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Tiger GM Leaked?
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arrr matey! May Steve Jobs through you all to Davey Jones locker! ARRR,
fyi some of my software is "registered" to black beard
fyi some of my software is "registered" to black beard
Black beard
LOL, Follow the Treasure map to find me' Bounty matey, ARGHH...
i wonder how many ppl got that...
dornoforpyros said:arrr matey! May Steve Jobs through you all to Davey Jones locker! ARRR,
fyi some of my software is "registered" to black beard
LOL, Follow the Treasure map to find me' Bounty matey, ARGHH...
i wonder how many ppl got that...
I don't really know anything about the cost of making the retail CDs/DVDs but would it be possible for companies to buy and run the factories that make the CDs/DVDs? Maybe then they could keep a closer eye on stuff like this. Again, I know next to nothing about this, but it's an idea.
patseguin said:
Because that won't do anything...
I guess people are impatient... I sometimes test a product that way, I make sure it works then if it does i buy it...
Everyone here in this site has ad least 1 time done it... so why become a martyr and say "oooooh i hate when people copy stuff..." I am sure you all copy music, you all have copied a movie and you all have had at least one piece of software cracked...
Don't be so... puritans... jeez...
And yes i came across the tiger leak, I downloaded it (steve are you copying?), tested, ran it, and i am waiting patiently to purchase it. At least now I can recommend all my clients to do it promptly.
Kil
Browsing is very fast
I did an archive install on a PB G4 1.25 15" Albook (over Panther 10.3.9).
Took 4.2 GB of space on my boot drive! You might want to disable all of the asian fonts and gig of printer drivers before you install (custom I think).
Right now it is extremely fast! This computer used to be somewhat sluggish just browsing compared to a Windows box, but now at this time, I am doing the following:
Tiger Screenshot
I installed it last night and I can confirm, it is the full release version. Or just check my attached screenshot if you don't believe me.Stella said:
I did an archive install on a PB G4 1.25 15" Albook (over Panther 10.3.9).
Took 4.2 GB of space on my boot drive! You might want to disable all of the asian fonts and gig of printer drivers before you install (custom I think).
Right now it is extremely fast! This computer used to be somewhat sluggish just browsing compared to a Windows box, but now at this time, I am doing the following:
- Listening to Groove Salad in iTunes
- Browsing with several open tabs in Safari 2.0
- Checking the Dashboard to try out the new Yellow Pages/Phonebook widget.
- Burning a DVD in Toast.
Tiger Screenshot
wdlove said:
Yup most of the people in the old skool generations or the script kiddie generation would have any idea where to get the GM build out there...
In fact I could say the site that has it right now...
<crack in the door is heard, a woman screams and a really black dude in a men in black suite says,"Secret Service you are under arrest">
SoundGuyDave said:
You think Apple is like Microsoft...
Upgrades cost money... upgrades like H.264, upgrades like a free widget engine (now you dont have to pay arlo rose for widgets... you get them for free.. legally). Now you got slideshows in mail.app, and 200 gazillion things that made panther in to a better cat... a Tiger... miau lowder use tiger while you wait for longhorn, which by then you will moo longer...
someone should flunk this marketing people...
I imagine steeve going for the OS 11, going.. "Well for the new generation of Operating system which we are going to base of, TI Spell Me OS, we are going to call it OS V-12 "Ferrari", then the next point release, "OS V-12.1 "Lamborghini", then "OS V-12.2 Aston Martin", then "OS V-12.3 Jaguar.. oops we already did that one... um Volvo?"...
swissmann said:
I admit it...
lets see how much I have:
Um Panther, (i got a copy from a friend)
Office for mac (same)
Macromedia studio Suite (got it from bit torrent)
Maya (friend)
Apple Pro Suite (got it off a site)
But.. um.. I bought the machine..
well would'nt you know it it's april the 1st again and macrumors is full of pirates lol
i for one do not have a copy of tiger just the desktop pics and other little tid bit's - i'm not too sure about all of you lot ! i mean i love my apple and i love the company's vision about software and hardware but i think alot of you are bending apple over and giving them a right royal by downloading the pirate version !! i mean come on ! little bits of info is fine but to rip them off totaly is wrong in my book , but thats just my view
so why has apple not stopped the pirate downloads??
