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Tim Cook: 'Android is Like Europe', Many Different Things Under One Name

This thread is of course political because what Tim Cook said shows how uneducated and ignorant Tim really is. He insulted a whole continent.
 
funny to look at this sad reality…
http://www.boredpanda.com/americans-place-european-countries-on-map/

I bet any other citizen of the western world asked to map out Asia will face a similar or worse performance…Africa…Middle-East…pacific islands…etc...
 
McGiord said:
funny to look at this sad reality…
http://www.boredpanda.com/americans-place-european-countries-on-map/

I bet any other citizen of the western world asked to map out Asia will face a similar or worse performance…Africa…Middle-East…pacific islands…etc...
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About the same results the Aussies and Brits got when asked to label all 50 states. So what does that tell us?

GEOGRAPHY IS THE SINGLE PRIME INDICATOR OF INTELLIGENCE, AND EVERYONE IN THE WHOLE DAMN WORLD IS STUPID! THAT'S RIGHT! EVERYONE! YOU. ME. THAT GUY OVER THERE! WE'RE ALL DUMB!

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Goftrey said:
The whole world's a mess to be honest. I'd rather live on this side of the world than in America though, that's for sure!
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Eh. It's not so bad over here. No one can afford healthcare, but we get Mexican food straight from the source.
 
petvas said:
This thread is of course political because what Tim Cook said shows how uneducated and ignorant Tim really is. He insulted a whole continent.
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I doubt that was his intention. And besides, outside of this forum no one else will care, or even know about this.
 
bsolar said:
That's if you evaluate it with today's standards, which is pretty unfair to say the least. It was still a pretty advanced society given the standards back then and surely a great contribution to the ideas which shaped the western world.
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That is implying that society is advancing and standards only grow higher with time passing by. To my knowledge that isn't true. Slave holding comes and goes and comes again and goes again.

From the "Cloud Atlas" movie review: „When you're young, it's possible to believe that evil can be vanquished. As you get older, you realize that evil never stops changing shapes and faces. In "Cloud Atlas", the monster can be beaten, but always comes back, but always can be beaten. There can never be a happy ending, but there can be a mature consolation that, in itself, has grandeur and is the opposite of despair.“

The Ancient Greeks already knew about the principle of the Herons Ball Steam Turbine. But since they had slaves to do the work for them, there was no need to develop steam engines and start the Industrial Revolution a couple of centuries earlier. Today we have chinese migrant workers fleeing from the country into the big cities, where they live and work without any citizen rights. Again we have put a halt on further developing robotics, because we have so many cheap hands available. Now for whom is this comparison unfair, past humans or present humans?
 
holydude said:
Are you insane ? Who have voted for Barroso ? Did slovakian citizens have a referendum about helping Greece ?
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Barroso was elected by the European Parliament which was elected and represents the EU citizens. Note that in the European Parliament there are 7 political groups (+1 Non-Inscrits), of which 2 groups have always been the most influential, so I fail to see the "1000000000 of political parties" you're talking about.

Slovakia joined the EU after a referendum which was approved by 93.7% of voters. Of course every country which enters the EU accepts to relinquish part of its sovereignity, that's what Slovakia decided to do. That's also the reason I don't want my country to join and the reason in my country in our referendum to join we voted no.
 
bsolar said:
Barroso was elected by the European Parliament which was elected and represents the EU citizens. Note that in the European Parliament there are 7 political groups (+1 Non-Inscrits), of which 2 groups have always been the most influential, so I fail to see the "1000000000 of political parties" you're talking about.

Slovakia joined the EU after a referendum which was approved by 93.7% of voters. Of course every country which enters the EU accepts to relinquish part of its sovereignity, that's what Slovakia decided to do. That's also the reason I don't want my country to join and the reason in my country in our referendum to join we voted no.
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I fail to see what Slovakia has to do with the Cook's statement.
 
Gudi said:
That is implying that society is advancing and standards only grow higher with time passing by. To my knowledge that isn't true.
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If you mean "monotonic advancement", I agree that it's not the case and there are many "setbacks", but consider your own post, in which you describe "modern slavery". You imply it being a bad thing. You should ask yourself why. The reason is that you have much higher standars than the standards of Ancient Greece, where slavery was considered perfectly normal and not a bad thing at all.
 
holydude said:
The problem is that European Union includes super rich and also super poor countries.

