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Not really. He was a horrible boss to work for, but a rockstar and visionary. No dissonance there.
No dissonance with Cook either. He is as much to be admired as Jobs.
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Yep. He inherited a rocket mid-flight. Jobs had already done all the groundwork since the late 90s, created a veritable cult around it, and Cook grew it into a clinically uninspired empire. This Fortune article from 2012 was a chilling foresight into the stale corporate MBA farm Apple was about to turn into.

And yea, he's got the charisma and wit of a frayed lightning cable.
And yet, by all credible sources Apple is doing magnificently.
 
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Let’s see if Apple fades slowly into obvilion then.:confused:

They already have, once. You’d think they’d be a little more concerned about sliding back again. Ask Nokia and Blackberry Rim how long it takes to fall from the top. Just a few years...
 
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And has already been shown, Tim Cook thankfully is continuing that trend. Customers, mgmt and shareholders are happy on his Watch. Pun intended.
Tim was referring to innovation when he spoke about that.

Steve Jobs- iPad, iPhone, Mac, iPod
Tim Cook (7 years since Jobs death)- Apple Watch (which Jobs reportedly already had wind of)

"Think differently"
 
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Tim was referring to innovation when he spoke about that.

Steve Jobs- iPad, iPhone, Mac, iPod
Tim Cook (7 years since Jobs death)- Apple Watch (which Jobs reportedly already had wind of)

"Think differently"
So, the watch has been the only thing that Apple has done since Tim Cook became ceo? If Cook didn’t do anything new, neither did Jobs.
 
Cook’s advice to the Graduates should be:

1. Take over the CEO job just after your predecesor has done all the hard work.
2. Do nothing but fly around the world hobnobbing with the great and good.
3. Waste billions of dollars on stock buybacks to artificially inflate the share price.
4. Watch as your stock options and corresponding personal wealth sore.
 
Forstall's perfectionism was on par with Jobs', checking UI under a loupe and whatnot, and he made much more sense as a successor compared to miserly bean counter Cook.
Scott Forstall? Perfectionism? Did you use Apple Maps in 2012?! Plus, iOS 6’s UI was a hideous, inconsistent, disheveled mess.

Anyway, nothing that Steve “Second Coming of Jesus Christ Himself” Jobs wanted to do from iPod on was possible without the supply chain that Tim Cook built. This is an irrefutable fact.

Botched launch of Maps you say? Who's taken the fall or any basic responsibility for the fugly iOS 10, insultingly botched iOS 11, recurrent macOS security issues, throttled phone PR mess, or the new class action lawsuit targeting the scandalously ill-conceived MacBook (Pro) keyboards? Who is to blame for the inexcusable dud that is Siri?
Yes, the botched launch of Maps, something that has taken years to even begin to resolve. Apple Maps is now competitive with Google Maps whereas when it launched it was an utter embarrassment. Scott Forstall needed to apologize, and I’m sorry because you’re clearly upset that I won’t give into his blame-shifting (for which he certainly had a reputation). His head deserved to roll, and dare I say that Steve Jobs would never have allowed Maps to ship as it did in 2012.

As for iOS 10, “fugly” is an opinion and won’t be addressed in the context of blaming someone. Don’t like it? Don’t use it. Switch to Android. Apple’s not changing course on this design language for at least a couple more years, and even then I don’t see it shifting much. Lord knows if and when they do it won’t be to your liking and you’ll keep whining.

“Insultingly botched” iOS 11? As if iOS lacked its fair share of major bugs before Forstall left? As if Steve Jobs himself personally fixed every macOS security vulnerability? Dude, you’re kidding yourself.

And if you want to blame Craig Federighi, you’ll just have to cope with the fact that he was hired under Steve “Dig Him Up” Jobs…twice. First at NeXT (through which he moved to Apple), then again at Apple in 2009. (Jobs was under medical leave some of that year, but I find it highly unlikely that he wouldn’t have been involved in selecting the successor to Bertrand Serlet in leading macOS development.)

You’ll also have to cope with the fact that even if it was Cook who hired Federighi with no oversight from Jobs, guess what? Steve Jobs fully supported Cook as his successor.

Battery and butterfly keyboard stuff would almost definitely have happened under Jobs, too.

Siri’s a mess because of infighting in middle management and a lack of initiative from Eddy Cue, who is excellent with content deals and not so much with Internet services which is why they’ve now mostly been divvied up amongst Phil Schiller and Craig Federighi. Now that it’s under Federighi and Apple’s done some big hires seemingly aimed at Siri development, we’ll see if that ship gets righted. My inclination is that it will, but it’ll take a little time.

(Steve Jobs kept and elevated Eddy Cue, too. Take that for what it’s worth.)

