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Ugh I was expecting March, not early 2015 now...

Out of interest if Early 2015 is not April but only Jan-Mar does that mean Mid 2015 is only Jun/Jul and Late 2015 is Nov/Dec - what do you designate Apr/May and Aug/Sep/Oct as? Early Mid 2015 and Late Mid 2015?

What if the product launches on 7 April vs 31 March? Is that so bad?
 
You do realize this watch will require more interaction than those other watches, right?

I think they meant they are not sure how well the digital crown will work, because it does require more interaction than traditional watches.

I mean, when I used to wear a wind-up watch, the only time I ever used the crown was when I took off the watch. I'd take off the watch to wind it, and same when I needed to adjust the time. So I've never tried to roll the crown while the watch was on my wrist. So yes, I do wonder how easy or comfortable it would be to roll the crown while wearing the watch.
 
I would assume that as the crown isn't moving any parts of a watch movement that the rotation of the crown will be much easier than winding a mechanical watch or changing the date. That will make it easier to roll/turn the crown whilst still on your wrist - I expect the tip of the finger to be sufficient.
 
Nah, there were enough rumors that at some point even in Apple's timeline a March launch was something they were shooting for. It may be technically within the window, but read between the lines. It is just a technicality.


Again, rumour. Not fact. Anyone can make up a rumour and it gets traction. The fact you treat them as fact, just renders any point you make based on them irrelevant. Hell, the main person for the source of the rumour has been wrong many times more than they were right.


Out of interest if Early 2015 is not April but only Jan-Mar does that mean Mid 2015 is only Jun/Jul and Late 2015 is Nov/Dec - what do you designate Apr/May and Aug/Sep/Oct as? Early Mid 2015 and Late Mid 2015?



What if the product launches on 7 April vs 31 March? Is that so bad?


Exactly. These people shouting that April is not early 2015, are they then saying its mid 2015? If they count April to October as mid 2015, then it's all very disproportionate...

The lack of common sense and logic from people in this thread is shocking. Either that, or they go to some sad lengths just to try and bitch about Apple.
 
Can't live without it? Really, Tim? No ... I mean REALLY? :rolleyes:

In the same way that people say they can't imagine living without the phone surely? These devices (from all manufacturers) become a ubiquitous part of our lives. I can't imagine a time before I had a real smart phone - easy to communicate, find information on the run, take pictures - both for the memores but also to make life easier when shopping for stuff - the list goes on - checking rain patterns before a kids outdoor party or before an open air concert.

The smart watch will be an extension of that for some people. For those who adopt a smart watch they will also reach a point when either it gets stuffed in a draw or it become a ubiquitous part of life - once Apple pay his Oz then it will be ubiquitous for me as a primary payment device.
 
Common sense called ... Asked to let you know this is bs.

Oh no it isn't.

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Yeah, I don't mind the 4-month window much. However why give such a time frame at all when you're certainly not going to launch it for the first 3 months & 3 weeks of that window anyway? Why just not say April-May 2015 or Late April or Early May?

This is exactly right, we all know it means late in the period.
 
Whether you agree with Apple's use of the world "early" for April or not, this is not the first time they've used this convention.

Last year on April 29th, Apple updated the MacBook Air, which is referred to as the Early 2014 model.

https://www.macrumors.com/2014/04/29/updated-macbook-airs-faster-haswell/
http://support.apple.com/manuals/#macbookair

I'm fine with an April ship date but I really wish they would release further pricing and release information and the rest of the specifications.
 
as someone who is very much into sleep tracking.

how the hell can I do this with this watch? Do I have to charge it in the afternoon and then again in the morning to be able to use it during the day and track my sleep at night?

To me, what's the point of offering sleep tracking if your battery life is between 4-19 hours? It's like offering sleep-mode on laptop if it only lasts 2 hours
 
as someone who is very much into sleep tracking.

how the hell can I do this with this watch? Do I have to charge it in the afternoon and then again in the morning to be able to use it during the day and track my sleep at night?

It's not ideal, but it could be doable, especially if it charges quickly. Which, given the size of the battery, is entirely possible. To have enough battery for sleep-tracking, I think I'd charge it in the evening, like maybe while I'm eating dinner / watching TV, then top it off in the morning while I'm taking a shower. Whether or not this would work? Be interesting to find out.
 
as someone who is very much into sleep tracking.

how the hell can I do this with this watch? Do I have to charge it in the afternoon and then again in the morning to be able to use it during the day and track my sleep at night?

To me, what's the point of offering sleep tracking if your battery life is between 4-19 hours? It's like offering sleep-mode on laptop if it only lasts 2 hours

It is 19h if you use it at the limit of its specification; 4h with the screen on. Sleep tracking uses very little power, probably uses a co-processor like the M8 that can do all that with very little power usage.

You will also notice that they have TWO WATCH SIZES. One will undoubtedly be much more than 19h, probably more like 30h of mixed usage.

As for charging, lets see; the current phones Iphone 6 battery of 1800 Mah takes 145 minutes from 0 to 100%. The smallest watch probably has a about 200-250 mah battery, charging at same speed as the Ipĥone 6 you'd get... about 16-21 minute for a full 0-100% charge... If they used something with similar amp as Ipad charger, they could do it in about 10 minutes. Though, heat constraints may limit this option. We'll see.

