That is why is should be simply unplugged! No one wins!There will be no buyer, because there is no sale. China isn't going to give the US TikTok, regardless of the price or threats.
China has called Trump's bluff.
What the Chinese owners of TikTok want to know that Americans dance & drink Starbucks latte’sAnother 75 days for the communist chinese to spy on us! We should have unplugged it long ago!
Too bad for all those chuckleheads trying to sell iPhones w/ TikTok installed for thousands of $$$ on eBay right now.
Another 75 days for the communist chinese to spy on us! We should have unplugged it long ago!
This is what Hallie’s when republicans are in control of the branches and they don’t have backbones. They don’t want to risk their own political futures.
No, it’s actually a significant security threat.The only reason it's banned is because musk and zuck got their knickers in a twist about another company doing social media better than them. Their response is to go cry to daddy DC instead of improving their product.
Certain social media platforms that are owned by none Chinese promote certain types of content leaning to one side?No, it’s actually a significant security threat.
TikTok has already been caught manipulating the algorithm to downplay things China doesn’t like (their ethnic cleansing, tank man, even a NBA team supporting protestors. Who is to say they wouldn’t use it promote politicians favorable to China, or support of policies that benefit China over the US?
No, it’s actually a significant security threat.
TikTok has already been caught manipulating the algorithm to downplay things China doesn’t like (their ethnic cleansing, tank man, even a NBA team supporting protestors. Who is to say they wouldn’t use it promote politicians favorable to China, or support of policies that benefit China over the US?
Because it’s easier to control them at the higher level of government than a Chinese company that’s why it’s fundamentally differentManipulating the algorithm isn't a security threat because nothing of consequence happens under said algorithm.
It's cool when Zuck started modifying the Facebook algorithm after the election, though, and pushed trump and Vance to everyone's feed and suggested friend list. Musk manipulates the algorithm on X All the time push or punishing things he doesn't like. Why is it not a threat?
Exactly. The algorithm’s value is that it’s a tool for propaganda.No, it’s actually a significant security threat.
TikTok has already been caught manipulating the algorithm to downplay things China doesn’t like (their ethnic cleansing, tank man, even a NBA team supporting protestors. Who is to say they wouldn’t use it promote politicians favorable to China, or support of policies that benefit China over the US?
Agree 100%, but they’re not run by a foreign adversary, they’re run by Americans. The US has a legitimate interest in ensuring a foreign adversary is not manipulating public opinion of voters.Certain social media platforms that are owned by none Chinese promote certain types of content leaning to one side?
Ok but why is X flooded constantly with content that directly correlates with a certain political demographic regardless if you want it or not.Agree 100%, but they’re not run by a foreign adversary, they’re run by Americans. The US has a legitimate interest in ensuring a foreign adversary is not manipulating public opinion of voters.
The Chinese agree on this, by the way, which is why they don’t allow US social media platforms in their country. They’re worried our culture will influence their citizens and promote democracy.
The US has a legitimate interest in ensuring a foreign adversary is not manipulating public opinion of voters.
I don’t use either service, and am certainly not a fan of Musk or his politics, but I don’t doubt that he is doing what he thinks is best for the country, even if I vehemently disagree with him. I also know China is absolutely not operating with the best interests of the US in mind. So, in my opinion, it actually is a significant security issue - I don’t want the Chinese influencing our politics.Ok but why is X flooded constantly with content that directly correlates with a certain political demographic regardless if you want it or not.
yet on that platform you are less likely to have that
Mate I don’t even live in America & I’m bombarded with MAGA content consistentlyI don’t use either service, and am certainly not a fan of Musk or his politics, but I don’t doubt that he is doing what he thinks is best for the country, even if I vehemently disagree with him. I also know China is absolutely not operating with the best interests of the US in mind. So, in my opinion, it actually is a significant security issue - I don’t want the Chinese influencing our politics.
As much as others want to cry protectionism, if TikTok was owned by Germany I guarantee this kind of law wouldn’t have been passed.
Very thorny issue. While foreign entities without U.S. citizenship lack 1st Amendment free speech rights, U.S. citizens have 'freedom of religion' rights to believe as they will, and to consider ideas the government may not like. In effect, if an adult U.S. citizen wants to consume foreign propaganda (instead of domestic propaganda), that person can do so.The US has a legitimate interest in ensuring a foreign adversary is not manipulating public opinion of voters.
The Chinese agree on this, by the way, which is why they don’t allow US social media platforms in their country. They’re worried our culture will influence their citizens and promote democracy.
In the U.S., the idea of upper level government figures 'controlling the narrative' is highly objectionable for many. This came out when Zuckerberg revealed pressure from the Biden administration to censor some pandemic-related content.You don’t get that on that platform & it’s harder for upper levels to control the narrative if it’s a non western company
Musk is also a con man, but not quite an idiot. He is not doing what he thinks is best for the country. He is doing what's best for his bank account. He leveraged X and his bank account to push a few swing states into Trump's favor, and in return Trump gave him an unelected role in an unofficial government department. This has allowed Musk to dismantle oversight groups that had valid legal concerns towards Musk's companies, and redirect taxpayer dollars to Musk's companies and away from citizens.I don’t use either service, and am certainly not a fan of Musk or his politics, but I don’t doubt that he is doing what he thinks is best for the country, even if I vehemently disagree with him. I also know China is absolutely not operating with the best interests of the US in mind. So, in my opinion, it actually is a significant security issue - I don’t want the Chinese influencing our politics.
As much as others want to cry protectionism, if TikTok was owned by Germany I guarantee this kind of law wouldn’t have been passed.
It seems like there must be more to it. There comes a time (in theory; I haven't lived it!) where escalating wealth doesn't significantly impact your lifestyle. If you have $1 billion, $10 billion or $50 billion, what changes?He is doing what's best for his bank account.
Every government try’s to do it to a certain degree to control the narrative some governments more than others but.Very thorny issue. While foreign entities without U.S. citizenship lack 1st Amendment free speech rights, U.S. citizens have 'freedom of religion' rights to believe as they will, and to consider ideas the government may not like. In effect, if an adult U.S. citizen wants to consume foreign propaganda (instead of domestic propaganda), that person can do so.
On the other hand, someone once pointed out we don't let foreign entities own major media outlets. Imagine if a Russian company bought the New York Times, or a Chinese company bought the Wall Street Journal.
In the U.S., the idea of upper level government figures 'controlling the narrative' is highly objectionable for many. This came out when Zuckerberg revealed pressure from the Biden administration to censor some pandemic-related content.
Putting aside China and Russia, anybody know how active a hand Western European governments play in trying to 'control the narrative' on social media? I'd like to get a broader understanding of how prevalent this is.
You're thinking like a non-sociopathic rational human being, which Musk is not. Perhaps it's no longer about money alone, but power and ego.It seems like there must be more to it. There comes a time (in theory; I haven't lived it!) where escalating wealth doesn't significantly impact your lifestyle. If you have $1 billion, $10 billion or $50 billion, what changes?
If you doubled my family's annual gross income, I can think of things that'd change...we go on a cruise, etc... There are things we'd like to do but don't because we don't have that much extra money.
I'm not denying greed can play a role. Infamously, when asked how much money it takes to make a man happy, John D. Rockefeller Sr. replied "Just a little bit more."
Musk seems to have a bit of that 'I want to change the world' mentality, which reminds me of Steve Jobs. Different people and approaches, but I think what drives him must be more than just racking more wealth.