Most probably Forstall was scapegoated at a pivotal time for the company.
Rightfully blamed for his stubbornness and the resulting failure that was Apple Maps and a badly stagnating iOS design language, and a pivotal time that kicked off Apple’s growth into one of the largest, most ubiquitous, and most successful companies in history…and growth that shows no signs of slowing as Apple prepares to move beyond the iPhone in the next few years.

Apple’s doing just fine and will continue to do so with or without you, and this forum likely will do just fine with or without you too because it appears you’re suspended at this time.
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3. Waste billions of dollars on stock buybacks to artificially inflate the share price.
Are they artificially inflating the market cap too?
 
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Scott Forstall? Perfectionism? Did you use Apple Maps in 2012?! Plus, iOS 6’s UI was a hideous, inconsistent, disheveled mess.

Anyway, nothing that Steve “Second Coming of Jesus Christ Himself” Jobs wanted to do from iPod on was possible without the supply chain that Tim Cook built. This is an irrefutable fact.


Yes, the botched launch of Maps, something that has taken years to even begin to resolve. Apple Maps is now competitive with Google Maps whereas when it launched it was an utter embarrassment. Scott Forstall needed to apologize, and I’m sorry because you’re clearly upset that I won’t give into his blame-shifting (for which he certainly had a reputation). His head deserved to roll, and dare I say that Steve Jobs would never have allowed Maps to ship as it did in 2012.

As for iOS 10, “fugly” is an opinion and won’t be addressed in the context of blaming someone. Don’t like it? Don’t use it. Switch to Android. Apple’s not changing course on this design language for at least a couple more years, and even then I don’t see it shifting much. Lord knows if and when they do it won’t be to your liking and you’ll keep whining.

“Insultingly botched” iOS 11? As if iOS lacked its fair share of major bugs before Forstall left? As if Steve Jobs himself personally fixed every macOS security vulnerability? Dude, you’re kidding yourself.

And if you want to blame Craig Federighi, you’ll just have to cope with the fact that he was hired under Steve “Dig Him Up” Jobs…twice. First at NeXT (through which he moved to Apple), then again at Apple in 2009. (Jobs was under medical leave some of that year, but I find it highly unlikely that he wouldn’t have been involved in selecting the successor to Bertrand Serlet in leading macOS development.)

You’ll also have to cope with the fact that even if it was Cook who hired Federighi with no oversight from Jobs, guess what? Steve Jobs fully supported Cook as his successor.

Battery and butterfly keyboard stuff would almost definitely have happened under Jobs, too.

Siri’s a mess because of infighting in middle management and a lack of initiative from Eddy Cue, who is excellent with content deals and not so much with Internet services which is why they’ve now mostly been divvied up amongst Phil Schiller and Craig Federighi. Now that it’s under Federighi and Apple’s done some big hires seemingly aimed at Siri development, we’ll see if that ship gets righted. My inclination is that it will, but it’ll take a little time.

(Steve Jobs kept and elevated Eddy Cue, too. Take that for what it’s worth.)


Rightfully blamed for his stubbornness and the resulting failure that was Apple Maps and a badly stagnating iOS design language, and a pivotal time that kicked off Apple’s growth into one of the largest, most ubiquitous, and most successful companies in history…and growth that shows no signs of slowing as Apple prepares to move beyond the iPhone in the next few years.

Apple’s doing just fine and will continue to do so with or without you, and this forum likely will do just fine with or without you too because it appears you’re suspended at this time.
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Are they artificially inflating the market cap too?

And lets not forget Siri, which was overseen by Scott Forstall, and his responsibility.
 
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So, the watch has been the only thing that Apple has done since Tim Cook became ceo? If Cook didn’t do anything new, neither did Jobs.
Yes.Visit apple.com and look at the product banner. 3/4 is all down to Jobs.

No Steve= No iPhone= No cash cow for Tim.
 
Come on guys. Give Tim a break. I’m sure the students were thrilled to see him at their commencement. You may disagree with the direction Apple is heading and their design choices but Tim Cook is an excellent manager and businessman.

Yes Tim is a good manager and businessman.
Conversely, Steve was not a good businessman but he was smart enough to know it, so he hired others to do the "boring stuff". This allowed him to truly think different (both his hits and misses).
 
The Mac Mini is meant to be the cheapest and least powerful of all the desktop Macs, only to be used by consumers who wants a Mac, do not want to use a lot of money and have no complex requirements.
Tell that to the 2012 Mac Mini.

So you are saying that one of the best Macs to ever be made, was a mistake?
 
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So let me get this straight. Cook goes to speak at a major university and brings with him, a grammatically incorrect phrase?
 
Aah....little Timmy Cook....the guy who will go down in history as the worst Apple CEO ever.

But he's probably the richest one! Having transitioned Apple the way they transformed GE...from a product company to a service company to a company with nothing left but to cook the books and buy back their own stock to keep it afloat. Otherwise why would anyone stick around? There's nothing to do. Well, except make new watch bands.
 
