a TANK!!
The wait is almost over...Thank the Jobs!
Finally...an announcement! Feels like I've been checking the news and rumour sites forever. I'm looking forward to some of the new features in Tiger, but even more so I'm eager to see what new Mac hardware is on the horizon. I've been holding off on upgrading for months, just waiting until both Tiger and upgraded Macs are released. My 1ghz G4 eMac with 10.3.8 still does just fine, but I really want to get my hands on a G5 v.2 iMac or perhaps a new PowerMac. I want speed, speed, and more speed dammit!
For anyone who is upset that they just bought a new Mac prior to the Tiger announcement. Sorry about your luck. No matter the reason for your purchase at the time you made it, whether it was out of necessity or just desire, you got the computer you wanted at the time. Period. MacOS 10.3 is a great OS and is still better than XP. It may not have some of the geewhiz new features of 10.4, but it certainly isn't 'out of date'. For those of you who feel cheated because you didn't or couldn't wait, you can try sweet talkin' Apple into a free upgrade, but don't count on it. Software upgrades don't grow on trees, ya know! It takes dozens, perhaps hundreds, of dedicated engineers and designers (earning big pay checks), and lots of capital investment (ie: $$$), to build and release great new programs and/or upgrades. Apple, Microsoft, etc., have a right to charge a reasonable fee for their efforts. The money earned off the the new or upgraded software will be used for the next version down the road with all the latest and greatest features we don't even know that we want yet.
Separately to SadSwitcher: I hate that a bad sales experience has already soured your Mac experience. I don't know where you live, but if there is another Apple store nearby, try taking your mini back there. What was or wasn't said to you by the salesperson is hearsay. If you believe 100% that you were lied to, you have a valid beef and should definitely discuss it with the store manager - or even a different manager at another time if you don't get satisfaction. If perhaps you mistook what the salesperson said, they were unclear, or they were just incompetent, then just let it go and try to forget about it. It's not worth getting so upset over. As you previously noted, you were in a bind and had to make a purchase immediately to replace your broken laptop. You got a great little computer at a fair price and can be happy that it will serve your needs for several years to come. OS 10.3 is solid and still very current. I doubt there's any features in 10.4 that you just can't live without. As others have also noted, technology products are constantly changing, evolving, and dropping in price. There will always be something new and better coming out tomorrow. Fretting about buying too soon and missing out on the 'latest & greatest' is futile and will cause wrinkles. Heck, at least you didn't buy a plasma hdtv at Christmas that is now over $1000 less - or $2000 less than a year ago. Now that would give me gas!
Finally...an announcement! Feels like I've been checking the news and rumour sites forever. I'm looking forward to some of the new features in Tiger, but even more so I'm eager to see what new Mac hardware is on the horizon. I've been holding off on upgrading for months, just waiting until both Tiger and upgraded Macs are released. My 1ghz G4 eMac with 10.3.8 still does just fine, but I really want to get my hands on a G5 v.2 iMac or perhaps a new PowerMac. I want speed, speed, and more speed dammit!
For anyone who is upset that they just bought a new Mac prior to the Tiger announcement. Sorry about your luck. No matter the reason for your purchase at the time you made it, whether it was out of necessity or just desire, you got the computer you wanted at the time. Period. MacOS 10.3 is a great OS and is still better than XP. It may not have some of the geewhiz new features of 10.4, but it certainly isn't 'out of date'. For those of you who feel cheated because you didn't or couldn't wait, you can try sweet talkin' Apple into a free upgrade, but don't count on it. Software upgrades don't grow on trees, ya know! It takes dozens, perhaps hundreds, of dedicated engineers and designers (earning big pay checks), and lots of capital investment (ie: $$$), to build and release great new programs and/or upgrades. Apple, Microsoft, etc., have a right to charge a reasonable fee for their efforts. The money earned off the the new or upgraded software will be used for the next version down the road with all the latest and greatest features we don't even know that we want yet.