The Apple watch doesn't work in the shower, so unless shower+grooming is super-fast, you wouldn't have to do anything special to use the watch during sleep. Put watch to charge, take shower, brush teeth, etc... Put the watch back on and go to sleep.

There you go. Pretty sure you could have determined this yourself.
 
It is 19h if you use it at the limit of its specification; 4h with the screen on. Sleep tracking uses very little power, probably uses a co-processor like the M8 that can do all that with very little power usage.

You will also notice that they have TWO WATCH SIZES. One will undoubtedly be much more than 19h, probably more like 30h of mixed usage.

As for charging, lets see; the current phones Iphone 6 battery of 1800 Mah takes 145 minutes from 0 to 100%. The smallest watch probably has a about 200-250 mah battery, charging at same speed as the Ipĥone 6 you'd get... about 16-21 minute for a full 0-100% charge... If they used something with similar amp as Ipad charger, they could do it in about 10 minutes. Though, heat constraints may limit this option. We'll see.

The Apple watch doesn't work in the shower, so unless shower+grooming is super-fast, you wouldn't have to do anything special to use the watch during sleep. Put watch to charge, take shower, brush teeth, etc... Put the watch back on and go to sleep.

There you go. Pretty sure you could have determined this yourself.

LOL at the suggestion it would charge the same speed as iPhone 6 with full charged in 20 minutes.

that's one of my other complains. I wore my Fuelband everywhere I go, including shower. (I've wore my Seiko watch in the shower or even to the beach/swim) before. a watch that is not waterproof bugs me to no end.
 
Again, rumour. Not fact. Anyone can make up a rumour and it gets traction. The fact you treat them as fact, just renders any point you make based on them irrelevant. Hell, the main person for the source of the rumour has been wrong many times more than they were right.


Exactly. These people shouting that April is not early 2015, are they then saying its mid 2015? If they count April to October as mid 2015, then it's all very disproportionate...

The lack of common sense and logic from people in this thread is shocking. Either that, or they go to some sad lengths just to try and bitch about Apple.

Look unless I actually had access to the highest level of Apple's product timeline, I wouldn't know if this launch date of April 2015 is meeting or lagging their expectations. So I'm doing conjecture. But my conjecture is that Apple wanted this product to launch by March 2015 and that at some point fairly recently they thought it would. If your read is that Apple always wanted and expected an April launch that is fine. But if you are basing this on a belief that Apple can perfectly launch a cutting edge product in a brand new market and that they can predict their ability to go from selling zero product to having millions available and that they can predict the date that they can do that to the month but do that six months away, and that they can do that the vast majority of the times, then I think you over estimate this company.

I think the launch slipped a month. If in October 2014 they were planning on launching the iWatch in April 2015, then I'm wrong. But I think they thought they were farther along at that point. I think if you had asked Cook in October 2014 when if the Apple Watch would have been launched before April 2015 he would have said yes (setting aside that he would not have told you anything).
 
It will be a success because it is an Apple product. Look at all of the people here who are going to buy one site unseen. It's new, it's Apple, it will be like feeding time for sharks.

And it will be bought by people that already own an Apple product, probably they are too stupid to evaluate their own product or how does this work? :D
 
And it will be bought by people that already own an Apple product, probably they are too stupid to evaluate their own product or how does this work? :D

Some will buy it just because Apple makes it. I wouldn't necessarily say they are stupid.
 
Some will buy it just because Apple makes it. I wouldn't necessarily say they are stupid.

People buy Moto 360 because of brand name. Android has a wider distribution than Apple.

People buy Kleenex because of brand name.

So really once more you reduce your argumentation to "people do things" without any evaluation or anything, thanks for your "observation" :) .
 
People buy Moto 360 because of brand name. Android has a wider distribution than Apple.

People buy Kleenex because of brand name.

So really once more you reduce your argumentation to "people do things" without any evaluation or anything, thanks for your "observation" :) .

And thanks for yours.
 
Tim Cook: Apple Watch on Schedule to Ship in April

Do you think April is final? It has to be Fridays?


It could be final, we won't know until the event they'll do to show it off again and announce release date. Friday's is being said, as that's the usual day they release. It doesn't have to be, but they usually go for it.

No one will know absolutely, we can only go based on history.
 
as someone who is very much into sleep tracking.

how the hell can I do this with this watch? Do I have to charge it in the afternoon and then again in the morning to be able to use it during the day and track my sleep at night?

To me, what's the point of offering sleep tracking if your battery life is between 4-19 hours? It's like offering sleep-mode on laptop if it only lasts 2 hours

Really? When you get up you don't know how was your sleep? You need a device for that?
 
I think the Stainless Steel will range from $499-$999 based on the band. I wouldn't be shocked if the high end stainless steel cracks $1000, though.

$4K or $5K for the gold model is in line with John Gruber's estimates.

Still wonder who would buy a $5k. Yes, there are luxury watches much more expensive than this. But that $30,000 Rolex will last for a human lifetime. The Apple watch will be rediculously outdated within a few years. Will it even be compatible with a 2020 iPhone? Who will be able to replace its dying battery? How many years until developers are forced to update to an SDK version that does not support first gen devices anymore?

Christian
 
Tim Cook: Apple Watch on Schedule to Ship in April

The sad part is, it will be sold out in the first couple of hours and the eBay and CL resellers will drive up the prices like the iPhone 6. No reason a company making tens of billions can't increase their manufacturing capacity to supply the product demand.
 
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