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Another 75 days for the communist chinese to spy on us! We should have unplugged it long ago!
What the Chinese owners of TikTok want to know that Americans dance & drink Starbucks latte’s
That dastardly china they want to see what we are doing compared with or social media companies that don’t
 
Too bad for all those chuckleheads trying to sell iPhones w/ TikTok installed for thousands of $$$ on eBay right now.

Can it possibly get more confused? At this rate, you'd need quantum physics to chart the trajectory of their mind. These people operate on a level of mental disarray so advanced, it should qualify as performance art. And the best part? They must maintain a carefully curated echo chamber of equally dazed accomplices—like a support group for the cerebrally overdrawn—just to avoid the crushing realization that they come across as complete morons. It's a tragicomic ballet of the bewildered, where nobody dares point out the obvious because they're all too busy trying to remember which end of the argument is up. Honestly, if groupthink were an Olympic sport, this crew would take gold while tying their shoelaces together.

They copy all that from somewhere, don't they?
 
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Another 75 days for the communist chinese to spy on us! We should have unplugged it long ago!

The only reason it's banned is because musk and zuck got their knickers in a twist about another company doing social media better than them. Their response is to go cry to daddy DC instead of improving their product.
 
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The only reason it's banned is because musk and zuck got their knickers in a twist about another company doing social media better than them. Their response is to go cry to daddy DC instead of improving their product.
No, it’s actually a significant security threat.

TikTok has already been caught manipulating the algorithm to downplay things China doesn’t like (their ethnic cleansing, tank man, even a NBA team supporting protestors. Who is to say they wouldn’t use it promote politicians favorable to China, or support of policies that benefit China over the US?
 
No, it’s actually a significant security threat.

TikTok has already been caught manipulating the algorithm to downplay things China doesn’t like (their ethnic cleansing, tank man, even a NBA team supporting protestors. Who is to say they wouldn’t use it promote politicians favorable to China, or support of policies that benefit China over the US?
Certain social media platforms that are owned by none Chinese promote certain types of content leaning to one side?
 
Insiders say this was mostly driven by Isr.
Bytedance succumbed, donated, and the caravan moved on.
Censorship on Tiktok is now considered worse than on IG.
 
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No, it’s actually a significant security threat.

TikTok has already been caught manipulating the algorithm to downplay things China doesn’t like (their ethnic cleansing, tank man, even a NBA team supporting protestors. Who is to say they wouldn’t use it promote politicians favorable to China, or support of policies that benefit China over the US?

Manipulating the algorithm isn't a security threat because nothing of consequence happens under said algorithm.

It's cool when Zuck started modifying the Facebook algorithm after the election, though, and pushed trump and Vance to everyone's feed and suggested friend list. Musk manipulates the algorithm on X All the time push or punishing things he doesn't like. Why is it not a threat?

I don't use, and have never used TikTok, nor do I use Facebook or X. I just don't see any difference because I trust musk less than china, and Zuckerberg is just a liar and scumbag.
 
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Manipulating the algorithm isn't a security threat because nothing of consequence happens under said algorithm.

It's cool when Zuck started modifying the Facebook algorithm after the election, though, and pushed trump and Vance to everyone's feed and suggested friend list. Musk manipulates the algorithm on X All the time push or punishing things he doesn't like. Why is it not a threat?
Because it’s easier to control them at the higher level of government than a Chinese company that’s why it’s fundamentally different
 
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No, it’s actually a significant security threat.

TikTok has already been caught manipulating the algorithm to downplay things China doesn’t like (their ethnic cleansing, tank man, even a NBA team supporting protestors. Who is to say they wouldn’t use it promote politicians favorable to China, or support of policies that benefit China over the US?
Exactly. The algorithm’s value is that it’s a tool for propaganda.
 
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Certain social media platforms that are owned by none Chinese promote certain types of content leaning to one side?
Agree 100%, but they’re not run by a foreign adversary, they’re run by Americans. The US has a legitimate interest in ensuring a foreign adversary is not manipulating public opinion of voters.

The Chinese agree on this, by the way, which is why they don’t allow US social media platforms in their country. They’re worried our culture will influence their citizens and promote democracy.
 
Agree 100%, but they’re not run by a foreign adversary, they’re run by Americans. The US has a legitimate interest in ensuring a foreign adversary is not manipulating public opinion of voters.

The Chinese agree on this, by the way, which is why they don’t allow US social media platforms in their country. They’re worried our culture will influence their citizens and promote democracy.
Ok but why is X flooded constantly with content that directly correlates with a certain political demographic regardless if you want it or not.
yet on that platform you are less likely to have that
 
Ok but why is X flooded constantly with content that directly correlates with a certain political demographic regardless if you want it or not.
yet on that platform you are less likely to have that
I don’t use either service, and am certainly not a fan of Musk or his politics, but I don’t doubt that he is doing what he thinks is best for the country, even if I vehemently disagree with him. I also know China is absolutely not operating with the best interests of the US in mind. So, in my opinion, it actually is a significant security issue - I don’t want the Chinese influencing our politics.

As much as others want to cry protectionism, if TikTok was owned by Germany I guarantee this kind of law wouldn’t have been passed.
 