i for one do not have a copy of tiger just the desktop pics and other little tid bit's - i'm not too sure about all of you lot ! i mean i love my apple and i love the company's vision about software and hardware but i think alot of you are bending apple over and giving them a right royal
by downloading the pirate version !! i mean come on ! little bits of info is fine but to rip them off totaly is wrong in my book , but thats just my view so why has apple not stopped the pirate downloads??
swindmill said:
Do what many other people do... Install it on a computer you don't care about...
I'm fairly certain a tiger could kill a long horned bull...if M$ was smart they'd change longhorns name to Hunter or something.
liketom said:so why has apple not stopped the pirate downloads??
easier said than done my friend, that's like saying "why doesn't the government stop ppl from doing drugs"
It's a fact of life
The fact of the matter is, software piracy is a fact of life everywhere on this planet. And it's a vicious cycle that no one can get out of. Putting the strict legal interpretation aside, a number of points to consider from a commercial and social dynamics points of view,
1. Most softwares are priced for the developed countries where the average income is markedly higher. And most softwares don't have a 3rd world country discount.
2. Many softwares prices are calculated with corporate purchasers in mind. Many SOHO and individual users often just can't comprehend the RRP, yet they are expected to be fully compatible with these corporate standards.
3. Piracy is just as rampant in the developed world. Many if not most famous crackers are well educated and extremely computer literate.
4. In order to make up for the profit loss to pirates, companies tries to buffer their loss of potential earnings through even higher prices, in turn, driving more potential users to piracy.
5. Game of market dominance and use of closed standards eg. IE and web pages, java , MS Office. Forces some to have a copy of those softwares to stay compatible and be able to communicate with others in the industry, even if they don't use it routinely.
6. 3rd world countries users have little choice but to pirate. It's that or not use it and develop an even bigger communication, technology gap with the developed world. A bigger social/technology/informatic/income gap is detrimental both for the 3rd world as well as for developed countries.
From my perspective. Pre-release leaks puts a real damper on the excitment of receiving my copy of Tiger in the mail. Makes me think twice about why I spent $$$ (feel good factor). But on the positive side, 10 days is a good time to discover bugs. By the time I get my copy, I'd have read about all the 10.4.0 bugs discovered in the wild and I'd be far more informed of what compatibility issues I would face. It may very well hold me off and wait for 10.4.1.
For my conspiracy theory, it kind of makes sense for Apple to secretly leak these releases to better protect their paying customers. If there really was a big big boo boo that wasn't discovered through the beta testing program, Apple will know early and without any liabilities to those pirates. In a way, thank you you pirates out there. Send in your bug reports!
Oh one more thing. Believe it or not, piracy is good for market penetration. MSFT used it to great effect in earlier days. But now they have the top spot with users trapped with their products, registration and piracy suddenly became a key issue for them. The absence of a registration code for Mac OS X can only mean one thing, Apple's default acknowledgement for piracy (OS X Server edition, iWork, Pro products all have it). It's almost like saying, please install as many copies as you possibly can at home, at work, at your friends or anyone you can switch on the net. For Apple, if Mac OS X can hit 10% market usage, Bam! More $$$$$$$$$$$$$ for Apple and a big ego trip for SJ in front of BG!
Well, I think this is the reality.
The fact of the matter is, software piracy is a fact of life everywhere on this planet. And it's a vicious cycle that no one can get out of. Putting the strict legal interpretation aside, a number of points to consider from a commercial and social dynamics points of view,
1. Most softwares are priced for the developed countries where the average income is markedly higher. And most softwares don't have a 3rd world country discount.
2. Many softwares prices are calculated with corporate purchasers in mind. Many SOHO and individual users often just can't comprehend the RRP, yet they are expected to be fully compatible with these corporate standards.
3. Piracy is just as rampant in the developed world. Many if not most famous crackers are well educated and extremely computer literate.