United States do not.
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Very sily remark. In America millions of people are extremely poor.

I'm very lucky to be be Dutch in this context, welfare, money from the state IF I would loose my job, all kinds of possibilities to get back on my feet IF I would loose everything. If you don't have the cash in America you basically have a huge problem. In many European states welfare is a basic human right, Obamacare is just started.

Yes, there are very poor people living in the EU, but don't pretend that all Americans have a good life, that's just silly.
 
The original idea of Android is definitely better than iOS. The only thing that takes Android down is a sea of OEM device manufacturers, they never bother to streamline the OS in any of their new products.

I have both iPhone 5S and a KDM Android phone that runs on Snapdragon 800. However I must admit that the KDM phone never run as smooth as iPhone 5S. Android never cares about proper apps, it just pushes manufacturers to produce a new "faster" phone every month.

Android itself isn't suck, but now it is forced to be suck.
 
Gudi said:
The Ancient Greeks already knew about the principle of the Herons Ball Steam Turbine. But since they had slaves to do the work for them, there was no need to develop steam engines and start the Industrial Revolution a couple of centuries earlier. Today we have chinese migrant workers fleeing from the country into the big cities, where they live and work without any citizen rights. Again we have put a halt on further developing robotics, because we have so many cheap hands available. Now for whom is this comparison unfair, past humans or present humans?
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I'll give ya a topic: The Holy Roman Empire was neither holy nor Roman nor an empire. Discuss.
 

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O men, this makes me feel so much a European!

Love the diversity, history, culture, freedom, food, languages and countries.

Love not everything polished, clean, uniform and politically correct...

But above all, love honesty and respect!

So Tim (and Victoria for that matter), thanks for your honesty, I know respect is expensive and hard to come by these days...
 
fermat-au said:
Those number are far from Meaningless. As you have explained in many parts of Europe the iPhone is so expensive, that Apple have priced themselves out of the market.

Yes many of those Androids are lower cost (100€-200€), but some would be higher end phones.

In Australia I see lots of Androids like the s4 and Nexus 4/5 that are not low end phones, but do cost less than the iPhone. Many people who could buy and iPhone are choosing an Android (Many are still choosing iPhone also).

The most interesting think about that data is not the absolute number, but the change Y/Y. Android gained in every part of the world surveyed.

Note: Portugal is not including in this data. They are not in the "EU5"
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It's not the iPhone that's expensive, it's us, we are poor.
 
I was thinking the same thing about the Russians.
They are bashing them for no reason just because Obama got bent over them holding Snowden.


Gudi said:
I'm jealous, you seam to be so young. :rolleyes:
Yes, it is stupid to blame a whole continent for what is wrong with Android. But honestly, that's not even the most idiotic thing I've heard today. Its the opening day of the Sotchi Olympics and every five seconds someone is saying something insane about Russia on TV.
Don't you people never watch the news? Not even The Daily Show! People are making uneducated and idiotic comments all the time. Some top U.S. diplomat for Europe just said: "**** the EU". And you wanna tell me, that "many things under one name" is the worst you've heard in years?
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Dissing the EU is quit stupid Cook. A man in danger for failling trying to hard? Nothing new from Apple since Jobs went to paradise.

EU is not like the US a bounch of states under a president.

Every country is still a sovereign and independent country.

Greetings from DK

So EU like Android ? Then Apple is North Korea?

Seems stupidity just got a new name. Tim Cook

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KPOM said:
??? The standard of living in the US is higher on average than in the EU. According to the UN we are #3. Norway is #1 and Australia is #2. Neither are in the EU, though Norway is in "Europe."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UN_Human_Development_Index

Australia and Norway are mineral-rich countries with relatively small populations. Similarly, North Dakota has the lowest unemployment rate in the US.

Anyway, Tim Coom wasn't disparaging the EU or Europe. He was saying that it is wrong to view Android a single monolithic entity, just as it is wrong to view Europe as a single monolithic entity. Both terms are convenient umbrellas for diverse collections of entities that share some traits in common but are as different as they are similar.
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The standard of living in the US is higher on average than in the EU. ???


Hahahahahahahahaha YOU WISH :-D Most funny phrase today.

We dont have people without healthinsurance or people forced to sleep in the street.

And we actually have the FREEDOM OF SPEECH ... Not like the US where everything gets censored.
 
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