I don’t use either service, and am certainly not a fan of Musk or his politics, but I don’t doubt that he is doing what he thinks is best for the country, even if I vehemently disagree with him. I also know China is absolutely not operating with the best interests of the US in mind. So, in my opinion, it actually is a significant security issue - I don’t want the Chinese influencing our politics.

As much as others want to cry protectionism, if TikTok was owned by Germany I guarantee this kind of law wouldn’t have been passed.
Mate I don’t even live in America & I’m bombarded with MAGA content consistently

You don’t get that on that platform & it’s harder for upper levels to control the narrative if it’s a non western company
 
The US has a legitimate interest in ensuring a foreign adversary is not manipulating public opinion of voters.

The Chinese agree on this, by the way, which is why they don’t allow US social media platforms in their country. They’re worried our culture will influence their citizens and promote democracy.
Very thorny issue. While foreign entities without U.S. citizenship lack 1st Amendment free speech rights, U.S. citizens have 'freedom of religion' rights to believe as they will, and to consider ideas the government may not like. In effect, if an adult U.S. citizen wants to consume foreign propaganda (instead of domestic propaganda), that person can do so.

On the other hand, someone once pointed out we don't let foreign entities own major media outlets. Imagine if a Russian company bought the New York Times, or a Chinese company bought the Wall Street Journal.

You don’t get that on that platform & it’s harder for upper levels to control the narrative if it’s a non western company
In the U.S., the idea of upper level government figures 'controlling the narrative' is highly objectionable for many. This came out when Zuckerberg revealed pressure from the Biden administration to censor some pandemic-related content.

Putting aside China and Russia, anybody know how active a hand Western European governments play in trying to 'control the narrative' on social media? I'd like to get a broader understanding of how prevalent this is.
 
I don’t use either service, and am certainly not a fan of Musk or his politics, but I don’t doubt that he is doing what he thinks is best for the country, even if I vehemently disagree with him. I also know China is absolutely not operating with the best interests of the US in mind. So, in my opinion, it actually is a significant security issue - I don’t want the Chinese influencing our politics.

As much as others want to cry protectionism, if TikTok was owned by Germany I guarantee this kind of law wouldn’t have been passed.
Musk is also a con man, but not quite an idiot. He is not doing what he thinks is best for the country. He is doing what's best for his bank account. He leveraged X and his bank account to push a few swing states into Trump's favor, and in return Trump gave him an unelected role in an unofficial government department. This has allowed Musk to dismantle oversight groups that had valid legal concerns towards Musk's companies, and redirect taxpayer dollars to Musk's companies and away from citizens.
 
If Chinese government says big Chinese NO then does not matter what president Trump says or want.
 
He is doing what's best for his bank account.
It seems like there must be more to it. There comes a time (in theory; I haven't lived it!) where escalating wealth doesn't significantly impact your lifestyle. If you have $1 billion, $10 billion or $50 billion, what changes?

If you doubled my family's annual gross income, I can think of things that'd change...we go on a cruise, etc... There are things we'd like to do but don't because we don't have that much extra money.

I'm not denying greed can play a role. Infamously, when asked how much money it takes to make a man happy, John D. Rockefeller Sr. replied "Just a little bit more."

Musk seems to have a bit of that 'I want to change the world' mentality, which reminds me of Steve Jobs. Different people and approaches, but I think what drives him must be more than just racking more wealth.
 
Very thorny issue. While foreign entities without U.S. citizenship lack 1st Amendment free speech rights, U.S. citizens have 'freedom of religion' rights to believe as they will, and to consider ideas the government may not like. In effect, if an adult U.S. citizen wants to consume foreign propaganda (instead of domestic propaganda), that person can do so.

On the other hand, someone once pointed out we don't let foreign entities own major media outlets. Imagine if a Russian company bought the New York Times, or a Chinese company bought the Wall Street Journal.


In the U.S., the idea of upper level government figures 'controlling the narrative' is highly objectionable for many. This came out when Zuckerberg revealed pressure from the Biden administration to censor some pandemic-related content.

Putting aside China and Russia, anybody know how active a hand Western European governments play in trying to 'control the narrative' on social media? I'd like to get a broader understanding of how prevalent this is.
Every government try’s to do it to a certain degree to control the narrative some governments more than others but.
 
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If this MFer just gambled the entire US economy for leverage on TIKTOK...

Just how out of whack are his priorities?!
 
It seems like there must be more to it. There comes a time (in theory; I haven't lived it!) where escalating wealth doesn't significantly impact your lifestyle. If you have $1 billion, $10 billion or $50 billion, what changes?

If you doubled my family's annual gross income, I can think of things that'd change...we go on a cruise, etc... There are things we'd like to do but don't because we don't have that much extra money.

I'm not denying greed can play a role. Infamously, when asked how much money it takes to make a man happy, John D. Rockefeller Sr. replied "Just a little bit more."

Musk seems to have a bit of that 'I want to change the world' mentality, which reminds me of Steve Jobs. Different people and approaches, but I think what drives him must be more than just racking more wealth.
You're thinking like a non-sociopathic rational human being, which Musk is not. Perhaps it's no longer about money alone, but power and ego.
 
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