4. In order to make up for the profit loss to pirates, companies tries to buffer their loss of potential earnings through even higher prices, in turn, driving more potential users to piracy.
5. Game of market dominance and use of closed standards eg. IE and web pages, java , MS Office. Forces some to have a copy of those softwares to stay compatible and be able to communicate with others in the industry, even if they don't use it routinely.
6. 3rd world countries users have little choice but to pirate. It's that or not use it and develop an even bigger communication, technology gap with the developed world. A bigger social/technology/informatic/income gap is detrimental both for the 3rd world as well as for developed countries.
From my perspective. Pre-release leaks puts a real damper on the excitment of receiving my copy of Tiger in the mail. Makes me think twice about why I spent $$$ (feel good factor). But on the positive side, 10 days is a good time to discover bugs. By the time I get my copy, I'd have read about all the 10.4.0 bugs discovered in the wild and I'd be far more informed of what compatibility issues I would face. It may very well hold me off and wait for 10.4.1.
For my conspiracy theory, it kind of makes sense for Apple to secretly leak these releases to better protect their paying customers. If there really was a big big boo boo that wasn't discovered through the beta testing program, Apple will know early and without any liabilities to those pirates. In a way, thank you you pirates out there. Send in your bug reports!
Oh one more thing. Believe it or not, piracy is good for market penetration. MSFT used it to great effect in earlier days. But now they have the top spot with users trapped with their products, registration and piracy suddenly became a key issue for them. The absence of a registration code for Mac OS X can only mean one thing, Apple's default acknowledgement for piracy (OS X Server edition, iWork, Pro products all have it). It's almost like saying, please install as many copies as you possibly can at home, at work, at your friends or anyone you can switch on the net. For Apple, if Mac OS X can hit 10% market usage, Bam! More $$$$$$$$$$$$$ for Apple and a big ego trip for SJ in front of BG!
Well, I think this is the reality.
No luck here
I'm not a pirate or anything, but boy am I impatient. I went looking on P2P networks and bittorrent sites, and I couldn't find a trace of the thing.
I know the mods of this forum won't tolerate any hanky-panky, so I won't ask. But I'll say this, I'm jealous of those who've found it.
(to explain my "I'm not a pirate" statement, I already placed an order for 10.4. Personally, I believe in the whole idea of "voting with your dollar", i.e. supporting companies you like by buying their products. I like Apple and their products, so I don't mind paying them for them.)
I'm not a pirate or anything, but boy am I impatient. I went looking on P2P networks and bittorrent sites, and I couldn't find a trace of the thing.
I know the mods of this forum won't tolerate any hanky-panky, so I won't ask. But I'll say this, I'm jealous of those who've found it.
(to explain my "I'm not a pirate" statement, I already placed an order for 10.4. Personally, I believe in the whole idea of "voting with your dollar", i.e. supporting companies you like by buying their products. I like Apple and their products, so I don't mind paying them for them.)
SoGood said:The fact of the matter is, software piracy is a fact of life everywhere on this planet. And it's a vicious cycle that no one can get out of. Putting the strict legal interpretation aside, a number of points to consider from a commercial and social dynamics points of view,
1. Most softwares are priced for the developed countries where the average income is markedly higher. And most softwares don't have a 3rd world country discount.
2. Many softwares prices are calculated with corporate purchasers in mind. Many SOHO and individual users often just can't comprehend the RRP, yet they are expected to be fully compatible with these corporate standards.
3. Piracy is just as rampant in the developed world. Many if not most famous crackers are well educated and extremely computer literate.
4. In order to make up for the profit loss to pirates, companies tries to buffer their loss of potential earnings through even higher prices, in turn, driving more potential users to piracy.
5. Game of market dominance and use of closed standards eg. IE and web pages, java , MS Office. Forces some to have a copy of those softwares to stay compatible and be able to communicate with others in the industry, even if they don't use it routinely.
6. 3rd world countries users have little choice but to pirate. It's that or not use it and develop an even bigger communication, technology gap with the developed world. A bigger social/technology/informatic/income gap is detrimental both for the 3rd world as well as for developed countries.
