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This administration is putting a lot of work into saving TikTok, and I'm not even 100% sure why. 😬

Maybe they really like cute dance challenges? :cool:
One of TikTok investors, Jeff Yass, has contributed a considerable sum to Trump.
 
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It's a Chinese black box, which is why so many are a bit worried about it overall.
The American portion of it literally runs in Oracle data centers, does it not?


Saying it's a "Chinese black box" is akin to saying we have no clue where it runs, and no clue who runs it. There are literally American Engineers running the deployment for Tik Tok here in America. Go look on different job platforms, they're hiring recently different positions regarding their U.S. deployment.

But I get the average U.S. sentiment of "China bad when I'm ignorant of how China does xyz"...

You could argue that Meta's Facebook, Instagram, and WhatsApp are an American black box because they don't have transparency regarding how data is dealt with especially with regard to targeted ad sales.

The privacy policy pages for both companies are milque toast, lawyer speak, boilerplate crap.

People from both sides complain anytime they feel like they're being left out or they don't understand something, but, we have the same problems with our own native social media platforms and nobody cares that Zuckerberg is a worthless pile of 💩 in keeping our data safe.


Lately people are to apathetic to care, so the most vocal and ignorant voters got roped into jingoism, IMO.

Older voters that didn't grow up with TikTok are scared because they don't understand how to use the platform. The platform and "social media influencing" and viral trends could have happened on Instagram or Facebook if TikTok never materialized here. To blame a platform for people behaving ignorantly is disingenuous.

I'm not defending TikTok, and I don't really use it unless someone shares something with me, but I feel like most people who are worked up about it need to take deep breath, touch some grass, and really compare and contrast how it is any different than an American company selling out our data to anyone with the money to cover it.
 
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All I have to say is that if tariffs don’t work, other countries wouldn’t be tariffing America. We will win in the end no doubt.
Some real big brain logic there. Tariffs are a tool, and you can use them surgically and effectively to help prop up specific industries that your country wants to have a competitive advantage, but those industries need to have the resources and infrastructure in place to do so. Otherwise it's literally just a tax with absolutely no upside. For example, the US consumes 350x the coffee it can possibly produce (and even if it could it's way too labor intensive to be economically viable here), and Trump just slapped tariffs on all coffee producing countries. In what world does it make sense for a customer to expect all producers to *also* be customers?

And the retaliatory tariffs aren't there for the purposes of targeted tariffing. They are there to say "screw you" to our insane tariff numbers that are meaningless AI slop and aren't even actually reciprocal.

Tariffs as a scalpel on a product or industry basis? Sure. But right now this is using a canon to kill a mosquito.
 
All I have to say is that if tariffs don’t work, other countries wouldn’t be tariffing America. We will win in the end no doubt.

Specific tariffs, for specific countries and for specific products can work. Blanket tariffs, however, are lazy, uneducated, and unsupported by history. You treat tariffs like microsurgery, not like chopping down your neighbors mailbox with a dull axe.

The best options is to make friends with other countries, so you can both win. There doesn't need to be a loser. Hence the concept of partners and allies.
 
He wanted it banned when the servers for the US were in China.

I don't know how it would make a difference if servers are in the US instead of China it's not like the data is a stack of documents that you need to smuggle outside the US. China could very well have spies in every big tech company and get constant stream of data updates daily or hourly. How hard is it to change IPs with vpn we do it as individuals daily imagine what governments like China that have satellites at their disposal could do.
 
I’ve seen the consequences firsthand—a young kid I knew took part in a TikTok challenge. Now? He’s in prison. There are others too, though I can’t speak from personal experience with those cases. Honestly, I believe the obsession with social media apps might end up being more addictive than heroin laced with fentanyl. 🙄

Yeah, I heard somebody watched Heat and tried to rob a bank afterwards.

Better ban Hollywood movies and Ford trucks.
 
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There will be no buyer, because there is no sale. China isn't going to give the US TikTok, regardless of the price or threats.

China has called Trump's bluff.
Everything has a price. I'm sure a deal could be worked out, but I am doubtful Trump is capable of making any deal that benefits the US more than it benefits his own ego and/or bank account.
 
Man, I don’t even care. Just ban it this point. The constant back-and-forth is so silly to focus on at this point. We are in a trade war, we are even debating invading other countries and our own country is going to crap. Last thing I care about is scrolling TikTok right now.
 
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You’d be surprised at how much leniency this law gave to the president.
It really doesn’t.

There is an exemption in the statute for a qualified divestiture, and that's where the president certifies there is a deal in place will result that the application's no longer being controlled by a foreign adversary. This can only happen, when the president grants a one-time extension for no more than 90 days after certifying to Congress that a binding legal agreement is in place.

There was no certification to Congress because there has been no legally binding deal. And last time I checked 75+75=150, which is much longer than 90 days. And this is a second exemption, which is more than once.

Hence, Trump is, once again, breaking the law. Shocking that the “law and order” and “defend law enforcement” party supports this lawlessness. But they nominated and then got elected a convicted felon who tried to overthrow the government president, so I guess I shouldn’t be surprised.
 
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