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Christ the amount of negativity in here. The guy is more successful than everyone in this forum put together. I’d like to see what you have contributed to the world?

If “success” is measured by “profits” then “YES” Tim is successful if that is THE ONLY GOAL, which looks like Apple’s business model now a days. That will not be disputed.
 
Tim:
  • iPhone X
  • iPhone 8(red)
  • Apple Pencil
  • iPad 9.7
  • Apple Watch
  • HomePod
  • AirPod
  • MacBook Pro with Touch bar
Okay my fingers got tired typing but you get the drift.
These are products under the product lines Steve invented. None of the products you listed are as revolutionary as the original iPhone back in 2007.

iPhone X is just jumping on the bezelless bandwagon Android was on for over a year.
iPhone 8 is just a spec upgraded iPhone 7.
Apple Pencil is just a new take on the Surface Pen and Note Pencil.
iPad 9.7 is actually worse than the iPad Air 2 from 2014 in some respects and again the productlone itself was invented by Steve.

Homepod is a massive failure compared to the Echo and Google home. Despite owning an iPhone and iPad, I still went for the Echo because Siri is just that bad. Siri was the first on the scene but is now dead last when compared to Google Assistant. It would really be nice if Tim decides to think different on Siri after taking a look at Google Assistant which wipes the floor with Siri.
What's comical is that Google Assistant on iPhone is able to turn on the flashlight while Siri is unable to do so.

I bought the Airpods and I do like them but how aare they revolutionary in any way? My wired Bose headphones have better sound quality. Airpods are good for convenience in pairing but they are trumped by wired headphones in many aspects


Whats revolutionary about the MacBook Pro? Its just another run of the mill laptop
 
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Cook’s advice to the Graduates should be:

1. Take over the CEO job just after your predecesor has done all the hard work.
2. Do nothing but fly around the world hobnobbing with the great and good.
3. Waste billions of dollars on stock buybacks to artificially inflate the share price.
4. Watch as your stock options and corresponding personal wealth sore.

Also remember to look at what the competition is doing and rip it off and charge a $300 premium for the same rehashed ****
 
They had their chance with Scott Forstall and the bean counter fired him as he saw him as a threat

Like SJ he was a pain in the doodah to work with but like SJ he had style , taste and vision

3 things you could never accuse timbo of
 
These are products under the product lines Steve invented. None of the products you listed are as revolutionary as the original iPhone back in 2007.

iPhone X is just jumping on the bezelless bandwagon Android was on for over a year.
iPhone 8 is just a spec upgraded iPhone 7.
Apple Pencil is just a new take on the Surface Pen and Note Pencil.
iPad 9.7 is actually worse than the iPad Air 2 from 2014 in some respects and again the productlone itself was invented by Steve.

Homepod is a massive failure compared to the Echo and Google home. Despite owning an iPhone and iPad, I still went for the Echo because Siri is just that bad. Siri was the first on the scene but is now dead last when compared to Google Assistant. It would really be nice if Tim decides to think different on Siri after taking a look at Google Assistant which wipes the floor with Siri.
What's comical is that Google Assistant on iPhone is able to turn on the flashlight while Siri is unable to do so.

I bought the Airpods and I do like them but how aare they revolutionary in any way? My wired Bose headphones have better sound quality. Airpods are good for convenience in pairing but they are trumped by wired headphones in many aspects


Whats revolutionary about the MacBook Pro? Its just another run of the mill laptop
Seems like this is a very familiar conversation. Here is the counter:
- All the products listed are Tim Cooks inventions
- I trust Apples view of their products more than some random internet poster.
- Neither Microsoft, Apple nor Samsung invented the stylus. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stylus_(computing) AT least 60 years old.
- OLED was invented/patented by Kodak in 1987. Apple jumping on that bandwagon is the same bandwagon copying Kodak. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OLED
- Apple copied the the first tablet from Fujitsu. Microsoft had one a decade prior to Apple. http://www.businessinsider.com/here...w-badly-microsoft-blew-it-with-tablets-2013-5 I have no problems with Tim Cook continuing to copy what Jobs copied.
- If apple says Homepod is a success, it is.
- What's comical is that who know what Google is doing with your information. I trust apple far more. But I don't use either assistant. So I will recuse myself from this reply.
- Your view of airpods, is not the majority of posters opinions, at least on MacRumors. But you are correct, at least is my opinion, B/T headsets is slightly below wired in terms of quality, but that gap is closing fast. But good luck at the gym with your Bose.

We are all entitled to our opinions. Eh?
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Also remember to look at what the competition is doing and rip it off and charge a $300 premium for the same rehashed ****
Apple does have a successful formula. Makes me sad I got rid of my Apple stock too early. But oh well.

Bottom line. Great job Tim. Keep it up. You are exactly what apple needs at this point in time.
 
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