From my perspective. Pre-release leaks puts a real damper on the excitment of receiving my copy of Tiger in the mail. Makes me think twice about why I spent $$$ (feel good factor). But on the positive side, 10 days is a good time to discover bugs. By the time I get my copy, I'd have read about all the 10.4.0 bugs discovered in the wild and I'd be far more informed of what compatibility issues I would face. It may very well hold me off and wait for 10.4.1.
For my conspiracy theory, it kind of makes sense for Apple to secretly leak these releases to better protect their paying customers. If there really was a big big boo boo that wasn't discovered through the beta testing program, Apple will know early and without any liabilities to those pirates. In a way, thank you you pirates out there. Send in your bug reports!
Oh one more thing. Believe it or not, piracy is good for market penetration. MSFT used it to great effect in earlier days. But now they have the top spot with users trapped with their products, registration and piracy suddenly became a key issue for them. The absence of a registration code for Mac OS X can only mean one thing, Apple's default acknowledgement for piracy (OS X Server edition, iWork, Pro products all have it). It's almost like saying, please install as many copies as you possibly can at home, at work, at your friends or anyone you can switch on the net. For Apple, if Mac OS X can hit 10% market usage, Bam! More $$$$$$$$$$$$$ for Apple and a big ego trip for SJ in front of BG!
Well, I think this is the reality.
I think you are right. Too many folk get sanctimonious about piracy. It will always be with us, and there's no real evidence that it makes software that much more expensive (just as there is no evidence that P2P music sharing harms CD sales).
None of my software is illegal, but I don't get my knickers in a twist when other people copy things. There are better things to waste your time on.
He, I'm just waiting for the final release to be deemed 8A429 . Wouldn't that be hilarious?
Only ten more days...
-Chase
. Wouldn't that be hilarious?Only ten more days...
-Chase
It's a risk you take. No one can help you or decide for you. No one has got that far and people will only know when 10.4.1 comes out.Anarchy99 said:
In the past, there has been beta versions where it could not be updated. Then it's a case of reinstalling the release version. There has also been cases where the final version of OS X would not permit the installation over an earlier beta version, requiring a clean install.
Not so much Tiger
Many sites are not tracking/hosting Tiger that have in the past done so with Apple software and OS releases (including betas). Sure, it's floating around, but I think a lot of people have *decided* against propagating it out of both fear and respect.
I doubt it's being pirated in significant quantities, and I agree that most of the people downloading have either already pre-ordered and can't wait, or are people who are really strapped for cash, and simply would not buy it anyway. In the end, both of these groups getting their hands on Tiger is a good thing for Apple. Please note, I'm not condoning piracy over purchase!
One really cool thing about Tiger...
See the top sellers in Electronics/Software on Amazon.com. For the past few weeks Tiger has been #1 (even beating tax prep software) for $95, and now the family pack is #2 at $150. Since there is ZERO difference outside of the licensing between the two packages, you've got to figure a hell of a lot of people made the conscious choice to pay instead of pirate.
Many sites are not tracking/hosting Tiger that have in the past done so with Apple software and OS releases (including betas). Sure, it's floating around, but I think a lot of people have *decided* against propagating it out of both fear and respect.
I doubt it's being pirated in significant quantities, and I agree that most of the people downloading have either already pre-ordered and can't wait, or are people who are really strapped for cash, and simply would not buy it anyway. In the end, both of these groups getting their hands on Tiger is a good thing for Apple. Please note, I'm not condoning piracy over purchase!
One really cool thing about Tiger...
See the top sellers in Electronics/Software on Amazon.com. For the past few weeks Tiger has been #1 (even beating tax prep software) for $95, and now the family pack is #2 at $150. Since there is ZERO difference outside of the licensing between the two packages, you've got to figure a hell of a lot of people made the conscious choice to pay instead of pirate.
SoGood said:
etc. etc.
Any way you choose to justify pirating, it is not right. Yes, it is a judgment call, but the following is not... any way you dress it up, it is still theft.
Moreover, by extension your logic would justify slavery when it too was a worldwide "fact of life". Does that make it right?
The points you do bring up are interesting though. They definitely show that there is no simple solution to this theft.