Separately to SadSwitcher: I hate that a bad sales experience has already soured your Mac experience. I don't know where you live, but if there is another Apple store nearby, try taking your mini back there. What was or wasn't said to you by the salesperson is hearsay. If you believe 100% that you were lied to, you have a valid beef and should definitely discuss it with the store manager - or even a different manager at another time if you don't get satisfaction. If perhaps you mistook what the salesperson said, they were unclear, or they were just incompetent, then just let it go and try to forget about it. It's not worth getting so upset over. As you previously noted, you were in a bind and had to make a purchase immediately to replace your broken laptop. You got a great little computer at a fair price and can be happy that it will serve your needs for several years to come. OS 10.3 is solid and still very current. I doubt there's any features in 10.4 that you just can't live without. As others have also noted, technology products are constantly changing, evolving, and dropping in price. There will always be something new and better coming out tomorrow. Fretting about buying too soon and missing out on the 'latest & greatest' is futile and will cause wrinkles. Heck, at least you didn't buy a plasma hdtv at Christmas that is now over $1000 less - or $2000 less than a year ago. Now that would give me gas!
The official line from Apple is that it depends on your system...john_satc said:
Very helpful, I know...
Yay! But No Java 5? Bugger...
Well, I've pre-ordered my copy of Tiger (much faff trying to order it via the UK Education Apple Store and shipped to Belgium) and, like most here, can't wait for it to turn up. I've spent the best part of 3-hours working my way through the Tiger web site and have to confess to being highly impressed with the quantity of information that Apple have provided.
However, despite my joy that I might finally be able to find the document/email that I want, I'm a bit pissed off that Java 5 isn't going to be part of the shipping OS. I have no doubt that it'll be released as a Software Update in the not too distant future, but I was really expecting it to be part of the boxed version given the length of time that Apple have had since it was released to everyone else and how much the champion themselves on making Java a "first-class citizen". Shame...
Despite the above, I'm really looking forwards to giving my PowerBook a good spring-clean and a spanking new OS. Here's hoping that the purported speed increases come to pass and that my hard disk is big enough to hold all the index information that no doubt is going to be created.
Well, I've pre-ordered my copy of Tiger (much faff trying to order it via the UK Education Apple Store and shipped to Belgium) and, like most here, can't wait for it to turn up. I've spent the best part of 3-hours working my way through the Tiger web site and have to confess to being highly impressed with the quantity of information that Apple have provided.
However, despite my joy that I might finally be able to find the document/email that I want, I'm a bit pissed off that Java 5 isn't going to be part of the shipping OS. I have no doubt that it'll be released as a Software Update in the not too distant future, but I was really expecting it to be part of the boxed version given the length of time that Apple have had since it was released to everyone else and how much the champion themselves on making Java a "first-class citizen". Shame...
Despite the above, I'm really looking forwards to giving my PowerBook a good spring-clean and a spanking new OS. Here's hoping that the purported speed increases come to pass and that my hard disk is big enough to hold all the index information that no doubt is going to be created.
SiliconAddict said:No core image support for the Mac mini == No sale to me. Apple did this **** intentionally. It would have cost them what? All of maybe $50 more for a GPU that supported ALL of Tiger's functions
You do know what CoreImage really is right? It's not a rendering engine. It's an API. Are you planning on programming something that would require all of these effects (i.e. a hardcore video or image editor)? Are you planning on doing hardcore image and video editing? Yes? Why the heck did you get a mini? It's like complaining that your normal manual screwdriver doesn't let you put up your drywall as fast as a drill-powered one.
Now if you are developing an app, then you can still test it, it just may be a little slower because those effects will be offloaded to the altivec unit.
Jim
PS: Excuse the analogy, just a long winded version of "Wrong tool for the job, yet you still complain."
Windowlicker said:
And how would this really have affected the price point of the $599 Mac Mini?
Gonna go home tonight and start backing up my mail messages, documents and other stuff to my external.
I'm going to do a fresh install of this baby.
I get back from vacation and three days later - Tiger!
Woot!
I'm going to do a fresh install of this baby.
I get back from vacation and three days later - Tiger!
Woot!
bosrs1 said:
I agree that DVD's are a lot more convenient and hold more space, but cd's definately aren't dead yet. There are still a lot of Macs out there without DVD rom drives (like mine).
Sorry dude, you're wrong get over it...
Not only is do's a perfectly legal plural of do. (Check your dictionary). It is the preferred usage in most style guides. The bibles of english writing. You're going to just be very pissed off, if you find the consensus correct form to be annoying. I suggest one of the many brands of decaffienated coffees.
VincentVega said:
Not only is do's a perfectly legal plural of do. (Check your dictionary). It is the preferred usage in most style guides. The bibles of english writing. You're going to just be very pissed off, if you find the consensus correct form to be annoying. I suggest one of the many brands of decaffienated coffees.
